I wish i could offer some good advice MJ-- but for now i am just wishing you to feel better asap!!
dear soccer mom,
You went to a shrink and then lied about your life???lolol sorry but it is funny in retrospect because you went back and did it right....right?lolol
The first shrink i went to, made a blatant pass at me....havent been back to one since, but since being at the board here, have been reconsidering it...Im also older now and more capable of handling a situation like that.....have a couple of years of Karate under my belt too.lolol
Hugs,
Ali
You went to a shrink and then lied about your life???lolol sorry but it is funny in retrospect because you went back and did it right....right?lolol
The first shrink i went to, made a blatant pass at me....havent been back to one since, but since being at the board here, have been reconsidering it...Im also older now and more capable of handling a situation like that.....have a couple of years of Karate under my belt too.lolol
Hugs,
Ali
Aww Gina Im so glad you took the time to chat with me,Im not upset about you bring that up,as a matter of fact you have got me thinking,which actually right now seems to be going good.(I know that made sense)
Sorry my mother came over for a minute.
Thank you Jeff & I hope your feeling better throatwise.Stay away from junk food huh?I think its alittle late for that.LOL
Fire just knowing Im in your thoughts help more than you know.It SUCKS so bad to get the depression like Ive been getting.Im not use to it NOR am I use to trying to deal with it in a positive way like Im trying.As I said for at least 20 years I did a good job of playing pretend to live.Anytime (which back then was everyminute)I felt something Id just take more pills.Thats not who I am or want to be anymore.For me to take the anti dees is a step.Because when I was abusing you couldnt tell me I had depression.I didnt except that I did.Why is there so much shame behind mental illness anyways?Having a chemical inbalence doesnt ,mean Im not a good person....
Sorry my mother came over for a minute.
Thank you Jeff & I hope your feeling better throatwise.Stay away from junk food huh?I think its alittle late for that.LOL
Fire just knowing Im in your thoughts help more than you know.It SUCKS so bad to get the depression like Ive been getting.Im not use to it NOR am I use to trying to deal with it in a positive way like Im trying.As I said for at least 20 years I did a good job of playing pretend to live.Anytime (which back then was everyminute)I felt something Id just take more pills.Thats not who I am or want to be anymore.For me to take the anti dees is a step.Because when I was abusing you couldnt tell me I had depression.I didnt except that I did.Why is there so much shame behind mental illness anyways?Having a chemical inbalence doesnt ,mean Im not a good person....
Ali,
LOL, Denial is a wonderful thing. In retrospect, I look at some of the statements I made in early therapy and wonder if I was delirious (and for the first part of the time I was in therapy, I wasn't even using so I haven't the excuse of being stoned). I don't know that I was lying -- my childhood did seem "normal" to me. What did I have to compare it to? Well, actually, the first thing I had to compare it to was my own kids' childhoods and then all the bizarrenesses of my own became apparent. I don't think it's uncommon for folks to confront these issues when they have children themselves. Dr. M and I are looking into why I started using opiates when my younger son (who is a lot like me emotionally and physically) turned the age I was when my own sexual abuse began. To be honest, though I'm not glad I used painkillers inappropriately, I'm not sure I could ever have confronted these issues in their first impact stone-cold sober. I could have run in denial for another two decades easily.
A friend of mine who is an abuse survivor had a therapist make a pass at her. I'm not a violent person, but I'd like to kill him.
Cheers,
Gina
LOL, Denial is a wonderful thing. In retrospect, I look at some of the statements I made in early therapy and wonder if I was delirious (and for the first part of the time I was in therapy, I wasn't even using so I haven't the excuse of being stoned). I don't know that I was lying -- my childhood did seem "normal" to me. What did I have to compare it to? Well, actually, the first thing I had to compare it to was my own kids' childhoods and then all the bizarrenesses of my own became apparent. I don't think it's uncommon for folks to confront these issues when they have children themselves. Dr. M and I are looking into why I started using opiates when my younger son (who is a lot like me emotionally and physically) turned the age I was when my own sexual abuse began. To be honest, though I'm not glad I used painkillers inappropriately, I'm not sure I could ever have confronted these issues in their first impact stone-cold sober. I could have run in denial for another two decades easily.
