called this a.m. to find out about a new Sub program here. Its $139.00/wk.!! Is this the going rate or is this expensive for this drug? They also say that there is a 4 month minimum for the program....this is all new to me. Im very dissapointed about this b/c I was hopeful that I could do this quickly. I don't have the $$ (I get my prescriptions thru a program thru the pharmacutical co.) I don't have insurance...IM SCREWED!! Its sad, but I almost feel like I have no choice but to stay on the scripts......I seen this guy on Intervention last night (TV show on A&E) that went to detox for a couple of months for alcohol....as soon as he was discharged he went directly over to get a bottle! I was so mad! If they'd offer me free detox (it probably cost in excess of $20,000) I'd go in a heartbeat! and he just --ssed it away....It makes me sick..............
Lost.....
Hi Lost --4 month minimum? Sounds like B.S
Check this site out--you should be able to locate a legit doctor. Price of drug depends on your insurance. If you have no insurance the pills are quite expensive. Walmart or costco is thecheapest game in town if you have no insurance.
Good Luck--Jeff
http://www.buprenorphine.samhsa.gov/about.html
I agree with Jeff, a 4 month minimum sounds fishy.Especially at that rate.
Redd
Jeff
Stay on what scripts? Don't use this as an excuse to go backwards. Maybe it's God's way of doing for you what you could not do for yourself. Don't panic. Search out alternatives. Ask you HP for help.
Stay on what scripts? Don't use this as an excuse to go backwards. Maybe it's God's way of doing for you what you could not do for yourself. Don't panic. Search out alternatives. Ask you HP for help.
12 Stepper??????????????????????????
What?
Jeff
Stay on what scripts? Don't use this as an excuse to go backwards. Maybe it's God's way of doing for you what you could not do for yourself. Don't panic. Search out alternatives. Ask you HP for help.
????????????????
Jeff
Stay on what scripts? Don't use this as an excuse to go backwards. Maybe it's God's way of doing for you what you could not do for yourself. Don't panic. Search out alternatives. Ask you HP for help.
????????????????
Jeff
I thought you said you were having trouble getting sub? Maybe I read it wrong. No electricity is making me very blonde lately. If that's not what you were saying....never mind <g>
jeff,
about the intervention guy, he obviously didnt want his recovery that bad, no need to get angry, we just pray for the sick and still suffering, who are we to judge?
ps. those shows are a mockery in my opinion, of course the addict feels pressured on national tv.
terrianne
about the intervention guy, he obviously didnt want his recovery that bad, no need to get angry, we just pray for the sick and still suffering, who are we to judge?
ps. those shows are a mockery in my opinion, of course the addict feels pressured on national tv.
terrianne
Sorry I copied Lost in Indy and replied. its a bit close so its confusing.
Jeff
Hi Terrianne
I do not watch those shows. I watched one and did not get anything out of it.
How are you doing today?
Things here are so f-ed up. But I am doing good. Slept 8 straigh hours last night. First time since ???????????
I think I may be on to something.
Jeff
Hi Terrianne
I do not watch those shows. I watched one and did not get anything out of it.
How are you doing today?
Things here are so f-ed up. But I am doing good. Slept 8 straigh hours last night. First time since ???????????
I think I may be on to something.
jeff,
i am doing fantabulous thanks for asking, thats so awesome you got sleep, it helps with mood and just over all body, mind and spirit, i hope this will be a pattern for you :) let me know how the meds are working for you.
terrianne
i am doing fantabulous thanks for asking, thats so awesome you got sleep, it helps with mood and just over all body, mind and spirit, i hope this will be a pattern for you :) let me know how the meds are working for you.
terrianne
Good to here that terrianne. I certainly will let you know how the meds work. I start on 60 mg of cymbalta tonight. 200 of serequel a bit foggy but I feel like my brain has slowed down a bit. Not as anxious. Kinda nice.
Coming up on 180 days as I did have a few drinks which killed my sobrierty date and besides the suboxene it has been june 2004 last snort of an OXY.
Terrianne today is the best I have felt in 5 years.
Have a good day Terrianne--Jeff
Coming up on 180 days as I did have a few drinks which killed my sobrierty date and besides the suboxene it has been june 2004 last snort of an OXY.
Terrianne today is the best I have felt in 5 years.
Have a good day Terrianne--Jeff
So glad to hear you're getting some sleep Jeff....nothing worse than being sleep deprived.
