My DOC was hydrocodone and i took 12-18 a day.
Im now on Suboxone. Today is day 20 !! Life is Great !
Good for you soberdaddy!!!!
My DOC was norcos(vicodin 10/325's)
I was taking between 25-30 at the end,5 at a time.
I was clean(CT)once for just over 3 months,that was the longest ever,before i started sub 6 months ago.
Since then(6 months ago) ive been clean,with no desire,cravings,etc..to use.
It started about 4 years ago(at the age of 41-42)i was dependent on them at first,and within a fairly short time became addicted to them,full force,and within 2 years was completely sick and tired of them!
My DOC was norcos(vicodin 10/325's)
I was taking between 25-30 at the end,5 at a time.
I was clean(CT)once for just over 3 months,that was the longest ever,before i started sub 6 months ago.
Since then(6 months ago) ive been clean,with no desire,cravings,etc..to use.
It started about 4 years ago(at the age of 41-42)i was dependent on them at first,and within a fairly short time became addicted to them,full force,and within 2 years was completely sick and tired of them!
Soberdaddy
Hope you dont mind my saying so, but personally i think that it is dangerous to post how many of our DOC we took....it would be so easy for a person to come here, read this thread and compare themselves..
They may well see it as an excuse to continue their downward spiral...they may think that comparatively...they aren't doing that many so cant be that bad...
I just dont think its a good idea...
Hugs
Ali
Hope you dont mind my saying so, but personally i think that it is dangerous to post how many of our DOC we took....it would be so easy for a person to come here, read this thread and compare themselves..
They may well see it as an excuse to continue their downward spiral...they may think that comparatively...they aren't doing that many so cant be that bad...
I just dont think its a good idea...
Hugs
Ali
Good lord Ali, this board is full of 'how many we took a day' and what the doc was.
The recovery stories alone on the other forum states the above.
Someone reading this board is already in the helms of addiction. I believe you have also said on here how many and what you were taking. So how does this thread differ?
Not trying to start anything, just wanting to know the rational behind your thoughts, with people including me you and others have said numerous times how many and what we have ingested.
The recovery stories alone on the other forum states the above.
Someone reading this board is already in the helms of addiction. I believe you have also said on here how many and what you were taking. So how does this thread differ?
Not trying to start anything, just wanting to know the rational behind your thoughts, with people including me you and others have said numerous times how many and what we have ingested.
Ali,
I would have to agree with Brooke on this one sweetie. This board is ALL ABOUT how much everyone took a day and what they took . I mean come on look around. Oldtimer's and newcomer's post about their addiction. That includes what medications they took and how much they took on a daily basis.
I know people compare themselves to other's, that is only normal. I see someone that takes or has taken 20-30 pills a day and I say " WOW", dang that's a lot of pills. If I were to take that many pills at any given time, I would probably have overdosed. My tolerance stayed the same for YEARS for the most part.
Just because someone has taken 50 pills a day doesn't mean I want to be like them and go take 50 pills. I don't think damn I am special because I didn't take that many either. Everyone here is different but we all have ONE THING IN COMMON. We are ALL addicts or recovering addicts.
How many times have you told us your drug of choice and how much you were taking? I think I remember you telling us you took Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) and were taking a lot of them in a day. Trust me you didn't trigger me to use and I highly doubt anyone else thought dang I want to be like Ali and take hand fulls of pills.
Soberdaddy,
My drug of choice has been a few different things over the past 10 years. I was prescibed Methadone back in 2000 and took that until 2002. I took between 20-30 mgs a day at the very most. I was on Percocet before that and found later on that I was allergic to it. It gives me hives like you wouldn't believe. The medication I was on the longest was Vicodin.
Good Topic..
Everyone have a good day..
Rae
I would have to agree with Brooke on this one sweetie. This board is ALL ABOUT how much everyone took a day and what they took . I mean come on look around. Oldtimer's and newcomer's post about their addiction. That includes what medications they took and how much they took on a daily basis.
