Ok, for those of you that don't remember me you probably know my mom Petsmom. I was hear about 1yr ago having admitted to an increasing addiction to hydrocodone for a chronic pain treatment of my back that was injured in a car wreck in 1992. So last you saw me I went into a 3 day detox with continued suboxene treatment but that didn't help the pain so we tried 3 or 4 other non-narcotic meds and they didn't work either soooo they put me back on narcotics spec. fentyl 25mcg patch. I feel like what the hell did I go through all of that for to just go back to where I started.
Anyway I resumed my life in May and lasted in the "real world" exactly 5 months before I cracked from stress of drugs and job stress..which brings me to today. I was able to get a 3month medical leave from my job to take an aggressive exercise approach again and now my time is up, I am due to go back to work in retail sales as a manager next week and guess what???? I still have all the same problems I had when I went on leave!
During the medical leave I decided to seek mental help as I am sooo depressed at all of this I am prone to random crying outbursts and just behavior that is not cool with me. The shrink that I see doesn't seem to have a clue how to help me and problem is I am so tired of telling this story over for years that I don't want to start over yet again. So this brings me to the here and now...I have an appt. with this shrink tomorrow I want suggestions on what I should say to him that basically tells him "Hey wake up because I am asking for help here and I feel like you aren't giving me any". Of course the solution I would like is to be cured of the pain and not have to take any drugs at all anymore, I know thats not realistic so I have been told but something is wrong with me and I need help.
pets
Pets- Not trying to be flip or anything but this might work: "Hey wake up because I am asking for help here and I feel like you aren't giving me any".
Tell them what you really think. If they don't respond, find another therapist.
Tell them what you really think. If they don't respond, find another therapist.
I'm so happy to see you posting. Don't beat yourself up, sweetie. Not everyone can live without pain management. I know you have suffered through major trauma. When you came here you were taking lethal amounts of hydrocodone and were at risk because of that, and still not getting relief. You were running out of meds and constantly suffering. You didn't do it all for nothing. You needed to detox to properly evaluate your pain level, and to try other options.
I have to agree that you may be better off finding another therapist. Perhaps one who specializes in chronic pain? Be honest with your current therapist. tell him/her you don't feel like you have improved.
Important thing is to keep trying. Maybe you could see a nutritionist? I've been reading a lot lately about amino acids and their role in mental and physical health. I wish I had the answer for you. Just keep exploring every possible avenue available. Educate yourself as much as possible and keep trying.
Are there any chronic pain support groups in your area?
I'll keep you in my thoughts. Welcome back.
I have to agree that you may be better off finding another therapist. Perhaps one who specializes in chronic pain? Be honest with your current therapist. tell him/her you don't feel like you have improved.
Important thing is to keep trying. Maybe you could see a nutritionist? I've been reading a lot lately about amino acids and their role in mental and physical health. I wish I had the answer for you. Just keep exploring every possible avenue available. Educate yourself as much as possible and keep trying.
Are there any chronic pain support groups in your area?
I'll keep you in my thoughts. Welcome back.
Or maybe I should get my mom to type a script of this whole mess and shop it around to shrinks to see who "might" be interested in my problems. I'm laughing but it really isn't funny, I am having serious mental issues.
Hi Pets...first of all you are so lucky to have your mom on your side. She is an amazing woman. We should all be that lucky to have that kind of support and encouragment.
I'm not a dr or a mental health specialist but I do know pain pills. Your depression is caused from the use and abuse of pain meds for all these years. Think about it, how could all of those chemicals in your brain NOT caused depression and all kinds of pyscological problems?
Kiddo, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. You need the pills for chronic pain but you are an addict in every true sense of the word. I just don't have any answers for you.
Is the pain that unbearable that you can't live with it? How long did you try to live with it?
Take care
CG
I'm not a dr or a mental health specialist but I do know pain pills. Your depression is caused from the use and abuse of pain meds for all these years. Think about it, how could all of those chemicals in your brain NOT caused depression and all kinds of pyscological problems?
Kiddo, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. You need the pills for chronic pain but you are an addict in every true sense of the word. I just don't have any answers for you.
Is the pain that unbearable that you can't live with it? How long did you try to live with it?
Take care
CG
Just read the post on how you feel about this board. Love you too, more than you can ever know (even though I tell you and tell you1!!) Wish I could take your pain away and have the knowledge you so badly need. ((((((Hugs)))))) and loads of LOVE,
Mom
Mom
Pets........
So good to see you here posting, Your mom is a huge asset to this board as well.
