Hi all.UMMMM first let me say that my having to do this or admit that I need your support & advise is hard.I dont know why as this is a great group for support.but this is hard so if I sound pitiful I probaly am.
OK as some of you know I was having really bad sleeping issues.For those who dont know my story Ill just say I was only getting about 4 broken hrs of sleep a nite for probaly 9mths...12mths????
Anyways last week I went to my Dr ,I did do alot of research & talking on here about different options,& after much thought (by me)& much discussion with my Dr we desided to try trazodone 50mg to start.
So the first 2 nites I slept real good.It was the first time since????that I slept at least 6 hr.For me that was great.Anyways I wrote last week saying how I wasnt going to post due to the emotional swings.Mainly really depressed(I cried over a stupid Tyra Banks show!!!)Its bad guys.Im thankful that its not so bad Im thinking suicide.Which I read could be a side effect.
Ok before I you more confused I think explain alittle more.
I take Suboxone for pain & addictive issues
I also have depression,which I was on effoxor,before the trazodone.So with my sleep issues instead of jumping onto a prescription sleeping pill & opening another door that could lead to another addiction,my goal was to find a antidee that would also help me sleep/So yesterday I knew that the depression was getting worse,& also I started to throw up(yuck sorry).
So just to try & get a grip I called my pharmacy to discuss the side effects of the trazodone.She said that it was probaly because I stopped the effxor at 150mg,& went on 50 mg of the trazodone.That I probaly needed to increase it but to talk to my Dr which I did & increased to 100mg a nite.
Almost done guys....Anyways I could use some input or advise from you guys.
I know Im going to go to my Dr Monday because I cant live like I am
Yes Im sleeping but between the real low depression & the hating of everything(even the real MJ)Im not so sure that the trazodone is the right thing for me.Its almost worth it to me to only sleep 4 hrs & be me,this person Ive been this past week is someone I havent been for years.It would scare me alot more if I DIDNT understand whats happening,but thankfully I know its because of the med switch & Im trying real hard to just ride with it until it can be fix.
So after writing you all this long book(Im sorry)
I guess what Im looking for from you guys is just,some information & some support.I hate myself right now & its hard to keep it together.
Has anyone ever taking the trazodone gone through this?
What do you all think I should do as far as switching med?
getting sleep without having to go onto some sleeping pills?
Sorry this has got to be my longest post yet but I know myself well enough to know I NEED the extra support right now,
So to whoever post back thank you from the bottom of my MJ heart.......mj
my dr weaned me off the effexor, maybe that's the problem?
oh mu gosh MJ....you shouldnt have just stopped taking the effexor...i did it but had only been on it for a month...i didnt think iwas depressed but promised to try it for the pain issue..was supposed to make it better..
when i stopped taking that effexor for 2 days i barfed and had a weird electrical eel in my forehead...wiggle and send shocks to my brain......
I have been on Trazadone after a close friend died....i had nightnares and was on it for about 2 weeks, then just stopped...no side effects for me at all..
Has to be c/t/ the effexor...sounds famialer..
talk to your doc....youll get this thing figured out
You wont always feel like this sweetie..HANG IN THERE!!!!!
big encouraging hug,
Ali
when i stopped taking that effexor for 2 days i barfed and had a weird electrical eel in my forehead...wiggle and send shocks to my brain......
I have been on Trazadone after a close friend died....i had nightnares and was on it for about 2 weeks, then just stopped...no side effects for me at all..
Has to be c/t/ the effexor...sounds famialer..
talk to your doc....youll get this thing figured out
You wont always feel like this sweetie..HANG IN THERE!!!!!
big encouraging hug,
Ali
Now janet you have Bi P right? Did you take trazodone?Did you go real low?