A friend of mine who is an abuse survivor had a therapist make a pass at her. I'm not a violent person, but I'd like to kill him.
Cheers,
Gina
Hey MJ, the Cymbalta is an a/d and it contains two different types of medication in it and it works on two different receptors in the brain. It is used for pain and for depression. The good thing about the Cymbalta is that it starts to work immediately and you don't have that two or three week lull like you do with most a/d. Bri and Liz are taking it and I believe that they really like it. I know that I do. Jeff also has started taking it and he says that it helps with his sleep as well. Now, as far as taking the trazadone and the effexor together, well, I don't have the answer for that one but Jeff takes Serequel and Cymbalta together so I don't know what the big deal is. It seems to me like you should be able to take the Effexor with the Trazadone until you can ween down off of the Effexor. Maybe you are putting too much trust into your doctor. I really don't know the correct answer for that either, but if I were you, I would really question this doctor and ask them why you can't take the Effexor and Trazadone together or get on the Cymbalta with the Trazadone. I would buckle down on that doctor's butt and make him put it to me in black and white why the two can't be mixed. Stick up for yourself girl, don't let the doctor run the whole show, you play a big part in this too. Yeah, it may piss the good ole doc off when you question him, but who gives a crap. Doctors make mistakes every damn day and they usually don't like to own up to them.
MJ, I know that coming off of an a/d cold turkey can make you sick first hand. I did that once and I was throwing up and crying and sick as a dog.... Never again will I pull that stunt. Also, I was terrified when they switched me to Cymbalta and pulled me off of my other a/d cold turkey. I just knew that I would have those terrible side effects that I just spoke of but it didn't happen with the Cymbalta and for the first time in more years than I can count, I am not depressed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not all honky dorey with this time of year and the holidays but I am finding that they are much more bearable (sic). Also, since starting the Cymbalta I have found that I have been able to put some demons that have haunted me my entire adult life to rest. I don't sweat the small things anymore, I just roll with the flow and if people don't like it, well tough.
Please let me know if there is anymore that I can do for you MJ, you have always given so kindly and freely to this board and it is high time that the tables are turned. It is time for us to give to you. We love you MJ... Smile Sweet Cheeks, everything will work out just fine.
MJ, I know that coming off of an a/d cold turkey can make you sick first hand. I did that once and I was throwing up and crying and sick as a dog.... Never again will I pull that stunt. Also, I was terrified when they switched me to Cymbalta and pulled me off of my other a/d cold turkey. I just knew that I would have those terrible side effects that I just spoke of but it didn't happen with the Cymbalta and for the first time in more years than I can count, I am not depressed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not all honky dorey with this time of year and the holidays but I am finding that they are much more bearable (sic). Also, since starting the Cymbalta I have found that I have been able to put some demons that have haunted me my entire adult life to rest. I don't sweat the small things anymore, I just roll with the flow and if people don't like it, well tough.
Please let me know if there is anymore that I can do for you MJ, you have always given so kindly and freely to this board and it is high time that the tables are turned. It is time for us to give to you. We love you MJ... Smile Sweet Cheeks, everything will work out just fine.
Molly,
You need to give yourself a hug!
My sister takes Effexor and when she stops like that she becomes very ill. So I think it could be the stop in meds. All these meds have a different chemical action and so your body adjusts to one and when it is removed takes awhile for the other to kick in. It also might not be the chemical helpful for you with depression but it might help you with sleep. Sometimes they are able to use 2 ad's in combo to achieve ad effects as well assist in sleep. Like I have taken Remeron along with Welbutrin. Remeron makes me sleep and is cheap which is good. I have not ever tried Trazadone. Now I am thinking that none of these meds are very helpful.
I have bouts of depression not bipolar. My mom committed suicide and this depression seems to runs roger rabbit in my family. I just haven't found a magic pill for me. Both my sisters were helped with Effexor though. I think counseling would be of benefit but I haven't found anyone I wanna sit and listen to lately. Takes the right fit in a person and alot of patience in finding that person. I got sick of telling people my story! I do, however, think it is very beneficial. In the past I was helped alot with couseling. I'm at a new phase in my life where I do think it would be of benefit.