Redd
jeff,
dont sweat the drinks buddy, from sounds of it you didnt get plastered, that didnt take away from your sobriety of your drug of choice in my opinion. but thats just me.
hey sounds likecymbalta is working!!!! thats how it worked for me :) don't dig to far into it and annalyse it just enjoy your happy life. thats what i do.
terrianne
dont sweat the drinks buddy, from sounds of it you didnt get plastered, that didnt take away from your sobriety of your drug of choice in my opinion. but thats just me.
hey sounds likecymbalta is working!!!! thats how it worked for me :) don't dig to far into it and annalyse it just enjoy your happy life. thats what i do.
terrianne
Try calling a few more places. I was on sub for a while (now totally pill free, thankgoodness) and when I called around a few doctors had expensive programs like you describe but I was able to find a doc which just charged for a normal office visit. It's still a little money but it's well worth it and in the LONG run it's a lot cheaper than staying on your d.o.c. believe me. In fact, even if you paid for one of the more expensive programs you'd still save money in the long run.
Sometimes people use the money excuse to delay their recovery but I don't think that's being honest with yourself. I know many people don't have much money but it's much better to sell your TV, turn down the heat, ride a bike to the store, or eat Top Ramen for dinner and use the money you save to get clean. It really is worth the sacrifice. Anyway, all the best to you I hope you're able to get past your addiction, and hey, CT is not fun but it's FREE.
Sometimes people use the money excuse to delay their recovery but I don't think that's being honest with yourself. I know many people don't have much money but it's much better to sell your TV, turn down the heat, ride a bike to the store, or eat Top Ramen for dinner and use the money you save to get clean. It really is worth the sacrifice. Anyway, all the best to you I hope you're able to get past your addiction, and hey, CT is not fun but it's FREE.
Terrianne this statement concerns only for me. I have no desire to pick up chips again. I have gone back to the meetings as it helps me mentally.
Because I did have a drink on my last date (SAD) may 7th its a new birthday.
I also no how important 90 days 6 months 9 months chips are. Not for me. I live one day at a time. I did the one yr at smithers spoke in front of a whole group of people. Got totally involved in AA sponsored 2 people one is my best friends 12 + yrs clean and Sober--he keeps me going. He is my Idol. Awesome Man. We ran together from 7 yr old on a baseball field through the age of 26 with drugs and all the good stuff it brought. I went in first and begged him to follow. He came 3 rs later.
I am telling you this to make it clear hOW IMPORTANT AA is to recovery IMO.
But also its not a life sentence. And I also no many people who just stopped and now use occasionally. God bless them.
And there are people who get sober without AA. I believe a newcomer should do a 90-90 and get involved for awhile. Things will fall into place IMO.
I will die if I use again. I really believe that. I have 2 daughters to live for and most important I owe it to myself to live. God put me here for a reason.
Now if i could just find myself a nice redhead?
Take Care --Jeff
Because I did have a drink on my last date (SAD) may 7th its a new birthday.
I also no how important 90 days 6 months 9 months chips are. Not for me. I live one day at a time. I did the one yr at smithers spoke in front of a whole group of people. Got totally involved in AA sponsored 2 people one is my best friends 12 + yrs clean and Sober--he keeps me going. He is my Idol. Awesome Man. We ran together from 7 yr old on a baseball field through the age of 26 with drugs and all the good stuff it brought. I went in first and begged him to follow. He came 3 rs later.
I am telling you this to make it clear hOW IMPORTANT AA is to recovery IMO.
But also its not a life sentence. And I also no many people who just stopped and now use occasionally. God bless them.
And there are people who get sober without AA. I believe a newcomer should do a 90-90 and get involved for awhile. Things will fall into place IMO.
I will die if I use again. I really believe that. I have 2 daughters to live for and most important I owe it to myself to live. God put me here for a reason.
Now if i could just find myself a nice redhead?
Take Care --Jeff
jeff,
i am extremely proud of you that you found what works for you, no judgement here buddy, you sound like your doing great and thats what is important.
for me god and church is my program, i follow the same basic principles as the 12 steps as well as the 10 commandments, golden rule and my big book is the bible. if i stop working my program and what works for me then yes of coures i am treading through dangerous waters, same basic concept.
my only problem is sometimes when the 12 stepps and a/a n/a is shared it is shared with a scare tactic/sarcasm/tough love but wrong tough love in my opinion. but hey thats on me. i try to work on my faults, i know i am not perfect. as everyone else i want to share in my sucssess but numerous times have been told by the sarcastic scare tactic people i was full of beans hahaha but that doesnt matter anymore i am secure in my recovery.