Thanks you
Ali Thank you(yup here come the stupid tears)I mean I understand why I feel this way but that only comforts so far.I havent been me now all week.Im grateful for my family cause even as crappy as Ive been this week they are trying to understand.GOD I hope I dont regret too much I mean my youngest & I are at the point of not talking(My Anne & Me have always been so close so knowing we hate each other right now is so hard
Thanks you
Ali Thank you(yup here come the stupid tears)I mean I understand why I feel this way but that only comforts so far.I havent been me now all week.Im grateful for my family cause even as crappy as Ive been this week they are trying to understand.GOD I hope I dont regret too much I mean my youngest & I are at the point of not talking(My Anne & Me have always been so close so knowing we hate each other right now is so hard
I was just heading out but you asked me to post here Molls...
I know nothing about any of those meds. But I do know that chemicals effect everyone differently and that most of those side effects go away after awhile. Sweetheart, your doc knows what's best for you but I would ask him, look, I'm on a lot of medications..am I safe? Keep it simple.
You need to post here Molls. Doesn't matter what you say, you need to talk. People here love you and wouldn't hurt you for the world, and if they do, they'll deal with me and a few others. Just say what's on your mind and get it off your chest. Okay?
I love you kiddo
Lisa
I know nothing about any of those meds. But I do know that chemicals effect everyone differently and that most of those side effects go away after awhile. Sweetheart, your doc knows what's best for you but I would ask him, look, I'm on a lot of medications..am I safe? Keep it simple.
You need to post here Molls. Doesn't matter what you say, you need to talk. People here love you and wouldn't hurt you for the world, and if they do, they'll deal with me and a few others. Just say what's on your mind and get it off your chest. Okay?
I love you kiddo
Lisa
molly,
my dr just upped my antidepressant and for two weeks i went through an adjustment period where i went through those same things. also it happened when i started my antideppressents. my psychiatrist told me about this because i told him i could not take them because everytime i do my dpression gets worse. he explained to me what goes on with the brain chemistry and the a/d untill it levels out. so anyway thats what i was told and i rode through it, i gave it a month and was glad i did. because now i have something that works. but if this is unusual to you, definately it is important to talk to your dr about it. especially if your quality of life is effecting you badly and your family. i will keep you in my prayers and hang in there untill you see your dr sweety.keep talking if you need us.
terrianne
my dr just upped my antidepressant and for two weeks i went through an adjustment period where i went through those same things. also it happened when i started my antideppressents. my psychiatrist told me about this because i told him i could not take them because everytime i do my dpression gets worse. he explained to me what goes on with the brain chemistry and the a/d untill it levels out. so anyway thats what i was told and i rode through it, i gave it a month and was glad i did. because now i have something that works. but if this is unusual to you, definately it is important to talk to your dr about it. especially if your quality of life is effecting you badly and your family. i will keep you in my prayers and hang in there untill you see your dr sweety.keep talking if you need us.
terrianne
Hey MJ I took Tazadone for sleep as well, I am not bipolar or have depression,
I had no side effects from traz at all. It just helped me sleep during menopause.
Can you call him/her now? Your doctor that is. Tell them what you just told us?
I had no side effects from traz at all. It just helped me sleep during menopause.
Can you call him/her now? Your doctor that is. Tell them what you just told us?
MJ janet just left to go move, she will be back this evening.
I have been on both Trazadone and Effexor. I was weaned off the Effexor. If I may comment your pain is obvious and perhaps now is the time to explore why you seem to sound so down instead of simply investigating a change in medications?
BY NO MEANS do I have all the answers, in fact Id rather not know most of the questions. However I found that as I worked my program, relied on my support group and discussed with them what was bothering me that the need for antidepressants and sleep aids diminished.
I also found that getting back in touch with God has truly helped me put some of the underlying issues at rest.
I am finding that by doing all of this I am having far more positive results than anything I got from medication. Obviously I think it is important to discuss your medications at all times with your Doctor I certainly do not hold a medical degree and I would rely on a doctors advise I would just ensure he knew I was a recovering addict.
When I couldnt sleep for any length of time and when I did it was awful for almost a year I remember someone telling me that No one has died from lack of sleep and so I chose to use the time I was awake to focus on those things that helped me in my recovery such as writing or doing the steps.
Remember This to shall pass
God bless.
BY NO MEANS do I have all the answers, in fact Id rather not know most of the questions. However I found that as I worked my program, relied on my support group and discussed with them what was bothering me that the need for antidepressants and sleep aids diminished.
