Thankyou jacky, u are a good supportive friend! i know im doing my best now, and am trying to psych my brain into postive thinking for next friday when i come down 1! and im trying so hard now, if i wasnt i wouldnt take the insults so defensivly.....thanx again for ur support!! xxxxx
HIya hun what you have to do is take care of you cus no one else will hun and life is far too short to miss it. anyway you owe me a update lol so il be expecting a email (((((hugs))))) jackie xxxxx
just sent u an email jacky its real hot in Oz tonight....im off for now catcha later xx
Nah, don't worry about what i said i have changed my mind because i am going to let you all know about my progress as i go along as i AM doing the taper. And on september 1st i will be able to come in here and say to all the non believers esp kiwi ''I did it so up yours ha'' .
If you were honest with your psychiatrist and told him/her that you are addicted to benzos, that you can not control your usage for any meaningful length of time, that you've been trying unsuccessfully to taper off them for at least 7 months, and then your psychiatrist still prescribed you an anti-depressant, pain pills for your headaches, a daily regimen of 4mg xanax and 15 mg valium, and set up a "slow taper" benzo plan over the course of 6 months --- sorry, but I would find an addictionologist or some other doctor that understands addiction. That's a prescription for failure for an addict, imho, and I am assuming you are an addict. I do wish you success, as I do all addicts on this Board, but I think we need to screen for success in the recovery plans we choose: if we don't, we just set ourselves up for failure, and as those failures build up, hope diminishes. That can be lethal. I won't comment any more. I do not wish to discourage your true and admirable desire to get clean. I wish you the best elvis.
thanku for wishing me the best none4me, its not my phsyciatrist precribing the xanax and valium my g.p has them going through a chemist so i cant get my hands on too many in one go! and it was me before who never really had the drive or the want to come off....i was always being pushed, but now i really want to do it, ive had enough of them controlling my life!! my phsyciatrist knows how im tapering off and hes given me this goal to work towards, i never had a goal before and now that i do im more determined than ever!! im being honest with everyone for the first time and doing what im told for the first time too, and these new anti depressants seems to be helping me, i think they have finally found the right one for me! so i am going to this, believe it or not! take care
p.s my pshyc is a also a specialist in addiction and is also watching over my taper and u have to come off benzos very slowly, the slower the better! if uve ever had anything to do with benzos u would know that! all the best...
p.s my pshyc is a also a specialist in addiction and is also watching over my taper and u have to come off benzos very slowly, the slower the better! if uve ever had anything to do with benzos u would know that! all the best...
Just so everyone gets this right and understands.....im tapering off BENZO'S NOT PAIN PILLS, as ive had some people saying to me, gee 6 months is a long time to come off pain pills, im coming off benzos, and u HAVE to come off them VERY SLOWLY!!!!!!! the slower the better! anyone who knows anything about benzos would know this! ok i just wanted to fix up the confusion there! all good! take care!
p.s i come down my first 1mg of xanax this friday!!!!!!! :))
p.s i come down my first 1mg of xanax this friday!!!!!!! :))
Look Elvis,I am sure that this is what None is trying to say,just read and think about it,
Maybe the people who have you on this taper arent the best ones available,why dont you go to someone who specilises in addiction,say all of that stuff that None said above about what you are taking and see what a specilist in addiction says about the taper you are on,maybe you will find,that the way you are doing it is the best way to do it,but maybe you will find that their is a better taper available that will deal to your problems a lot quicker.
In the end most people here only want you to be free from your addiction if that is truly what you want.
Be open to suggestions and have a look around,if those doctors that are doing this taper for you are the ones who helped you into this situation,maybe they arent the brightest lights on the block.
Good luck Aussie,do it for you first.
Maybe the people who have you on this taper arent the best ones available,why dont you go to someone who specilises in addiction,say all of that stuff that None said above about what you are taking and see what a specilist in addiction says about the taper you are on,maybe you will find,that the way you are doing it is the best way to do it,but maybe you will find that their is a better taper available that will deal to your problems a lot quicker.
In the end most people here only want you to be free from your addiction if that is truly what you want.
