Hi roomies, how is everyone tonight? I can't say as I blame Deirdre for leaving. She has come here looking for caring and compassion and has been nothing but attacked for this. She has bin TOTALLY UPFRONT, and she's gotten for if was harsh critism. Not all of have us the complete self control that that some of you in here preach, so with that respect,,,some maybe need to back the funk off.!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have taken her under my wing in the depression site where, "WE DON'T JUDGE FELLOW SUFFERERS"!!!!!!!!! She will feel much more welcome there!!! TTFN blys
please Blys, Iv'e never once said a bad word to deidre, she knows I care about her, Just please tell her I Still care, and I'm worried
Love Dottie
Love Dottie
Nobody has said anything bad about D.
All they have done is try to help her and she bit that hand.
It's ok though, she's an addict and addicts aren't always rational or reasonable. But until you start to listen and make some changes, nothing changes. That's up to her. We just tried to give her something to think about.
Cowgirl
All they have done is try to help her and she bit that hand.
It's ok though, she's an addict and addicts aren't always rational or reasonable. But until you start to listen and make some changes, nothing changes. That's up to her. We just tried to give her something to think about.
Cowgirl
Not you Dottie!!!!!!!And I will relay that message for you. TTFN blys
In all fairness, I think everyone tried their best in the only way they knew how, to guide Deirdre to the right path.
We are all taught that any mind altering substances are a big no no.
Although many of my fellow addicts in recovery won't agree with me, I saw things a different way with Dierdre.
I saw a woman struggling with agony, depression and hardship. I saw her great desire not to go back to opiates, even though she had a legitimate reason to.
I give her credit for that.
I saw a woman desperate for relief, not one seeking a high. I could be wrong of course, it wouldn't be the first time, lol.
Whatever the case, she won't be judged by me.
I also saw the bright and talented woman she is and I have hope for her future health and happiness.
Until she returns, I will miss her unique writing style and personality.
I'll email you, Deirdre, if you're reading this, I hope you will too.
Love, Kat
We are all taught that any mind altering substances are a big no no.
Although many of my fellow addicts in recovery won't agree with me, I saw things a different way with Dierdre.
I saw a woman struggling with agony, depression and hardship. I saw her great desire not to go back to opiates, even though she had a legitimate reason to.
I give her credit for that.
I saw a woman desperate for relief, not one seeking a high. I could be wrong of course, it wouldn't be the first time, lol.
Whatever the case, she won't be judged by me.
I also saw the bright and talented woman she is and I have hope for her future health and happiness.
Until she returns, I will miss her unique writing style and personality.
I'll email you, Deirdre, if you're reading this, I hope you will too.
Love, Kat
Dear Blys
I have to disagree with your statement that deirdre was attacked. You have an addict who is running her own program. She needs proffesional help. She needs to somehow find relief from her pain.
Pain is pain it sucks. I know as Ilive with it every day. I know the anger fear frustration and awful depression. I live all alone and fight my deamons daily.
One phone call and I have 300 asst opiates and benzos. Instead I got involved in a sub program returned to AA and FIGHT for my freakin life. Tonight will be day 5 on cymbalta. I have no clue if this will help but I have been depressed for months. No way to live. So i listened to my doctor and trying this new med.
Blys same goes for Deirde. I have no idea what her situation is but go back and read her posts. She is so angry. JMO-blys but I know how deirdre feels. If she continues to be her own doctor she will just get worse and possibly die.
All these good people are trying to help her. NOBODY ATTACKED HER.
If you can speak to her then help her understand that she needs help not about who "attacked" and who did not. This is not a popularity contest.
This is her LIFE. Do you not feel she is worth fighting for? Please help her as she obviously does not want help from the board.
Sincerely,
Jeffrey
I have to disagree with your statement that deirdre was attacked. You have an addict who is running her own program. She needs proffesional help. She needs to somehow find relief from her pain.
Pain is pain it sucks. I know as Ilive with it every day. I know the anger fear frustration and awful depression. I live all alone and fight my deamons daily.
One phone call and I have 300 asst opiates and benzos. Instead I got involved in a sub program returned to AA and FIGHT for my freakin life. Tonight will be day 5 on cymbalta. I have no clue if this will help but I have been depressed for months. No way to live. So i listened to my doctor and trying this new med.
Blys same goes for Deirde. I have no idea what her situation is but go back and read her posts. She is so angry. JMO-blys but I know how deirdre feels. If she continues to be her own doctor she will just get worse and possibly die.
All these good people are trying to help her. NOBODY ATTACKED HER.
