i am new to this site have been searching for where to help me with the w/d from vic's I take 6-10 a day, like everyone started out following the scripts directions then found they helped with stress, and now find myself addicted. I have not stopped yet, I have 5 left and as I am sure some of you can relate to I am Freaking out, you know when you get 'low". It is on my mind continuously, as to where I will find more. Well I decided today is my last day, I hate worring all the time as to where I will get them, or what doc, I can go today. My life is not my own any more. I used to be a functioning addict and now my job has become affected, got fired last month due to missing narcotic's, as I am a nurse.
So this has caused great hardship on my family. I need to now stop, but I am so scared of the w/d symptoms, and I am searching for home remedies, need ideas, I have great home support, and I have now reached the point in my life where I realize this is way out of control. I cant taper down like I said I have only 5 left. So come tomorrow, I will be out. I look forward to any ideas. And contactiing my Md is not a option, I need to do this on my own. Help!
tracey
Tracy, i am a nurse as well , but thankfully i never got caught steeling meds, but anyways can u go to detox?? if so let me know & i can help u get into one!!
Tracey.....Hey and welcome to the board. You have come to the right place. Many of us here are former/current vic. addicts. Things have fallen in place for you to quit. This is your time.
There is a post from last night you need to read........Getting Clean and Staying Clean by DeborahM. It gives you much info that you will need to get through the next few days. There are several other posts currently running that deal with hydro w/d, as well. If you can, read them all. THey will enlighten you and , hopefully, ease your fears.
Please do not be afraid of this. It will be like the flu for a few days, but it is certainly bearable and so worth the discomfort. Being clean will be the best thing for you and your family. I wish you lots of luck and will keep you in my prayers. Take care and stay strong!
hi and no that is not a option, once you enter rehab it must be turned into the state and my license is at stake, and i have a family here. rehab wont work at this time i have no health coverage now that i am without work. So i need to do this at home. but thanks i will keep all my options open but i would prefer to try this here.
tracey
tracey
I HAVE JUST BEEN THRU THIS MYSELF TODAY IS DAY 7........WHAT A WONDERFUL THING IT IS!!!! IF I CAN DO IT ANYONE CAN.....ALTOGETHER I HAD 5 YEARS WITH THIS PROBLEM, BUT ONLY THE LAST TWO YEARS STRAIGHT! EXCEPT THAT YOU WILL BE SICK,,,,LIKE EVERYONE SAYS TREAT IT LIKE THE FLU! 3 DAYS BAD THEN DAY BY DAY YOU FEEL BETTER.....TAKE VITIAMS ONCE YOU GET TO THAT POINT. I BOUGHT EVERYTHING THAT WAS TOLD TO ME AND I GOT THRU IT!!!! COMTREX DAY AND NIGHT FLU, GATORADE,IMMODIUM, TYLENOL,MOTRIN,ALEVE HEADACHE,BENADRYL.........I PROMISE THIS STUFF HELPS!!!!! TAKE SEVERAL HOT BATHS...I TOOK 3-4 EVERYDAY!!!! THIS HELPS WITH THE CHILLS, ALL THESE MEDS WILL BE ALOT CHEAPER IN THE LONG RUN!!!!!! IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, I'D LOVE TO HELP!!! EVERYONE HERE HAS HELP ME TREMENDOUSLY!!!!!! IF YOU NEED ME YOU CAN EMAIL ME @JENHARTZOG@peoplepc.com.......I WISH YOU THE BEST AND I WILL PRAY FOR YOU!!!!!! GOOD LUCK MY FRIEND!JENNY2
Tracey, you can do this. It will be alright. Like Jenny said, it will be a rough couple of days with flu-like symptoms, but then the physical discomfort improves dramatically. I was up to 20-30 norco 10s a day, tapered to 6 and went c/t from there. It wasn't fun, but it has been so worth it. It's been more than 7 months now and life has seldom been better. AA or NA meetings are tremendously helpful both for education about your disease and for emotional support. If not that, maybe consider a counselor who specializes in addiction. The mental part of this addiction is insidious as hell, and it lasts long after the physical withdrawal is over. It's very hard to overcome without help and education, no matter how determined we are. Hang in and please keep posting.