whoeverereads and takes away something posative what i have shared thats all that matters, even if its one person, i have several people who email me supporting my way and share in my beliefs. so obviously there is something to it. the people who i email with used to come to this board but no longer feel a need to frustrate themselves.
thats all. and for the record i do respect you and all aspects of recovery.
terrianne
i am extremely proud of you that you found what works for you, no judgement here buddy, you sound like your doing great and thats what is important.
for me god and church is my program, i follow the same basic principles as the 12 steps as well as the 10 commandments, golden rule and my big book is the bible. if i stop working my program and what works for me then yes of coures i am treading through dangerous waters, same basic concept.
my only problem is sometimes when the 12 stepps and a/a n/a is shared it is shared with a scare tactic/sarcasm/tough love but wrong tough love in my opinion. but hey thats on me. i try to work on my faults, i know i am not perfect. as everyone else i want to share in my sucssess but numerous times have been told by the sarcastic scare tactic people i was full of beans hahaha but that doesnt matter anymore i am secure in my recovery.
whoeverereads and takes away something posative what i have shared thats all that matters, even if its one person, i have several people who email me supporting my way and share in my beliefs. so obviously there is something to it. the people who i email with used to come to this board but no longer feel a need to frustrate themselves.
thats all. and for the record i do respect you and all aspects of recovery.
terrianne
Thanks Terrianne:
I just want some happiness. To make that happen you must work hard. All my diseases are tough but mentally I must be tougher.
Man I have days that I just want to crawl up into a little ball. Somehow I get up and take a shower and got to work.
But its amazing how all of a sudden litttle things that drove me nuts no longer do.
I can drive 15 minutes without road rage. I am New yorker at heart.
Terrianne i have read so many of these threads especially Cocaine. Its my DOC.
It really helps this board. I am grateful for all the people on it.
Jeff
I just want some happiness. To make that happen you must work hard. All my diseases are tough but mentally I must be tougher.
Man I have days that I just want to crawl up into a little ball. Somehow I get up and take a shower and got to work.
But its amazing how all of a sudden litttle things that drove me nuts no longer do.
I can drive 15 minutes without road rage. I am New yorker at heart.
Terrianne i have read so many of these threads especially Cocaine. Its my DOC.
It really helps this board. I am grateful for all the people on it.
Jeff
hey jeff,
it's mind over matter and we all have the power within us, just believe in yourself, i will send out some prayers for you, i just know you will start feeling better soon on your new meds, sounds like you already are, just remember one day at a time and focus on the good things : ) i am here anytime. i have confidence in you. now muster up some for yourself.
terrianne
it's mind over matter and we all have the power within us, just believe in yourself, i will send out some prayers for you, i just know you will start feeling better soon on your new meds, sounds like you already are, just remember one day at a time and focus on the good things : ) i am here anytime. i have confidence in you. now muster up some for yourself.
terrianne
Thanks Terrianne:
Things here are wild. Major thunderstorms. People are totally screwed.
Florida is taking a pounding. With lightning it slows down recovery of electric.
The rain? many people will have more damage to there homes.
Man I am Lucky.
Hang in there all floridians.
Jeff
Things here are wild. Major thunderstorms. People are totally screwed.
Florida is taking a pounding. With lightning it slows down recovery of electric.
The rain? many people will have more damage to there homes.
Man I am Lucky.
Hang in there all floridians.
Jeff
jeff,
i love a good thunder boomer, but if i was in fla it might be another story with all the devastation. i do feel for you. i promise you i am praying. you take care of yourself and try and make the best of the situation, like pretend your camping : ) i LOVE to camp, especially rustic camp. if i had to choose a perfect vacation, it would be the upper penninsula michigan ( i live in mich) but there is no place like it. i'll take it over the tropics anyday, no matter what season, me and the outdoors : ) i wanna take a survivalist vacation sooooooooo bad and a storm chasing vacation ( i know i am a nut hehehe)
terrianne
i love a good thunder boomer, but if i was in fla it might be another story with all the devastation. i do feel for you. i promise you i am praying. you take care of yourself and try and make the best of the situation, like pretend your camping : ) i LOVE to camp, especially rustic camp. if i had to choose a perfect vacation, it would be the upper penninsula michigan ( i live in mich) but there is no place like it. i'll take it over the tropics anyday, no matter what season, me and the outdoors : ) i wanna take a survivalist vacation sooooooooo bad and a storm chasing vacation ( i know i am a nut hehehe)
terrianne