If you can speak to her then help her understand that she needs help not about who "attacked" and who did not. This is not a popularity contest.
This is her LIFE. Do you not feel she is worth fighting for? Please help her as she obviously does not want help from the board.
Sincerely,
Jeffrey
Hi Jeff, (I love your strength btw)
I don't think she felt attacked as much as she felt gained up on and misunderstood. You know how we are early in our recovery. We're very sensitive. I think Deirdre could gain alot of encouragement from someone like you.
you understand pain and depression and lonliness. I think it would be helpful for her to have someone who could relate.
If you don't mind me asking, what are your pain issues? I must have missed it on other threads.
Whatever the case, I salute you for taking charge of your disease and doing what is best for your health.
Love, Kat
I don't think she felt attacked as much as she felt gained up on and misunderstood. You know how we are early in our recovery. We're very sensitive. I think Deirdre could gain alot of encouragement from someone like you.
you understand pain and depression and lonliness. I think it would be helpful for her to have someone who could relate.
If you don't mind me asking, what are your pain issues? I must have missed it on other threads.
Whatever the case, I salute you for taking charge of your disease and doing what is best for your health.
Love, Kat
Kat I suffer a few different ways. First and formeost I suffer like all of us who are addicts. Its painful being an addict . Do you agree?
Besides that I have chronic pain daily Due to prednisone for asthma back in75 I have developed many conditions.
Avascular neucrosis--death of bone--has lead to 2 hip replacements constant pain in all my joints as i have no cartlage and much muscle damage due to prednisone. Bone has died in my legs and then settles. Causes constant when I walk. Knees are hangin by a thread.
Crave foods from prednisone and serequel.
I have psoratic arthritis and osteo arthritis. I am Bi Polar and have been in and out of severe depression on and off for decades.
Kat a whole bunch of other side effects--cataracts--Severe mood swings --My skin is paper thin around my calfs so minor bumps can cause severe cuts needing stitches. Any cut needs immediate attention as With hip replacement any infection can be devestating.
The physical pain I can fight. The mental pain is devestating. But I have no choice. No more runs for me. So learning how to live via listening to my doctors.
NO MORE SELF MEDICATING.
Recovery is not easy. But what choice do I have? Give up? That is for faries. I am a fighter. But it would be nice to get a break as I have had surgeries since 1999.
Have a good night --Kat
Take care Kat --jeff
Besides that I have chronic pain daily Due to prednisone for asthma back in75 I have developed many conditions.
Avascular neucrosis--death of bone--has lead to 2 hip replacements constant pain in all my joints as i have no cartlage and much muscle damage due to prednisone. Bone has died in my legs and then settles. Causes constant when I walk. Knees are hangin by a thread.
Crave foods from prednisone and serequel.
I have psoratic arthritis and osteo arthritis. I am Bi Polar and have been in and out of severe depression on and off for decades.
Kat a whole bunch of other side effects--cataracts--Severe mood swings --My skin is paper thin around my calfs so minor bumps can cause severe cuts needing stitches. Any cut needs immediate attention as With hip replacement any infection can be devestating.
The physical pain I can fight. The mental pain is devestating. But I have no choice. No more runs for me. So learning how to live via listening to my doctors.
NO MORE SELF MEDICATING.
Recovery is not easy. But what choice do I have? Give up? That is for faries. I am a fighter. But it would be nice to get a break as I have had surgeries since 1999.
Have a good night --Kat
Take care Kat --jeff
Dear Kat:
You say what someone needs to hear and will help her, I hope if she is still reading, she will read 2 of your major post on this thread.
Jeff, e'one does not use pain as an excuse. I believe her pain and her desparation for getting relief or she wouldn't have posted what she did and tell us what she has done.
I have felt desparate pain, sure you have, too.
I don't know how you handle yours, you just seems to throw a lot of anger and I don't think that's healthy for you or anyone who dosn't have a little of a hold on their addiction.
Deidre:
I will email you.
To all; I will tell her how much we care - the ones whoe have posted to this thread.
Love, Jean
You say what someone needs to hear and will help her, I hope if she is still reading, she will read 2 of your major post on this thread.
Jeff, e'one does not use pain as an excuse. I believe her pain and her desparation for getting relief or she wouldn't have posted what she did and tell us what she has done.
I have felt desparate pain, sure you have, too.
I don't know how you handle yours, you just seems to throw a lot of anger and I don't think that's healthy for you or anyone who dosn't have a little of a hold on their addiction.
Deidre:
I will email you.
To all; I will tell her how much we care - the ones whoe have posted to this thread.