I hope you dont mind my asking...........How much suboxone were you taking daily to try to control your pain? Did they try to do any injections as well? Where is the pain?
I am asking this because there are a few at my Sub dr. that are on sub strictly for Pain Mgmt, and some are on some fairly heavy doses and are also giving injections at the site of the pain. It could be your dose was not nearly high enough? Sub is something that you and your dr. really have to work at to get the right dose, but once you do it is well worth it.
I had a car accident a couple of years back and have steel pins in my hand and fingers, and sub has helped my pain quite a bit.
But we are all different, Did you have a car accident (If I remember correctly?)
So glad to see you here. Hang in there.
Hugs.
So good to see you here posting, Your mom is a huge asset to this board as well.
I hope you dont mind my asking...........How much suboxone were you taking daily to try to control your pain? Did they try to do any injections as well? Where is the pain?
I am asking this because there are a few at my Sub dr. that are on sub strictly for Pain Mgmt, and some are on some fairly heavy doses and are also giving injections at the site of the pain. It could be your dose was not nearly high enough? Sub is something that you and your dr. really have to work at to get the right dose, but once you do it is well worth it.
I had a car accident a couple of years back and have steel pins in my hand and fingers, and sub has helped my pain quite a bit.
But we are all different, Did you have a car accident (If I remember correctly?)
So glad to see you here. Hang in there.
Hugs.
Java,
If I remember correctly, she was on a very, very high amount. The maximum or close to it.
Pets,
I hope you come back and post some more. We miss you here. Yes, our mom has been invaluable here. You are both lucky to have each other.
If I remember correctly, she was on a very, very high amount. The maximum or close to it.
Pets,
I hope you come back and post some more. We miss you here. Yes, our mom has been invaluable here. You are both lucky to have each other.
Hey Pets I agree with Jodigirl its so great to see you posting.
Im so sorry for how your feeling & hope that you can get helped.
So many Dr are in it for not so good reasons.
My suggestion to you & I know it may not be easy to do but I would fire this Dr & try another.Pets it may take a couple times & a couple different Drs before you find someone you just will FEEL is right for you.
I feel if your seeing someone thats hurting you more than helping than you have NOTHING to lose by finding a new Dr.
I wish you all the best & hope to see you post more.
I know depression first hand & though Lord knows you have so much to make you feel depressed,I also see a woman who no longer wants to let this depression control your life.
Best of luck to you.
molly
Im so sorry for how your feeling & hope that you can get helped.
So many Dr are in it for not so good reasons.
My suggestion to you & I know it may not be easy to do but I would fire this Dr & try another.Pets it may take a couple times & a couple different Drs before you find someone you just will FEEL is right for you.
I feel if your seeing someone thats hurting you more than helping than you have NOTHING to lose by finding a new Dr.
I wish you all the best & hope to see you post more.
I know depression first hand & though Lord knows you have so much to make you feel depressed,I also see a woman who no longer wants to let this depression control your life.
Best of luck to you.
molly
Hey ya MJ.............Just messaged you on the goos and emailed ya :)
Atlas- Thanks for the info there............Well now I am curious if they have tried any type of injections at the sight of the pain, or done any type of physical therapy.They did this with me after my wreck and it helped ALOT. But again, I dont know what is causing your pain, and what type of injuries you have. . And for me as a rule, pain meds did make my pain level go up, as Ironic as that sounds. Or maybe it was just my brain making up pain so I could have more pills, who knows.
Pets...........Please post when you can, I know how frustrating this must be for you, no one should have to live in constant pain.
Hugs.
Atlas- Thanks for the info there............Well now I am curious if they have tried any type of injections at the sight of the pain, or done any type of physical therapy.They did this with me after my wreck and it helped ALOT. But again, I dont know what is causing your pain, and what type of injuries you have. . And for me as a rule, pain meds did make my pain level go up, as Ironic as that sounds. Or maybe it was just my brain making up pain so I could have more pills, who knows.
Pets...........Please post when you can, I know how frustrating this must be for you, no one should have to live in constant pain.
Hugs.
Group, thanks for the input. She's seeing the psychiatrist today (between her tears). She's had Prolo therapy....injections of saline into the nerve branches (to the best of my knowledge and I think it was $800 a shot). It helped in some areas, but she still has one very stubborn area that resists treatment. She's also tried pain clinics, detox clinic, acupuncture and (I can't think of the word, but it's like chiropractic, only they're doctors). She feels she's at the end of her rope. Because she's in Maine, they don't have welfare, so she has to work and she can't. I have asked her to apply for disability, but she doesn't want to. I really think that's what she needs to do.