Anyway, with all that said you need to not be so hard on yourself. Let go of your guilt in asking for help. I mean gosh Molly what is this group called???? A support group silly! So when you need support ask and it is given. I myself came here asking for help and support in the upcoming week as I have to get myself centered for this surgery and mentally stronger for what lies ahead. So we all have times when we need the help and consideration from another. It takes strength and courage to be able to ask for it don't ya think??? We suffer in silence alot and enough. Esp people like you and me. People afraid to ask for a little encouragement.
I suggest you go back and talk it over with your doctor and maybe even your pharmacist. Did you like the Effexor? Ask your pharmacist if he has seen Effexor mixed with anything that assists in sleeping. Then go back to your doctor with the info. Sometimes they do not know what goes with what. Also look and see if the Holidays are pulling your cord a little and making your symptoms worse or anything going on in your life and if you could benefit from extra support in counseling. Keep reaching out to your friends Molly. It's why they are around.
love,
pm
You need to give yourself a hug!
My sister takes Effexor and when she stops like that she becomes very ill. So I think it could be the stop in meds. All these meds have a different chemical action and so your body adjusts to one and when it is removed takes awhile for the other to kick in. It also might not be the chemical helpful for you with depression but it might help you with sleep. Sometimes they are able to use 2 ad's in combo to achieve ad effects as well assist in sleep. Like I have taken Remeron along with Welbutrin. Remeron makes me sleep and is cheap which is good. I have not ever tried Trazadone. Now I am thinking that none of these meds are very helpful.
I have bouts of depression not bipolar. My mom committed suicide and this depression seems to runs roger rabbit in my family. I just haven't found a magic pill for me. Both my sisters were helped with Effexor though. I think counseling would be of benefit but I haven't found anyone I wanna sit and listen to lately. Takes the right fit in a person and alot of patience in finding that person. I got sick of telling people my story! I do, however, think it is very beneficial. In the past I was helped alot with couseling. I'm at a new phase in my life where I do think it would be of benefit.
Anyway, with all that said you need to not be so hard on yourself. Let go of your guilt in asking for help. I mean gosh Molly what is this group called???? A support group silly! So when you need support ask and it is given. I myself came here asking for help and support in the upcoming week as I have to get myself centered for this surgery and mentally stronger for what lies ahead. So we all have times when we need the help and consideration from another. It takes strength and courage to be able to ask for it don't ya think??? We suffer in silence alot and enough. Esp people like you and me. People afraid to ask for a little encouragement.
I suggest you go back and talk it over with your doctor and maybe even your pharmacist. Did you like the Effexor? Ask your pharmacist if he has seen Effexor mixed with anything that assists in sleeping. Then go back to your doctor with the info. Sometimes they do not know what goes with what. Also look and see if the Holidays are pulling your cord a little and making your symptoms worse or anything going on in your life and if you could benefit from extra support in counseling. Keep reaching out to your friends Molly. It's why they are around.
love,
pm
Pm first let me say I havent been around lately so I didnt know you were having surgery.Please know that even though Im off my norm right now if I can help please let me know.
Everyone has given me lot of food for thought.I feel better knowing I dont need to feel alone in this.So many meds to think & choose from & for an addict that is the MOST dangerous thing.I want to get this right for so many reasons.I dont want to let myself be controled by pills anymore!!!
After being on here today Im starting to really question if I really need the Sub that much?No I know I cant just stop that but what I mean is my physical pain THAT bad?
Now thats something Id never thought Id even think about.
I wish I could say that NOW Im ready,ya know Im finally ready to see a thrapist,& find a pill free way to deal with my pain but I just am befuddled right now ya know???
Everyone has given me lot of food for thought.I feel better knowing I dont need to feel alone in this.So many meds to think & choose from & for an addict that is the MOST dangerous thing.I want to get this right for so many reasons.I dont want to let myself be controled by pills anymore!!!
After being on here today Im starting to really question if I really need the Sub that much?No I know I cant just stop that but what I mean is my physical pain THAT bad?