Jenny -- congratulations on 7 days! That's tremendous.
Jenny -- congratulations on 7 days! That's tremendous.
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Hi - OMG, I have SO been where you're at - kind of. I lost my job today under simular circumstance. I was already in recovery, though and had been up-front w. my employers. I'm also a nurse, so I understand the stigma attached. You have to decide: Is your very life at risk from the narc use? And if so, what's more important, your career or your life? I can assure you that if you're addicted, then your VERY LIFE is at risk. It's a tough one, no doubt, I struggled for a long time w. going for help (afraid people would know I was a nurse, judge me badly, etc), but would not trade my recovery for anything...especially my life. Wish you well, sherrie
Tracey, as a nurse with an admitted addiction, please consider this in making your decisions. You probably got into nursing primarily to help others. Now it's your turn, help yourself -- but do it the right way with the greatest chance for success. If you had a disease like cancer or leukema, would you try to treat yourself or, as a nurse, would you follow recommended procedures that have stood the test of time ?
Chapter 5
HOW IT WORKS
Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly
followed our path. Those who do not recover
are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves
to this simple program, usually men and women
who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with
themselves. There are such unfortunates. They are not
at fault; they seem to have been born that way. They are
naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner
of living which demands rigorous honesty. Their
chances are less than average. There are those, too, who
suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders, but
many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be
honest.
Our stories disclose in a general way what we used to
be like, what happened, and what we are like now. If
you have decided you want what we have and are willing
to go to any length to get it -- then you are ready to
take certain steps.
At some of these we balked. We thought we could
find an easier, softer way. But we could not. With all
the earnestness at our command, we beg of you to be
fearless and thorough from the very start. Some of
us have tried to hold on to our old ideas and the result
was nil until we let go absolutely.
Remember that we deal with alcohol, cunning, baffling,
powerful! Without help it is too much for us. But
there is One who has all power that One is God. May
you find Him now!
Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the
turning point. we asked His protection and care with
complete abandon.
Here are the steps we took, which are suggested as a
program of recovery:
1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol - that
our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves
could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over
to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of
ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human
being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these
defects of character.
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became
willing to make amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible,
except when to do so would injure them or
others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we
were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve
our conscious contact with God as we understood
Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for
us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of
these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics,
and to practice these principles in all our
affairs.
Many of us exclaimed, "What an order! I can't go
through with it." Do not be discouraged. No one among
us has been able to maintain anything like perfect adherence
to these principles. We are not saints. The point
is, that we are willing to grow along spiritual lines. The
principles we have set down are guides to progress. We
claim spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection.
Our description of the alcoholic, the chapter to the
agnostic, and our personal adventure before and after
make clear three pertinent ideas:
(a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our
own lives.
(b) That probably no human power could have relieved
our alcoholism.
That God could and would if He were sought.
Being convinced, we were at Step Three, which is that
we decided to turn our will and our life over to God as
we understood Him. Just what do we mean by that, and
just what do we do?
_____
now we pick up with what you posted. i balked - boy oh boy did i balk and my gosh did exclaim not only could i not do this, i did not have interest in doing it. funny thing about that - it wasn't until the pain became too severe to live with that i became willing.
Chapter 5
HOW IT WORKS
Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly
followed our path. Those who do not recover
are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves
to this simple program, usually men and women
who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with
themselves. There are such unfortunates. They are not
at fault; they seem to have been born that way. They are
naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner
of living which demands rigorous honesty. Their
chances are less than average. There are those, too, who
suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders, but
many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be
honest.
Our stories disclose in a general way what we used to
be like, what happened, and what we are like now. If
you have decided you want what we have and are willing
to go to any length to get it -- then you are ready to
take certain steps.
At some of these we balked. We thought we could
find an easier, softer way. But we could not. With all
the earnestness at our command, we beg of you to be
fearless and thorough from the very start. Some of
us have tried to hold on to our old ideas and the result
was nil until we let go absolutely.