Thanks so much for caring. She needs to know that she has support. (((Hugss to all))))))
Thanks so much for caring. She needs to know that she has support. (((Hugss to all))))))
Petsmom- You are so supportive and so good to see you standing right by her side..............Your a great mom, that is for sure.
What type of injury did she have? a car accident? Hope you dont mind my asking, I couldnt remember for sure.
Big Hugs.
What type of injury did she have? a car accident? Hope you dont mind my asking, I couldnt remember for sure.
Big Hugs.
Worse than a car accident....an accident in which she had no blame. It happened when she was visiting NYS and she was sitting at a red light when a lady came down a one way street the wrong way (after having had a fight with her boyfriend and being in a bar for 4 hours) and rammed into the back of her car and left the scene. By the time the police caught up with her, a breatholizer didn't help. Pets went to a lawyer and after a couple of years of her having to come from Maine for depositions and the like, the lawyer finally told her she'd have to stop pressing charges because he couldn't afford to send a lawyer to Maine to get depositions from her doctors there. Talk about unfair? Each time she came from Maine, she had to take time off from her job and drive the 5 hours to get here and 5 hours back.....with a bad back, yet.
Oh my..............That is just horrible. The woman left the scene? That is so cruel! My god......
Was she hospitalized? This woman should of been responsible for all of her medical bills in the very least.
Years ago, My steph Dad was on his way to work at GM and was hit by a drunk driver, head on. The guy completely in his lane. He swerved to miss him and they met in the ditch. He was in intensive care for 60 days and in the hospital a total of 90, ended up with 2 shattered legs, collapsed lungs, and has had 4 or 5 back surgeries to date. They couldnt do a thing to the guy because he has no insurance, and pretty much just jumped from town to town. I remember all the hell they went through trying to track the guy down to no avail. It is horrible.
Well Pets............Please keep posting, You have been missed, and I hope all goes well today.
Hugs.
Was she hospitalized? This woman should of been responsible for all of her medical bills in the very least.
Years ago, My steph Dad was on his way to work at GM and was hit by a drunk driver, head on. The guy completely in his lane. He swerved to miss him and they met in the ditch. He was in intensive care for 60 days and in the hospital a total of 90, ended up with 2 shattered legs, collapsed lungs, and has had 4 or 5 back surgeries to date. They couldnt do a thing to the guy because he has no insurance, and pretty much just jumped from town to town. I remember all the hell they went through trying to track the guy down to no avail. It is horrible.
Well Pets............Please keep posting, You have been missed, and I hope all goes well today.
Hugs.
Pets and Petsmom,
Has pets ever considered moving to be closer to family? Sometimes that can make all the difference in the world. The unconditional love of nearby family can ease a lot of life's problems. I moved "home" after 5 years away, during a really rough patch, and it helped so much. Maybe her job would consider a transfer? I don't know if it's possible, or if she would want to, or any other variables, but I thought I would throw that out there.
Has pets ever considered moving to be closer to family? Sometimes that can make all the difference in the world. The unconditional love of nearby family can ease a lot of life's problems. I moved "home" after 5 years away, during a really rough patch, and it helped so much. Maybe her job would consider a transfer? I don't know if it's possible, or if she would want to, or any other variables, but I thought I would throw that out there.
Oh, Atlas, don't my husband and I wish!! We miss her SO much. She is our baby even at 38, and the one who stayed the longest and I know how much she loves us and we love her. We always have a great time together. Having said all that, her heart is in Maine. She did try to move back and spent a year in NYS before deciding to move back to Maine. I helped her find a job locally in a mouse laboratory and she did quite well there, but was bored out of her mind. (She's a smart cookie, but doesnt' have the degree to show.) Also, she hated the traffic commute here. It's a nightmare into Albany and back every day. She also has the problem of where to rent with her pets and she wouldn't even consider leaving them for any reason. Her name, Only4mypets, was chosen because it means that's why she's now alive and not dead. She can't see that she needs to become a whole person in order to help them. They're a real handfull....cute as the dickens, but hard to control when you're not ok yourself. In case you need a reminder, she has 3 dogs, 4 cats, a parralet (like a parakeet), and a rat. (Hey Pets, how about posting the picture you sent me? I loved it!!)
Well, ya never know, hearts can change with the circumstances. I hope she keeps an open mind and heart for the future. A good dose of mom and dad might be what she needs. Although, I understand the bond with her pets. I wouldn't leave mine for any reason, and I know she wouldn't either.