Be open to suggestions and have a look around,if those doctors that are doing this taper for you are the ones who helped you into this situation,maybe they arent the brightest lights on the block.
Good luck Aussie,do it for you first.
Thankyou phantom for your advice. Just to let you know though that the both doctors i am under, are my G.P and my Psychiatrist and both of these doctors know my full history very well, they are both very aware of what has been going on in the past. And my psychiatrist is also an addiction specialist. He has now given me the goal of september 1st and my G.P has them going through the chemist. We have agreed that i come off my first xanax this friday, this time im really going for it, i have all the help i need, and a little bit of support from you guys would be great too. As there are some great people on this page and id really love to be able just to check in from time to time and update on my progress without all the questions. I really hope i have cleared this up now, once and for all. Thankyou take care.
Dear Elvis Im real sorry Ive been MIA but I know you kinda understand my priority right now is here at home.I have been reading your post.KIWI didnt mean harm.But you need to just keep working on you.Not everyone will agree with your way.but if it works for you thats the important thing.I hope you take care...yes I get your letters.Hang in there kiddo. luv mj
Cool,I will be following your progress all the way,I hope you can make it as it is really worth it to be able to look at the world without the opiate haze that I allways thought was so cool.
Please dont bite back at people,as some have said,actions speak louder then words for people like us,just do it and do it for yourself first,but yes it will be nice for you to be able to say I told you I could lol.
Please dont bite back at people,as some have said,actions speak louder then words for people like us,just do it and do it for yourself first,but yes it will be nice for you to be able to say I told you I could lol.
wow.... touchy. Glad all the knifes are put away.
Elvis,
I know you're in a struggle right now. From what I've read it seems as if you're brain is having a power struggle within itself. It sounds like you do want off the rollercoaster, but you've said that same thing before and your actions spoke differently (doctor shopping). I think this is why several posters sound frustrated with you. I love the advice of taking what you need from this board (and in life, really) and leaving the rest. I don't think people were trying to be negative to you, just their way of giving you a reality check, maybe? You don't have to leave the forum. You will still have support here from people who do care and who are in the same boat as you along with others who are further down the river. We can learn from them. I know that being brutally honest with youself is not easy, trust me--I've been the Queen of Denial. Last night at my outpatient meeting the counselor said, "You're not responsible for your disease, but you are responsible for your recovery." That really hit home with me. It sounds like you're taking steps to get off the benzos in a way that may work for you. Only you know this about yourself. I wish you only the best of luck and success. Hopefully, after September, you'll be a member of the board who can share the slow tapering experience with others and share your insights about the struggles and successes of recovery. You can do it. Stay strong and positive!
Julz
I know you're in a struggle right now. From what I've read it seems as if you're brain is having a power struggle within itself. It sounds like you do want off the rollercoaster, but you've said that same thing before and your actions spoke differently (doctor shopping). I think this is why several posters sound frustrated with you. I love the advice of taking what you need from this board (and in life, really) and leaving the rest. I don't think people were trying to be negative to you, just their way of giving you a reality check, maybe? You don't have to leave the forum. You will still have support here from people who do care and who are in the same boat as you along with others who are further down the river. We can learn from them. I know that being brutally honest with youself is not easy, trust me--I've been the Queen of Denial. Last night at my outpatient meeting the counselor said, "You're not responsible for your disease, but you are responsible for your recovery." That really hit home with me. It sounds like you're taking steps to get off the benzos in a way that may work for you. Only you know this about yourself. I wish you only the best of luck and success. Hopefully, after September, you'll be a member of the board who can share the slow tapering experience with others and share your insights about the struggles and successes of recovery. You can do it. Stay strong and positive!
Julz
Hey Elvis,
I haven't been around for a few days. Just wanted to send you out some support. No giving up on you, for any reason.....Friday will be your first big test and I bet that you will pass with flying colors......
I have great faith in you and wish you nothing but the best.
Love,
Tina
I haven't been around for a few days. Just wanted to send you out some support. No giving up on you, for any reason.....Friday will be your first big test and I bet that you will pass with flying colors......