Remember that we deal with alcohol, cunning, baffling,
powerful! Without help it is too much for us. But
there is One who has all power that One is God. May
you find Him now!
Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the
turning point. we asked His protection and care with
complete abandon.
Here are the steps we took, which are suggested as a
program of recovery:
1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol - that
our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves
could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over
to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of
ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human
being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these
defects of character.
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became
willing to make amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible,
except when to do so would injure them or
others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we
were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve
our conscious contact with God as we understood
Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for
us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of
these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics,
and to practice these principles in all our
affairs.
Many of us exclaimed, "What an order! I can't go
through with it." Do not be discouraged. No one among
us has been able to maintain anything like perfect adherence
to these principles. We are not saints. The point
is, that we are willing to grow along spiritual lines. The
principles we have set down are guides to progress. We
claim spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection.
Our description of the alcoholic, the chapter to the
agnostic, and our personal adventure before and after
make clear three pertinent ideas:
(a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our
own lives.
(b) That probably no human power could have relieved
our alcoholism.
That God could and would if He were sought.
Being convinced, we were at Step Three, which is that
we decided to turn our will and our life over to God as
we understood Him. Just what do we mean by that, and
just what do we do?
_____
now we pick up with what you posted. i balked - boy oh boy did i balk and my gosh did exclaim not only could i not do this, i did not have interest in doing it. funny thing about that - it wasn't until the pain became too severe to live with that i became willing.
What does bump refer to?
It brings the post up to a more prominent position to be read. With all of the B.S. going on, I thought it was a much more relevant post...
Rach
Rach
Hi, Tracey
I am so proud of you for deciding enough is enough and you're going to get your life back! If it's like having the flu like they say, you can handle that! Sometimes you go through that without any reward. This time you will have a BIG reward of getting freedom from pills. I will keep you in my prayers.
Love,
Susan
I am so proud of you for deciding enough is enough and you're going to get your life back! If it's like having the flu like they say, you can handle that! Sometimes you go through that without any reward. This time you will have a BIG reward of getting freedom from pills. I will keep you in my prayers.
Love,
Susan
Dear Tracey,
I am on day two and if you need me to go through this with you, I will. Honestly, it really isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Here is what I have done so far. I started a journal to track my progress and note my feelings. I read somewhere that baths with baking soda or sea salts help detox so I do that 3x a day. I visit this board about every 2 hours sometimes more than that just to read or vent if I need to. Benydryl really helps with the insomnia and anxiety. Drink lots and lots of water, eat bananas (helps with restless legs), and take a daily vitamin. Try to eat as healthy as possible. I'm not too far into recovery so I am just trying to give you support and what is helping me may help you too. I'm here for you if you need me.
Amy
I am on day two and if you need me to go through this with you, I will. Honestly, it really isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Here is what I have done so far. I started a journal to track my progress and note my feelings. I read somewhere that baths with baking soda or sea salts help detox so I do that 3x a day. I visit this board about every 2 hours sometimes more than that just to read or vent if I need to. Benydryl really helps with the insomnia and anxiety. Drink lots and lots of water, eat bananas (helps with restless legs), and take a daily vitamin. Try to eat as healthy as possible. I'm not too far into recovery so I am just trying to give you support and what is helping me may help you too. I'm here for you if you need me.
Amy
hi everyone and thanks for the support, today is only truely day one havent had anything since 5pm yesterday, and i am going crazy, my mind is so occupied with this, the physcial symptoms have not really started yet. but psychologicly it crazy. I have alreadly wonder if it better to taper down or just stop. Or am i using the taper down method today just to get one today. I dont know, but i will take each hr. as it comes and hope i can hang on. I hate feeling this way, i have a beautiful 4yr old whom is the greatest gift to me, but all i can think about right now is just taking a few and taper down. I have felt somewhat better after reading some of the posts, so far but i cant sit here all day either. I will check in later when i begin to crack again. take care and again thanks for the support you have no idea how comforting it is and it helps.
tracey
tracey