I know people compare themselves to other's, that is only normal. I see someone that takes or has taken 20-30 pills a day and I say " WOW", dang that's a lot of pills. If I were to take that many pills at any given time, I would probably have overdosed. My tolerance stayed the same for YEARS for the most part.
Just because someone has taken 50 pills a day doesn't mean I want to be like them and go take 50 pills. I don't think damn I am special because I didn't take that many either. Everyone here is different but we all have ONE THING IN COMMON. We are ALL addicts or recovering addicts.
How many times have you told us your drug of choice and how much you were taking? I think I remember you telling us you took Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) and were taking a lot of them in a day. Trust me you didn't trigger me to use and I highly doubt anyone else thought dang I want to be like Ali and take hand fulls of pills.
Soberdaddy,
My drug of choice has been a few different things over the past 10 years. I was prescibed Methadone back in 2000 and took that until 2002. I took between 20-30 mgs a day at the very most. I was on Percocet before that and found later on that I was allergic to it. It gives me hives like you wouldn't believe. The medication I was on the longest was Vicodin.
Good Topic..
Everyone have a good day..
Rae
Soberdaddy....First & foremost I wanted to say GOOD FOR YOU & Im so glad your doing so well.My life has gotten so busy Im not on here as much as I would like to but it makes me happy to sign on & see how well your doing...KEEP IT UP
As for me,well as I said in another post I think I could even get addicted to Tic Tacs.Ive used & abuse everything except"E
My main posion was opiates,in any form.
What brought me to this board (though Ill never understand why & why that day)was doing 20+ Ultrams a day....along with anything else my greedy hands could get.
2 years on Sub & some fallbacks Im now a much stronger better woman than I have ever been.I am no longer controlled by pills.
Anyways KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK SD!!!!
molly
As for me,well as I said in another post I think I could even get addicted to Tic Tacs.Ive used & abuse everything except"E
My main posion was opiates,in any form.
What brought me to this board (though Ill never understand why & why that day)was doing 20+ Ultrams a day....along with anything else my greedy hands could get.
2 years on Sub & some fallbacks Im now a much stronger better woman than I have ever been.I am no longer controlled by pills.
Anyways KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK SD!!!!
molly
I thought the board was for talking about recovery, not using. We all know how to use but not that many know how to stay clean. Personally I think talking about how much and when and what is boring. I want to talk about what people do to stay clean not what they did when life revolved around a pill. What good is that?
12 stepper,
I have to respectfully disagree. How healthy is it to someones recovery to ignore what got us here in the first place and pretend it didn't happen????
My life was FULL of secrets and lies for years. I am SO TIRED of secrets and lies it makes me sick. Ignoring our use and pretending it didn't happen just feels like a bunch more lies.
That being said......
I used Norco 10/325's for years, I have been up to as many as 60 - 90 a day. Yes, that many.
peaceout
I have to respectfully disagree. How healthy is it to someones recovery to ignore what got us here in the first place and pretend it didn't happen????
My life was FULL of secrets and lies for years. I am SO TIRED of secrets and lies it makes me sick. Ignoring our use and pretending it didn't happen just feels like a bunch more lies.
That being said......
I used Norco 10/325's for years, I have been up to as many as 60 - 90 a day. Yes, that many.
peaceout
I often forget this is not like meetings and shouldn't be treated like one. At meetings we don't dwell on using. No one cares how you got to AA/NA, just that you got there. We use our experience, strength and hope to help others but I'm not sure how talking about how many or what kind of drugs we took is beneficial to anyone. I've read here where newcomers say talking about different kinds of drugs by name is a trigger for them and like Ali said, if I read here that you took 50 pills and I was only taking 40 I would think "well I'm not that bad yet" and keep on using. But that's just me and how I used to think. It says in the big book, "We will not regret the past, nor wish to shut the door on it. We will see how our experience can benefit others. " If talking about what and how much helps a newcomer then by all means, post away.