I also found that getting back in touch with God has truly helped me put some of the underlying issues at rest.
I am finding that by doing all of this I am having far more positive results than anything I got from medication. Obviously I think it is important to discuss your medications at all times with your Doctor I certainly do not hold a medical degree and I would rely on a doctors advise I would just ensure he knew I was a recovering addict.
When I couldnt sleep for any length of time and when I did it was awful for almost a year I remember someone telling me that No one has died from lack of sleep and so I chose to use the time I was awake to focus on those things that helped me in my recovery such as writing or doing the steps.
Remember This to shall pass
God bless.
Thanks Lisa & Terri,I dont know why I always have this guilt when I come here in need.This place has never let me down like that.I just hate knowing I need the help.
Its scarey knowing that something is going on & not be able to JUST take something & fix it huh?The whole process of living a sober life at times still seems new to me.So many years if I felt sad,hell if I felt anything it was pop a bunch of pills & go numb.For this past year doing that hasnt been an option for me anymore ya know?I mean I take my Sub but its not something Im doing to try to get a buzz,THAT right there is something so new for me.
Guys I guess Im just going to be talking but any input you guys can give is important.I know that Ill end up discussing it with my Dr but just the knowledge that I can get from you all is important to me,,,,,
Hi Brooke thank you.I sort of know why in a way I feel this way.I do have depression so that is one reason I am on the antidees.I know this will pass,it just isnt going to happen NOW.As someone who has the addictive personalitiy I tend to want ALL THINGS to be NOW ya know.Its just hard for me right now & your words brought comfort 7 I think thats why I posted because I know this board & I know you guys will give the comfort I need right now.
Its scarey knowing that something is going on & not be able to JUST take something & fix it huh?The whole process of living a sober life at times still seems new to me.So many years if I felt sad,hell if I felt anything it was pop a bunch of pills & go numb.For this past year doing that hasnt been an option for me anymore ya know?I mean I take my Sub but its not something Im doing to try to get a buzz,THAT right there is something so new for me.
Guys I guess Im just going to be talking but any input you guys can give is important.I know that Ill end up discussing it with my Dr but just the knowledge that I can get from you all is important to me,,,,,
Hi Brooke thank you.I sort of know why in a way I feel this way.I do have depression so that is one reason I am on the antidees.I know this will pass,it just isnt going to happen NOW.As someone who has the addictive personalitiy I tend to want ALL THINGS to be NOW ya know.Its just hard for me right now & your words brought comfort 7 I think thats why I posted because I know this board & I know you guys will give the comfort I need right now.
Hi MJ,
I havent been on those meds so I cant answer for you. I would talk to the dr about it. I do know that you shouldnt just stop an antidepressant c/t. That happened to me when I was on wellbutrin once and just stopped. Hell I was seeing things..lol...I do have some sleep problems myself . I listen to sleep cds to help me fall asleep. They work pretty good for me. Anyway just wanted to offer you support. Take care and hang in there..
gi
I havent been on those meds so I cant answer for you. I would talk to the dr about it. I do know that you shouldnt just stop an antidepressant c/t. That happened to me when I was on wellbutrin once and just stopped. Hell I was seeing things..lol...I do have some sleep problems myself . I listen to sleep cds to help me fall asleep. They work pretty good for me. Anyway just wanted to offer you support. Take care and hang in there..
gi
Molly,
I took trazodone for a while, and prozac, zoloft, wellbutrin, serzone (but not effexor). My pill-pushing then psychiatrist and I kept casting about for the perfect chemical cocktail that would cure all of my ills and woes. My current shrink, Dr. M is so tight-fisted with his scrip pad. Used to piss me off that every time I asked him for a drug, he'd offer me more time first. Now I'm grateful for that.
I don't know why you're feeling the way you are because I never took effexor and I don't remember what, if anything, the trazodone did to me. But I hope once you get stabilized on whatever a/ds you decide are best for you, you'll think about giving therapy a go. I know we talked about this several months ago and I didn't know if you had pursued it any further. I have no doubt that in some cases, a/ds are a life-long necessity and I'm so glad they exist for those people. But in my case, once I got down to primary issues, I found I didn't need the a/ds anymore. It didn't happen all at once, though.
