hi
my names desiree im from new zealand and new to the site
i came across it while looking for info for my partner
my partner and i have a 14 month old baby and we could possibly be expecting
my partner is on heroin he has been on needles for 15 years all up.
he was on the methodine and was sick of deugs ruleing his life so he took himself off it silly move, for the past month he has been takeing heroin and is now hooked. we dont know what to do, the hospital drug clinic is no help we are considering rehab? i am a toatl novice at the whole drug thing, im so afraid of loseing him i love him so much and he wants help please advice would be so helpfull right now im lost and afraid is there anything we can do?
Hi there,
My partner is also a heroin addict and I have a daughter 14 month old. My partner is trying to get clean at the moment. He is currently seing a drugs councilor who is working with his doctor to get him onto subitex. The only thing when getting on subitex is you have to build up trust with the councilor and your doctor before they will prescribe anything. Subitex is in very high demand and can be sold for allot of money hence the time it takes to get a script. It takes approximatey 6-8 weeks to get a presecription but that can vary. Has he been to see his gp?? Thats normally the first step. His gp will give him numbers for the drugs workers in your area, he will then get an appointment to see them and then he will have to do a few urine samples and a couple of appointments with your gp and drugs worker then hopefully he will get a script. One thing I will advise is that he asks for subitex and not methadone because methadone is harder to get off than heroin! He has got to want to do this for himself though otherwise he will never stop this addiction.
Only other advise is to keep logging onto here for help and support. It really helped me through, and gave me the strength I didnt know I had. The people on here are great, from addicts, recovering addicts, partners of addicts. Its great and they can answer most of your questions for you.
Sounds like your partner has been open with you, whilst mine was lying to me for months and we almost seperated, and he also almost killed himself. We are through one of the most difficult stages now but I still find myself logging on and checking this site out.
Keep strong and keep in touch.
BunnyRocker xx
My partner is also a heroin addict and I have a daughter 14 month old. My partner is trying to get clean at the moment. He is currently seing a drugs councilor who is working with his doctor to get him onto subitex. The only thing when getting on subitex is you have to build up trust with the councilor and your doctor before they will prescribe anything. Subitex is in very high demand and can be sold for allot of money hence the time it takes to get a script. It takes approximatey 6-8 weeks to get a presecription but that can vary. Has he been to see his gp?? Thats normally the first step. His gp will give him numbers for the drugs workers in your area, he will then get an appointment to see them and then he will have to do a few urine samples and a couple of appointments with your gp and drugs worker then hopefully he will get a script. One thing I will advise is that he asks for subitex and not methadone because methadone is harder to get off than heroin! He has got to want to do this for himself though otherwise he will never stop this addiction.
Only other advise is to keep logging onto here for help and support. It really helped me through, and gave me the strength I didnt know I had. The people on here are great, from addicts, recovering addicts, partners of addicts. Its great and they can answer most of your questions for you.
Sounds like your partner has been open with you, whilst mine was lying to me for months and we almost seperated, and he also almost killed himself. We are through one of the most difficult stages now but I still find myself logging on and checking this site out.
Keep strong and keep in touch.
BunnyRocker xx
Hi
I really feel for you, I too am the partner of a heroin addict... its awful and if I didnt love him so much, I just couldnt cope (not really sure that I do cope all that well!) but for your baby, you have to let go to a certain extent. I found that the hardest thing to do, but like all these guys will tell you, they have to want to do it for themselves, you worrying and willing them to do it will only destroy you and you need to be there for your baby. Its so so so so hard to deal with, and there is no quick fix, but if he wants to do it, thats the best way, but you have to let him walk the walk, you cant lead him along the path, he has to walk it, if he falls along the way, be there with the anti-septic, but make him walk it.
Take care of you tho.
xx
I really feel for you, I too am the partner of a heroin addict... its awful and if I didnt love him so much, I just couldnt cope (not really sure that I do cope all that well!) but for your baby, you have to let go to a certain extent. I found that the hardest thing to do, but like all these guys will tell you, they have to want to do it for themselves, you worrying and willing them to do it will only destroy you and you need to be there for your baby. Its so so so so hard to deal with, and there is no quick fix, but if he wants to do it, thats the best way, but you have to let him walk the walk, you cant lead him along the path, he has to walk it, if he falls along the way, be there with the anti-septic, but make him walk it.