Now thats something Id never thought Id even think about.
I wish I could say that NOW Im ready,ya know Im finally ready to see a thrapist,& find a pill free way to deal with my pain but I just am befuddled right now ya know???
molly dolly,
i am on cymbalta and serequal they are both not anti depressants only the cymbalta is and it takes a week to ten days to kick in, now the serequal is was knocks you out like a light and it is an antipsychotic, because i am a crazy fool. no cause i am bipolarbut the serequal doesnt take anytime to kick in, you dont have to wait on that. i am telling you. it has changed my life so much for the better. i am in such a good mood almost balways i get accused of being stoned lolbut seriously. i dont have tose overwhelming debilitating feelings of not wanting to leave my house like i did last year. i dont get debilitating anxiety. i am alot calmer with my kids i am able to reason better with them rather then get upset and create friction. so overall it has effected everyone and my whole life is better. i am even going to my mothers side of the family christmas this year with her 5 brothers thier wives, all the cousins and thier kids. i havent done that in over 5 years. so for me these two drugs have been my magic potion. i am grateful to have found a good dr that worked with me and helped me find my combo.
terrianne
i am on cymbalta and serequal they are both not anti depressants only the cymbalta is and it takes a week to ten days to kick in, now the serequal is was knocks you out like a light and it is an antipsychotic, because i am a crazy fool. no cause i am bipolarbut the serequal doesnt take anytime to kick in, you dont have to wait on that. i am telling you. it has changed my life so much for the better. i am in such a good mood almost balways i get accused of being stoned lolbut seriously. i dont have tose overwhelming debilitating feelings of not wanting to leave my house like i did last year. i dont get debilitating anxiety. i am alot calmer with my kids i am able to reason better with them rather then get upset and create friction. so overall it has effected everyone and my whole life is better. i am even going to my mothers side of the family christmas this year with her 5 brothers thier wives, all the cousins and thier kids. i havent done that in over 5 years. so for me these two drugs have been my magic potion. i am grateful to have found a good dr that worked with me and helped me find my combo.
terrianne
Hi Terri,It does seem like what I knew it was The meds.I kinda knew what & why Ive been feeling this depressed,I was /maybe still am alittle scared of myself right now.Im not the type of woman who enjoys being mean & angry & depressed & Ive really been mad at myself this week.I hate the depression.To sit & cry over a Trya Banks show is pretty sad.And as far as my Anne & me this week,deep down I know we dont hate each other but this week has been hard on us.You know how our kids can be real mean to us?Well of all weeks for her to really get into kick mom mode it was this week.
I dont expect to be in a great mood ALL the time,I just want to level out again ya know?I mean before this week i liked who I was mostly(of course after some post today Im really starting to think about stuff)(I mean that in a very positive way.Gosh I must be sounding so NUTS!!!!
By the way Terri Im glad things are looking up for you...
I dont expect to be in a great mood ALL the time,I just want to level out again ya know?I mean before this week i liked who I was mostly(of course after some post today Im really starting to think about stuff)(I mean that in a very positive way.Gosh I must be sounding so NUTS!!!!
By the way Terri Im glad things are looking up for you...
Thanks Molly,
You will go to counseling when you are ready and if you are ready. Don't beat yourself up. One thing at a time. Right now try to focus on the depression and getting it better. Don't do it all at once. One step at a time.
Terrianne,
So good you are feeling better. When my sister was put on ad's it changed her life. I mean changed her entire life. She said to me she could not believe how much better she was. So when you find the right combo., if your body needs them it can be the best thing ever. I was happy for her. She deserved a break after about 35 years of hell. So congrats to you. I'm happy for anyone who can have their life really be changed for the better. Some say we abuse the use of rx drugs. It is probably true but in certain cases it is truly a miracle I think.
peace,
pm
You will go to counseling when you are ready and if you are ready. Don't beat yourself up. One thing at a time. Right now try to focus on the depression and getting it better. Don't do it all at once. One step at a time.