Hope you feel better soon, Molly.
Love,
Gina
I took trazodone for a while, and prozac, zoloft, wellbutrin, serzone (but not effexor). My pill-pushing then psychiatrist and I kept casting about for the perfect chemical cocktail that would cure all of my ills and woes. My current shrink, Dr. M is so tight-fisted with his scrip pad. Used to piss me off that every time I asked him for a drug, he'd offer me more time first. Now I'm grateful for that.
I don't know why you're feeling the way you are because I never took effexor and I don't remember what, if anything, the trazodone did to me. But I hope once you get stabilized on whatever a/ds you decide are best for you, you'll think about giving therapy a go. I know we talked about this several months ago and I didn't know if you had pursued it any further. I have no doubt that in some cases, a/ds are a life-long necessity and I'm so glad they exist for those people. But in my case, once I got down to primary issues, I found I didn't need the a/ds anymore. It didn't happen all at once, though.
Hope you feel better soon, Molly.
Love,
Gina
MJ, I am almost positive that stopping the Effexor c/t is what is making you sick. Can you talk to your doctor about putting you on Cymbalta? I take this at bedtime and it really helps. Many others here have gone on it too with much success. Keep talking to us girl, we will help you all that we can. Maybe Jeff will come along soon and talk to you. He has a ton of experience with both of the meds you are talking about, the trazadone and the suboxone. It could be that the Sub was keeping you awake at night. I've heard that it does that to some people and I real awhile back the dose you were on and it is a pretty hefty dose. Take Care MJ, we need you here just like you need us.
Thank you both Gs.Like I said I think the reason Im posting is just for what is happening.(Sob Sob again)Its so nice to know I can come here & so many of you can understand,relate & comfort.My family is good with the understanding,but they ?????arent you guys?
I know we talked about that therapy thing ,& ya know what???I freaking chickened out!!How dum was that?I mean I know I need to find the root of it all,but for some reason Im so scared to look that deep?I know how silly right.?What the heck am I so afraid of anyways?It would be so easy just to BS everyone & say yeah yeah Im in therapy,but I .....as crazy as this sounds I respect you all so much that Bsing you just isnt an option for me....
I know we talked about that therapy thing ,& ya know what???I freaking chickened out!!How dum was that?I mean I know I need to find the root of it all,but for some reason Im so scared to look that deep?I know how silly right.?What the heck am I so afraid of anyways?It would be so easy just to BS everyone & say yeah yeah Im in therapy,but I .....as crazy as this sounds I respect you all so much that Bsing you just isnt an option for me....
MJ,
Honey..your daughter doesnt hate you...CANT hate you...your her MOTHER...those are just growing pains.....have a good cry sweetie, let me absoltuely guarantee you that things will get better, that you will laugh and feel good again. I'll put my life on line and guarantee it with THAT....
BIG BEAR HUG that is tight and lasts 2 mins..
Ali
Honey..your daughter doesnt hate you...CANT hate you...your her MOTHER...those are just growing pains.....have a good cry sweetie, let me absoltuely guarantee you that things will get better, that you will laugh and feel good again. I'll put my life on line and guarantee it with THAT....
BIG BEAR HUG that is tight and lasts 2 mins..
Ali
p.s.
and dont you DARE apologize for needing help and comfort right now..im 2.5 weeks to this board and your name has been all over the place helping others.
Take it back when you need it yourself sweetie...thats why the board is here.
Love
Ali
and dont you DARE apologize for needing help and comfort right now..im 2.5 weeks to this board and your name has been all over the place helping others.
Take it back when you need it yourself sweetie...thats why the board is here.
Love
Ali
MJ
I'm surprised your doctor had you stop the effexor cold. It's possible what you're feeling is w/d from it. Kind of a rebound depression. Maybe if you stick it out it will pass in a couple of days. I know a couple of days sounds like forever but try if you can. When I stopped paxil I felt like crap but it went away. I have no idea what you can do for it. Maybe stay active? Go for a walk or something? Get those endorphins going. Hang in there. And never be ashamed to ask for help.