Take care of you tho.
xx
Hi Desiree......welcome.....sorry it's under such sad conditions.
I'm a recovering heroin addict, Des......there is HOPE.....you said he wants to kick this stuff....so that's a great sign.......not sure how the system works though where you are from.
A rehab would definately be a good place to start........there's many that will make sure he is comfortable with a few days of the methadone...they wean you, and he'll learn skills to cope.........how to handle things.
Just my opinion, Des and what worked for me is finding out why I used.....what was all behind it...........don't give up......I'm sure others will be by to give sage advice......everyone is great on here......hang on, Desirre.
I'm a recovering heroin addict, Des......there is HOPE.....you said he wants to kick this stuff....so that's a great sign.......not sure how the system works though where you are from.
A rehab would definately be a good place to start........there's many that will make sure he is comfortable with a few days of the methadone...they wean you, and he'll learn skills to cope.........how to handle things.
Just my opinion, Des and what worked for me is finding out why I used.....what was all behind it...........don't give up......I'm sure others will be by to give sage advice......everyone is great on here......hang on, Desirre.
Hi & welcome
You don't mention how much or if he was using while on m done. Did he try & shoot dope over his dose? How high (or low) was his dose?Did he use benzo,s ?(a common problem with people getting on m done)- Did he even give this type of treatment work a chance to work?. Unlike other treatments, you are still on a drug,and you will probably be around people ,places and things-- so you do have to work at that part of it. Methadone will work,but you have to work with it. Get educated,talk to the counslers,the doctors, and find out what is the best plan to go with. What dose would be right. You can always come down and eventually off,or on to the subs,and then off.
There are many factors , perhaps if you fill in some of the blanks ,some of us on this site will be better equipped to make suggestions-- remember we are doctors- but we know certain real life things/feelings a doctor doesn't know
keepintouch,
jack
You don't mention how much or if he was using while on m done. Did he try & shoot dope over his dose? How high (or low) was his dose?Did he use benzo,s ?(a common problem with people getting on m done)- Did he even give this type of treatment work a chance to work?. Unlike other treatments, you are still on a drug,and you will probably be around people ,places and things-- so you do have to work at that part of it. Methadone will work,but you have to work with it. Get educated,talk to the counslers,the doctors, and find out what is the best plan to go with. What dose would be right. You can always come down and eventually off,or on to the subs,and then off.
There are many factors , perhaps if you fill in some of the blanks ,some of us on this site will be better equipped to make suggestions-- remember we are doctors- but we know certain real life things/feelings a doctor doesn't know
keepintouch,
jack
well not much more I can say that everyone else hasnt already..........but this is a great site, lots of great ppl and welcome to ya.hope ya stick around
thank you so much for everything everyone has said you almost had me crying.
shaun was on the methodone for a year when he took himself off
he was injecting the methodone not drinking.
and he started with heroin one day when a friend offered it, he took it he then went off the meth and onto the heroin but its just getting worse, he would have small doses at first (all injected) and now he is injecting as many times a day as he can the max has been 4 i think they are 30 mg and 3-4 at a time (hope i have this right as i dont have much to do with the stuff)
when he meet me he got the meth down to 120 mg from 160 mg for me
he did get the meth down to 80 mg a day.
he wasent always honest but we have an understanding he would lie but we had arguments over it (a lot) i have always said to him that its worse lieing cause im not dumb and i know the truth anyway and it makes it worse im a fairly understanding person and dont get angry much.
i beleive the most important thing is to be totally honest no matter how hard it is.
otherwise it wont work so we are totally honest he still lies sometimes but ten minutes later he will tell me the truth.
he wants help we talk about it all the time he's looking into rehabe we found 3 private clinics on the net but at 4500 a week its out of our price range unfortunetly.
were in new zealand.
he is a client at alchol and drug at the local hospital but i have been to appointments with him and they just wont listen to what hes saying hes gone as far as forgeing scripts and they know.
we have a few numbers of other drug services in our town that were going to try and hopefuly we can find a local rehab that can help
shaun was on the methodone for a year when he took himself off
he was injecting the methodone not drinking.
