Michael Jackson Dies--

Jeff-He wasn't a convicted pedophile and to make presumptions like that is what feeds so much hate.He probably made some bad judgements having kids stay over but I never believed there was anything nefarious involved.

Who cares if you liked him or not? He was a talented singer and grew up in a horific home.I actually think he just loved children and that got him into trouble from some greedy people looking to exploit that angle.

He also was a drug addict just like you.I think once the autopsy is done we will find the same senario we did with Anna Nicole Smith.

Farrah Fawcet was awesome and she fought to the end.Also to clear something else up.Ryan O'Neil and his son were busted for having a meth lab.
A father helping his son to make meth.Lovely!
Tim I realized and put alleged pedophile.

Yes he in all probability is an addict. But Tim sorry if I take issue with this person lead to hate? yea I hate adults who manipulate kids ruin there lives by using there power and influence. These kids are destroyed for life why Mikee went right on doing his thing.


And the parents of the alleged kids touched by M.J are like ? not let my kid sleepover there Idol? Tim he was a sick puppy who could out sing and dance anybody in the world. His creativity and music/dance will never be equalled. But the rest of this guy is pure evil.

He settled and gave millions and millions of$$ to keep the families quiet? Guilt?

We all have an opinion.
Evil?.........You need to check yourself.You're judgemental as s***.
I checked myself Tim . I am good.

Judgemental? I guess I am being VERY judgemental.

All that money he gave to the parents of the kids so they would not file any charges against alleged pedophile felony charges --destroying his career that money should have been set up in trust for his kids.

Maybe he does have a trust that cant be touched and I will be the first to say he took care of his children but what there saying is he is in so much debt?

Enjoy your day Tim

Jeff
I did not know that Ryan was building a lab with his son? At least some quality time between the two.

I thought his son was in Jail for drug use and missed his mom passing? If Ryan Oneal was caught building a lab why has he been out of jail?

Is he out on Bail?

Jeff

P.S the only legit Jackson who is hurting is Jermaine as there goes his meal ticket.

Where is Janet Jackson? She is a heck of a talent.

Jeff, the fact doesn't change that a man is dead at a too-young age and I am sure there are many people in his personal life who loved him and are grieving tremendously.

With such a recent loss myself, I feel tremendously sorry for those closest to him...especially his children. They don't get to have their Dad in their lives for 40 or 50 years like many of us do. It would be hard enough losing a parent as an adult. I can't imagine how heartbroken and scared they must be.

It is not up to me to judge him and his actions. He is facing the ultimate judgment now.

God rest his soul.
It was all over the news a couple months back.I think he got out on some technicality.I'll google it and see if I can get more info.
Actor Ryan O'Neal, Son Arrested for Suspicion of Meth Possession
Wednesday September 17, 2008

February 26, 2008
Splash News CelebNews@Usmagazine.com! - Actor Ryan O'Neal, Son Arrested for Suspicion of Meth Possession ShareThisActor Ryan O'Neal and his son Redmond were arrested on suspicion of meth possession at the star's home in Malibu Wednesday, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Authorities found Redmond, 24, in possession of the drug while a vial was discovered in Ryan's bedroom, Los Angeles County Sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore told the paper.

Ryan, 67, and Redmond were released from the Malibu/Lost Hills sheriff's station Wednesday morning. Bail had been set at $10,000.

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The police search was related to Redmond's probation. He was arrested last year in Malibu on charges related to possession of heroin and meth while driving under the influence. As part of his plea, he was sentenced to three years of probation and charged $1,688 for the DUI.

Ryan, who was nominated for an Academy Award for his starring role in 1970's Love Story, was also arrested last year on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon and negligent discharge of a firearm during an argument with another son, Griffin. The actor claimed he only fired a warning shot.

Redmond's mother is actress Farrah Fawcett.

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Poor Michael. He was too young to die. I feel for his kids.
Poor Farrah, so much needless suffering.
Ed lived a full life so I don't feel as bad for him as I do the others. I do feel bad but.. ah, never mind, you know what I'm trying to say.

Jeff, sometimes you just leave me speechless.
Jeff, sometimes you just leave me speechless.

not me.