I'm surprised your doctor had you stop the effexor cold. It's possible what you're feeling is w/d from it. Kind of a rebound depression. Maybe if you stick it out it will pass in a couple of days. I know a couple of days sounds like forever but try if you can. When I stopped paxil I felt like crap but it went away. I have no idea what you can do for it. Maybe stay active? Go for a walk or something? Get those endorphins going. Hang in there. And never be ashamed to ask for help.
Hey Pam HOW ARE YOU???Thanks,ya know it seems like the major thing that Im learning from reading here today is that stopping the Effxor may be the core here.Not that all of me doesnt need help(lol)but it seems like stopping that CT wasnt too good.
I know your not suppose to take both effxor & the trzodone together,so how the heck would I do this anyways.
Pam can you tell me alittle more about the med you mentioned?
Yes my sub dose is pretty high.Could I be putting too much trust in my Dr?I dont know I really dont.
I do know that everyone that has posted so far has helped so much.
I think for me this is like the FIRST time I have ever opened myself up & bared my soul on here,why it took so long???I dont know.But this is why I have so much love for this whole board.Ive seen this before,someone hurting ,in need of friendship & this board bands together like a huge hug.
for me right now just talking is helping me feel less?????depressed...
I know your not suppose to take both effxor & the trzodone together,so how the heck would I do this anyways.
Pam can you tell me alittle more about the med you mentioned?
Yes my sub dose is pretty high.Could I be putting too much trust in my Dr?I dont know I really dont.
I do know that everyone that has posted so far has helped so much.
I think for me this is like the FIRST time I have ever opened myself up & bared my soul on here,why it took so long???I dont know.But this is why I have so much love for this whole board.Ive seen this before,someone hurting ,in need of friendship & this board bands together like a huge hug.
for me right now just talking is helping me feel less?????depressed...
Molly,
You've trusted me with some of your story so I know it's going to hard, painful work digging through your past in therapy. You took a run at it and backed off this time. That doesn't make you stupid or cowardly. It just means you're human, and on top of that honest which will serve you well in therapy in the long run. LOL, I wasted time shining my first shrink on about my perfect, privileged childhood.
I think, for me, I needed the a/ds at first, otherwise the panic would have kept me from working effectively in therapy. As I went on, I picked up other tools and didn't need the a/ds anymore. Get your a/ds stabilized first, Molly, and then worry about the therapy. I certainly didn't mention it to give you something else to beat yourself up over.
You're such a lovely person. I wish you could see yourself as we see you.
Love, Gina
You've trusted me with some of your story so I know it's going to hard, painful work digging through your past in therapy. You took a run at it and backed off this time. That doesn't make you stupid or cowardly. It just means you're human, and on top of that honest which will serve you well in therapy in the long run. LOL, I wasted time shining my first shrink on about my perfect, privileged childhood.
I think, for me, I needed the a/ds at first, otherwise the panic would have kept me from working effectively in therapy. As I went on, I picked up other tools and didn't need the a/ds anymore. Get your a/ds stabilized first, Molly, and then worry about the therapy. I certainly didn't mention it to give you something else to beat yourself up over.
You're such a lovely person. I wish you could see yourself as we see you.
Love, Gina
M.J I personally was saved by the serequel It has its side effects but for me its worth it.
I take cymbalta this is my second month. It helps with my sleep. Trazadone never helped me but some people sware by it.
M.J only you know what diet your on exercise vitamins diet and NO CAFFEINE at all. No Junk food fiulled with bad sugars.
I eat soy products fruit nuts instead of chocolate. Not easy but all this will help you sleep.
Jeff
I take cymbalta this is my second month. It helps with my sleep. Trazadone never helped me but some people sware by it.
M.J only you know what diet your on exercise vitamins diet and NO CAFFEINE at all. No Junk food fiulled with bad sugars.
I eat soy products fruit nuts instead of chocolate. Not easy but all this will help you sleep.
Jeff