Terrianne,
So good you are feeling better. When my sister was put on ad's it changed her life. I mean changed her entire life. She said to me she could not believe how much better she was. So when you find the right combo., if your body needs them it can be the best thing ever. I was happy for her. She deserved a break after about 35 years of hell. So congrats to you. I'm happy for anyone who can have their life really be changed for the better. Some say we abuse the use of rx drugs. It is probably true but in certain cases it is truly a miracle I think.
peace,
pm
hey molly,
do you get like this every year this time of year? and then start picking up a little bit after february? cause thats how i was and they diagnosed me bipolar and ever since last year i have been very level and very happy. i do have some days but nothing at all in comparison to what i used to feel. now its just normal crys and normal being upset and i can be rational when i am feeling down emotions and not go bolistic.
terrianne
do you get like this every year this time of year? and then start picking up a little bit after february? cause thats how i was and they diagnosed me bipolar and ever since last year i have been very level and very happy. i do have some days but nothing at all in comparison to what i used to feel. now its just normal crys and normal being upset and i can be rational when i am feeling down emotions and not go bolistic.
terrianne
MJ...sorry to hear you're having such a hard time...please do not ct ad....bad...everyone has already given you ample info, so I will just say that I hope you find a combo that works for you.They gave me serequel in detox and it really knocked me out...take care, feel better..Love, Sharonn
Terri I do get down alittle more in Dec,but I know its more the meds now.which of course I already knew.I think Im going to sign off for a bit & see if I can do some damage control with Anne.
To everyone who took the time to post to me & to whoever may THANK YOU
This is the reason this board is like family to me.In a matter of what 30 post,I feel so much more better.Just talking it out was the best thing I could of ever done for myself today.I know I also need to get this med thing in order but until Monday I also know I need to try & ride with it.
So with that said I just want to say THANK YOU to all from the bottom of my Mj heart.7 I hope someday I can help all of you in some way too.I will probaly be back around later,so until than I hope you all enjoy the rest of your Saturday.Love.....mj
To everyone who took the time to post to me & to whoever may THANK YOU
This is the reason this board is like family to me.In a matter of what 30 post,I feel so much more better.Just talking it out was the best thing I could of ever done for myself today.I know I also need to get this med thing in order but until Monday I also know I need to try & ride with it.
So with that said I just want to say THANK YOU to all from the bottom of my Mj heart.7 I hope someday I can help all of you in some way too.I will probaly be back around later,so until than I hope you all enjoy the rest of your Saturday.Love.....mj
Ah sweetie....
Like PM said you need to give yourself a hug....and I am sending some as well.
Not sure what your doctor was thinking taking you off the effexor ct like that. Not sure why he didn't just leave you on both. There are many combos of AD's that can be taking together. Damn I wish Danny was around still she took all of them at one point until she found the right mix, which actually turned into 2 different AD's at the same time.....
Strange what you feel off of it I felt on it.....So I kinda know where you are at, and it ain't pretty......
You need to hang on here and know that it will all be ok. It is gonna take some time, and you are worth giving that time to yourself. Try not to worry about who you might not be paying enough attention to, just worry about you....You are most important here.
I an sorry I can't stay now, the baby is pulling on me but I will be back later tonight. You know how to find me if you need anything.
Love Yah,
Tina
Like PM said you need to give yourself a hug....and I am sending some as well.
Not sure what your doctor was thinking taking you off the effexor ct like that. Not sure why he didn't just leave you on both. There are many combos of AD's that can be taking together. Damn I wish Danny was around still she took all of them at one point until she found the right mix, which actually turned into 2 different AD's at the same time.....
Strange what you feel off of it I felt on it.....So I kinda know where you are at, and it ain't pretty......
You need to hang on here and know that it will all be ok. It is gonna take some time, and you are worth giving that time to yourself. Try not to worry about who you might not be paying enough attention to, just worry about you....You are most important here.
I an sorry I can't stay now, the baby is pulling on me but I will be back later tonight. You know how to find me if you need anything.
Love Yah,
Tina
MJ
We need the attentionj back on you...how are you feeling already better???
Im here for you
Ali
We need the attentionj back on you...how are you feeling already better???
Im here for you
Ali