"Remember what is unbecoming to do is also unbecoming to speak of" - Socrates
I have always said I didn't think MJ in his brain thought anything was wrong with having a sleep over with kids. The man was not stupid. He never had what most of us had, a childhood. Hence his Neverland compound.

Jeff just because someone pays someone off doesnt mean guilty, has huge as he was he just wanted it to go away. Him having kids over for sleepovers, and wanting to be out of the public eye with molestation allegations. Meaning, I see the other side of what most don't think about, just so damn quick to judge.

You only see the negative side of folks, no open mindedness what so ever.

I used to think how odd to cover his children in public, but now I see why he did it, listening to his best friend this morning. The kids can go out in public without getting noticed. I wouldn't know what any of the 3 looked like, so his plan worked.

I was a MJ fan meaning I did buy his 'records' back in the day, because his songs were so uplifting, I would listen and still do occasionally going to work to get me in a better 'UP' frame of mind. Great dance tunes.
I'm enjoying the music today, lots of memories from many, many years back...

He changed music as only a few have done. I prayed for him this morning that he finally is at peace...he seemed to have such a tortured spirit over the last years and I my heart believes what Brookie just shared....

I always wondered if I had all the money in the world, would I have lived or would this disease have killed me....When prescription drugs kill people like Elvis and Michael Jackson, I have my answer....no addict is unique, special nor invincible....jails, institutions or death.

Today I am grateful I'm clean & sober and alive....

R.I.P.
Thriller -Best album ever.That album defines the 80's.

I have it on my ipod and The best of the Jackson's.

Its funny Stacey, I remember watching him on TV along with the Osmond's when they were just kids as lead singers of the family bands. Ironically I am only 4 years older than he is. I thought he was much younger than 50, almost 51.

His talent was huge.

To me I saw a child in a grown up body, but never the man. I could be way off base, and I am not naive, but watching him on that interview show, pretty much sealed the deal with me. He is what he is. Different? of course he is, so are a lot of folks, he just happens to be in the public eye.
Pedophile? I don't think that for one second.

Elvis, Nichole, and others including MJ, were unfortunately the type where people they surrounded themselves with were 'yes men and women'. I think people are paid very well to hang with folks like them, but someone must come forward at some point and say 'enough', just as Britney's Dad did. Just as Amy Winehouse's family did. Sometimes we need rescuing from ourselves.

Money should not be the deciding factor to determine right from wrong. Those 3 had those surrounding them who did know the difference and shame on them for taking the money and running, and the 3 in question were too f***ed up on drugs to know the difference, clearly the only time people can take advantage of us, when we are blasted.

Again this is only my observations growing up with the Jackson Five, then MJ himself, he made great strides in the music industry.

I credit his father for the recognition of his sons talents and bringing them to us.
My first poster when I was around 6-7 yrs old was of Michael and then I had another of the Jackson 5. I can still see the poster in my mind. Part of my childhood died yesterday with his death....I guess this is how my parents felt when Elvis died.

And I've found through living life's lessons that the most loving thing a person can do for someone is quit enabling and step out of denial and look at reality and call it what it is, not justify nor rationalize it....Those who prosper off sickness are some of the sickest people out there....

I pray for his children...
xoxo

I so agree with you Ms Stacey, Michael was a big part of our life, as Elvis was to our parents generation.
The only famous person I have ever cried when died was Dale Sr. and I didn't know the man. Typically not something I do, but it just came in buckets.



Typically not something I do, but it just came in buckets.


Me too, I still tear up when I watch old races and see that 3 on the racetrack....
I think MJ's doctor is going to be in a bucket full of trouble - injecting him with Demerol supposedly on a daily basis. Allegedly of course for now.

I have had demerol several times for migraine in the ER - very strong stuff, short-acting, tho. I also heard that he was on xanax and oxy's. We'll see what the tox report says.

He really must have hated himself and tried to escape who he was through plastic surgery and drugs. What a shame. And what an extraordinary talent, even as a young kid. And so cute back then.

In my mind I have no doubt he crossed the line with kids. But because of his twisted upbringing, I don't think HE thought he was doing anything wrong. That doesn't excuse it, but I feel more sorry for him than disgusted by him.