Love, Jean
Jeff, e'one does not use pain as an excuse. I believe her pain and her desparation for getting relief or she wouldn't have posted what she did and tell us what she has done.
I have felt desparate pain, sure you have, too.
I don't know how you handle yours, you just seems to throw a lot of anger and I don't think that's healthy for you or anyone who dosn't have a little of a hold on their addiction
Jean I was asked a question and answered it. I have no idea where you are coming from. I work very hard on ALL of my issues. I throw Anger? at who?
I feel awful about deirdre pain. My mother had the same condidtion many years ago before they even knew what it was. She had 4 kids 1 was still born at 8 months and finally a hysterectomy. I have read about the illness its awful. My sister has similar issue's. She had to have some procedure done as she was in awful pain. Pain is Pain.
Jean this thread is not about my anger. i have no idea where you are coming from.
Jeff
You just seem like a very high strung person, I may be nis-interpreting that for anger. If so, I'm sorry.
You asked about my pain.
As of now, I just have my e'day pain. When I have another flare-up, my R-gist who wants to give me 120 pills a month gave me a 'scrip for 10 pills - I gave the 'script to my husband - only 4 months clean and I really hate the pills this time, do not feel safe having them in my possession.
DR said he would love to think that Fibro people could get through life w/o pain pills but until it gets more attn and they find s'thing non-addictive for it, he thinks that is the only way. He told me I would need more than 10 - but didn't push on me - told me to call him when I had a flare if I needed more. I wanted him to u'stand but with him so willing to give lots of pills, I have to stay strong enough all by myself to know flare from a want. I pray I will keep knowing the difference.
That's my story, I have OA, too but pain is nothing compared to the Fibro and the older I get , the worse it gets. I am now where I want to be - almost 50 and taking no narcotics. Within the next couple of years I hope to be a g'mother and I don't want my son to not let me keep my g'child b/c of being an active addict.
I don't even wany to have a child with me while on drugs. That will make me miss a lot if I don't stick to this.
Glad you're not mean,
Jean
You asked about my pain.
As of now, I just have my e'day pain. When I have another flare-up, my R-gist who wants to give me 120 pills a month gave me a 'scrip for 10 pills - I gave the 'script to my husband - only 4 months clean and I really hate the pills this time, do not feel safe having them in my possession.
DR said he would love to think that Fibro people could get through life w/o pain pills but until it gets more attn and they find s'thing non-addictive for it, he thinks that is the only way. He told me I would need more than 10 - but didn't push on me - told me to call him when I had a flare if I needed more. I wanted him to u'stand but with him so willing to give lots of pills, I have to stay strong enough all by myself to know flare from a want. I pray I will keep knowing the difference.
That's my story, I have OA, too but pain is nothing compared to the Fibro and the older I get , the worse it gets. I am now where I want to be - almost 50 and taking no narcotics. Within the next couple of years I hope to be a g'mother and I don't want my son to not let me keep my g'child b/c of being an active addict.
I don't even wany to have a child with me while on drugs. That will make me miss a lot if I don't stick to this.
Glad you're not mean,
Jean
Jean why would you think I am mean? LOL
Have a good day--Jeff
Have a good day--Jeff
I think it's the picture of the little mean Irishman beside you - I know Irish people aren't mean but that picture is.
Get a sweet puppy or kitten and put beside your words - haha
Gotta love ya!
I do love and admire people who tell it like it is. I married one.
Jean
Get a sweet puppy or kitten and put beside your words - haha
Gotta love ya!
I do love and admire people who tell it like it is. I married one.
Jean
Jeff, wow....I'm just amazed. So very few of us could endure what you do and have the strength to not take pills. I am truly impressed.
I have some ruptured discs and sometimes they agitate the s*** out of me, then I see somebody like you come along and it helps me to remember that I don't have it so bad at all.
You're my hero of the day.
You have mail, btw, sorry it took me so long.
Jean, you impress me also.
It's bad enough that we all have to deal with addiction, seems like we could be spared physical pain at least.
I don't know if either of you have tried the non narcotic patches, but I use them whenever I ache more than I can reasonably stand and they really help.
Love to you both, Kat
I have some ruptured discs and sometimes they agitate the s*** out of me, then I see somebody like you come along and it helps me to remember that I don't have it so bad at all.
You're my hero of the day.
You have mail, btw, sorry it took me so long.
Jean, you impress me also.
It's bad enough that we all have to deal with addiction, seems like we could be spared physical pain at least.
I don't know if either of you have tried the non narcotic patches, but I use them whenever I ache more than I can reasonably stand and they really help.
Love to you both, Kat