Morning SB.......
Being a newcomer I was so so very curious as to what and how much people were using too...I know that you are just interested in comparing your use with others...perhaps as a way feeling "normal"...or to see if you will "make it" This thread is entirely relevant! So don't mind Ali .... last I was here...you were disgusted with this forum and the majority of its members and were "out of here!"....
Anyway...I started innocently taking about 1 or 2 pills a day....for medical reasons...however...they were NOT prescribed to me....my husband was get 120 5/325 percs every 14 days....and near the end....I was literally compelling HIM to go to HIS doctor and get more...or fain that they weren't working...so I he was also getting me...morphine...oxcycodone....and oxycotin...yep....like they say some are sicker than others...that was me!!!
Near the end I was taking whatever I could get my hands on...and before getting on subs...its almost 3 months...I was taking near 20-30 pills a DAY....depending on the day...how much was left in the script!
Your doing great....good to see you stick around and as time goes by...you will perhaps know every ones story!
Being a newcomer I was so so very curious as to what and how much people were using too...I know that you are just interested in comparing your use with others...perhaps as a way feeling "normal"...or to see if you will "make it" This thread is entirely relevant! So don't mind Ali .... last I was here...you were disgusted with this forum and the majority of its members and were "out of here!"....
Anyway...I started innocently taking about 1 or 2 pills a day....for medical reasons...however...they were NOT prescribed to me....my husband was get 120 5/325 percs every 14 days....and near the end....I was literally compelling HIM to go to HIS doctor and get more...or fain that they weren't working...so I he was also getting me...morphine...oxcycodone....and oxycotin...yep....like they say some are sicker than others...that was me!!!
Near the end I was taking whatever I could get my hands on...and before getting on subs...its almost 3 months...I was taking near 20-30 pills a DAY....depending on the day...how much was left in the script!
Your doing great....good to see you stick around and as time goes by...you will perhaps know every ones story!
12 stepper,
Gotcha.
I understand where you are coming from with people comparing their use to others and thinking they are OK. I have used that as a rationalization myself before .
You also wrote:
I often forget this is not like meetings and shouldn't be treated like one.
I couldn't agree more. I go to NA, but it is MY PERSONAL OPINON that there is more to MY recovery than just the dogmatic approach of the program. For ME that approach misses things. I personally have a hard time with being powerless over my own actions. No one MADE me put pills in my mouth, I was free at any time to choose to stop. I always chose to keep going, keep popping, keep getting high and hiding from the world.
I am very glad that it works for other people, I am a firm believer in people using whatever works for them to stay clean.
peacout
Gotcha.
I understand where you are coming from with people comparing their use to others and thinking they are OK. I have used that as a rationalization myself before .
You also wrote:
I often forget this is not like meetings and shouldn't be treated like one.
I couldn't agree more. I go to NA, but it is MY PERSONAL OPINON that there is more to MY recovery than just the dogmatic approach of the program. For ME that approach misses things. I personally have a hard time with being powerless over my own actions. No one MADE me put pills in my mouth, I was free at any time to choose to stop. I always chose to keep going, keep popping, keep getting high and hiding from the world.
I am very glad that it works for other people, I am a firm believer in people using whatever works for them to stay clean.
peacout
I've been to meetings where people went on at length about their former drug use, and no one thought anything of it. The information was always delivered in order to highlight the insanity of past behaviors. None of the stories I heard ever made me want to go out and get wasted again. Quite the contrary.
A couple of these folks had been clean for over a decade and went to meetings more than twice a week. But maybe the Fellowship is different in NZ.
Cheers,
Gina
A couple of these folks had been clean for over a decade and went to meetings more than twice a week. But maybe the Fellowship is different in NZ.
Cheers,
Gina
I just want to point out that when a newbie comes here, more often than not, they are asked to tell their story, type of drug and amount per day and how long they have used. JMHO
Yes...meetings focus on recovery! But I have to disagree that it is the whole focus...everyday..someone shares about there experience..which of course includes the details of how they were!