I have great faith in you and wish you nothing but the best.
Love,
Tina
Hey mj, phantom, kaela, julz, mistyeyes thanx for the support, i saw my pshyc today and told him im coming down 1mg friday! give me coping strategies please! lol and he said to me "u are always trying to avoid anxiety, u will probably get anxious when u see that there are not as many there but u need to experience that anxiety and get through it instead of taking a pill and running away from it all the time", and he taught me some breathing excercises!
i thought god this pshyc of mine has been a proffessor is an addiction specialist and when i ask for a coping strategy he says i have to experience the anxiety LOL!!! but i do get what he is saying!! he is a very brilliant man! so, yes please ya'll do think of me friday going off my nut......only for a little while lol ill settle down after a while (when i realise no one is paying me any attention) just like a chimp in the zoo!! LOL!!! take care xx
p.s oh lots of elvis being played at my place fri, his voice always soothes me! aaaahhhh :))
i thought god this pshyc of mine has been a proffessor is an addiction specialist and when i ask for a coping strategy he says i have to experience the anxiety LOL!!! but i do get what he is saying!! he is a very brilliant man! so, yes please ya'll do think of me friday going off my nut......only for a little while lol ill settle down after a while (when i realise no one is paying me any attention) just like a chimp in the zoo!! LOL!!! take care xx
p.s oh lots of elvis being played at my place fri, his voice always soothes me! aaaahhhh :))
my mum also saw her nut psyhc today, that guy really is a nut, he will prescribe u anything im glad im not under him anymore he uses my mum like a guinea pig, shes on about 14 tofranil a day and something else and now he has also put her back on valium. I said to her please dont tell me these things! like i think u guys will understand. i said to her, valium is one of the things ill be coming off and it doesnt really help me psycologically a great lot to know u have 50 of em sitting in ur bedroom!!! its like being an alcoholic please dont put alcohol in the fridge u know when ur trying to stop drinking. she said well i cant help what he puts me on. i told her i know this but in future please refrain from telling me and just keep them in ur drawer or something it would be much appreciated. im trying real hard just u dont need that temptation there u know? maybe uve had a bad day? or ur in the mind of ive had enough of this?! etc etc so its better if i dont know they are their i think!!!! ok take care xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
E if i were you hun i would be seriously considering moving out and standing on my own two feet, getting into recovery getting clean then addressing my mums proplems. there is not one excuse that would stop you doing that, Money (get a job) Age (grow up and find somewhere to live) Instabilty (get stable) These thngs are not beyound anyones reach with the right help and encouragement. You scrambling far to many problems together hun instead of concentrating on you and whats best for you, very rarely do i say get off your butt but in thsi cae i say it loud and clear GET OFF YOUR BUTT and save yourself whilst you still have a life to have. Waiting for miricles wont help you need to take direct action, thats why im suggesting you take yourself away from that enviroment there are far to many excuses you can use to use. It breaks my heart to see a young life wasted. There are lots of us on here who have been addicts for more years then we care to remember DO something.
because i care very much jackie xxxxxxxxxxxx
because i care very much jackie xxxxxxxxxxxx
Jacky this is the first time in months i actually have got off my butt.......the social phobia is a crushing thing that my phsyc is helping me with now and he has given me these 'tasks' to do everyday. so im out of the house everyday. im addressing my addiction problem at the moment too! thats why ive been to see the phsyc and i have my goal now, i know i have to move out but i need to work on these two issues first! how am i gonna get a job, seriously when i find it hard even to go to the shopping mall? i have to get over that! and i dont think i need to address my mums problems, her problems are hers all ive asked her to do is put her pills away......im doing alot better than i was a few weeks ago!! thanx for caring!
E i know your trying hun im not on your case just trying to get you to make a move in the right direction and look at what your options are. jackie xxxx
thankyou jackie!! and i do appreciate u and love u for supporting me!!!!! xxxxx
ok off for the night now ill check in tomorrow have a good one guys!
ok off for the night now ill check in tomorrow have a good one guys!