This is my opion about this forum.
When I first got here, I needed to talk about every aspect of my disease an d that included, how much and when. Now that I've been here awhile and am clean , I only feel it necesarry to talk about hope and strength, just like I do in meetings.
So, maybe Kat, we let the newcomers say what ever it is to keep them talking and then us "oldtimers" share a solution?
Big hugs to all....
When I first got here, I needed to talk about every aspect of my disease an d that included, how much and when. Now that I've been here awhile and am clean , I only feel it necesarry to talk about hope and strength, just like I do in meetings.
So, maybe Kat, we let the newcomers say what ever it is to keep them talking and then us "oldtimers" share a solution?
Big hugs to all....
I agree Lisa.
You can't expect newcomers to be already in the solution .It doesn't work that fast.
If after a year you are still obsessing about your DOC and quanities,somethings not working.
Welcome Detroit Johnny and feel free to talk about what you need to.There are plenty of people here that are willing to help you and hopefully give you some solutions.
I'm glad to see you going to NA.Have you got a sponsor yet?
And yes, even in NA meetings people go off on drugalogues.I catch myself doing it at times.I think it sometimes has more to do with qualifying ourselves than glorifying drug use.
It does help me to have people reign my stuff in too.I can't take it personally.
You can't expect newcomers to be already in the solution .It doesn't work that fast.
If after a year you are still obsessing about your DOC and quanities,somethings not working.
Welcome Detroit Johnny and feel free to talk about what you need to.There are plenty of people here that are willing to help you and hopefully give you some solutions.
I'm glad to see you going to NA.Have you got a sponsor yet?
And yes, even in NA meetings people go off on drugalogues.I catch myself doing it at times.I think it sometimes has more to do with qualifying ourselves than glorifying drug use.
It does help me to have people reign my stuff in too.I can't take it personally.
I've heard meetings are a tad different in different areas/regions...alas, I say secretary and Kat says chairperson (Florida) but I think they are run similar in overall format...
I secretary the Thursday Night Group and we always have a chairperson whom is asked to share their experience, strength and hope....everyone's share is different but not only do they share what is was like, they then share what happened and what it's like now....so basically, they play the tape all the way through to the end...I am always careful not to glorify my using/drinking and to always remember where alcohol and drugs took me and share what it's like now and how I work on my recovery today.....
I secretary the Thursday Night Group and we always have a chairperson whom is asked to share their experience, strength and hope....everyone's share is different but not only do they share what is was like, they then share what happened and what it's like now....so basically, they play the tape all the way through to the end...I am always careful not to glorify my using/drinking and to always remember where alcohol and drugs took me and share what it's like now and how I work on my recovery today.....
Dammit, Lisa, you mean I can't have it my way? I like what you said, KeeKee, about the newcomer needing to identify with others. I forget about things like that. You guys are right. I am wrong.
smooches
smooches
Stacey quotes-
That's the key.Don't get stuck on Chapter 1.
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| they play the tape all the way through to the end |
That's the key.Don't get stuck on Chapter 1.
Hi There
I guess I was wrong...
sorry about that ..Sber Daddy and all...
I didnt think of it that way..i know that we mention it the odd time in the middle of a thread, but just thought that a thread DEDICATED to it was not good for people that peruse but dont post...
Sorry to have made such a stupid comment..Rae , , Brooke thanks for making me see the other side...didnt think it all the way through...
I'll go back to my corner again..lol
Hugs
Ali
I guess I was wrong...
sorry about that ..Sber Daddy and all...
I didnt think of it that way..i know that we mention it the odd time in the middle of a thread, but just thought that a thread DEDICATED to it was not good for people that peruse but dont post...
Sorry to have made such a stupid comment..Rae , , Brooke thanks for making me see the other side...didnt think it all the way through...
I'll go back to my corner again..lol
Hugs
Ali