and he started with heroin one day when a friend offered it, he took it he then went off the meth and onto the heroin but its just getting worse, he would have small doses at first (all injected) and now he is injecting as many times a day as he can the max has been 4 i think they are 30 mg and 3-4 at a time (hope i have this right as i dont have much to do with the stuff)
when he meet me he got the meth down to 120 mg from 160 mg for me
he did get the meth down to 80 mg a day.
he wasent always honest but we have an understanding he would lie but we had arguments over it (a lot) i have always said to him that its worse lieing cause im not dumb and i know the truth anyway and it makes it worse im a fairly understanding person and dont get angry much.
i beleive the most important thing is to be totally honest no matter how hard it is.
otherwise it wont work so we are totally honest he still lies sometimes but ten minutes later he will tell me the truth.
he wants help we talk about it all the time he's looking into rehabe we found 3 private clinics on the net but at 4500 a week its out of our price range unfortunetly.
were in new zealand.
he is a client at alchol and drug at the local hospital but i have been to appointments with him and they just wont listen to what hes saying hes gone as far as forgeing scripts and they know.
we have a few numbers of other drug services in our town that were going to try and hopefuly we can find a local rehab that can help
Crystalrose,
Really hope things work out for you. I also know what you mean about the honesty because it caused most arguments in our home because he would tell me the truth, yet I think I was quite understanding when he told me the whole truth about him using etc. He tries to tell me the truth now but I still catch him out with little white lies which annoys me cos he dont need to lie.
Injecting meth??? Thats one things I have never heard before? Aint it a bit thick or do you have to mix it with something?
I have my fingers, toes, everything crossed for you both and hope that you get the help you deserve.
As for myself only time will tell. He is going to see his doctor tomorrow and fingers crossed he will get his script. Think it took him 8 weeks to get one!
Good luck and take care.
Love BunyRocker xx
Really hope things work out for you. I also know what you mean about the honesty because it caused most arguments in our home because he would tell me the truth, yet I think I was quite understanding when he told me the whole truth about him using etc. He tries to tell me the truth now but I still catch him out with little white lies which annoys me cos he dont need to lie.
Injecting meth??? Thats one things I have never heard before? Aint it a bit thick or do you have to mix it with something?
I have my fingers, toes, everything crossed for you both and hope that you get the help you deserve.
As for myself only time will tell. He is going to see his doctor tomorrow and fingers crossed he will get his script. Think it took him 8 weeks to get one!
Good luck and take care.
Love BunyRocker xx
hi
hes suppose to drink the meth but he holds it in his mouth and leaves the pharmacy then spits it in a cup and will inject it.
he went to the alocol and drug clinic today and they are putting him back on methodone 60 mg to start with he has said he will drink it but only time will tell
yes he tells little white lies that are so see through its funny and ill tell him off and usually thats the end of it.
when i first met him he was only doing methodone and he told me he didnt use drugs - so this is the biggest lie he has ever told me.
im guessing he thought it would scare me off.
he knows what triggers his drug use he grew up in boys homes his mum was and still is a drunk and hes been abused all his life.
im hopeing he will keep to his word about swalling it and stop the heroin but at this stage i dont believe him but will be haveing a good talk to him tonight.
im glad hes honest with me but sometimes i feel so useless and hopeless im afraid everyday that that will be it and he'll no longer be here not to mention the moods if no body has any to sell
im so glad i have someone to talk to that understands and has been there it helps heaps and im so grateful.
hes suppose to drink the meth but he holds it in his mouth and leaves the pharmacy then spits it in a cup and will inject it.
he went to the alocol and drug clinic today and they are putting him back on methodone 60 mg to start with he has said he will drink it but only time will tell
yes he tells little white lies that are so see through its funny and ill tell him off and usually thats the end of it.
when i first met him he was only doing methodone and he told me he didnt use drugs - so this is the biggest lie he has ever told me.
im guessing he thought it would scare me off.
he knows what triggers his drug use he grew up in boys homes his mum was and still is a drunk and hes been abused all his life.
im hopeing he will keep to his word about swalling it and stop the heroin but at this stage i dont believe him but will be haveing a good talk to him tonight.
im glad hes honest with me but sometimes i feel so useless and hopeless im afraid everyday that that will be it and he'll no longer be here not to mention the moods if no body has any to sell
im so glad i have someone to talk to that understands and has been there it helps heaps and im so grateful.
opps was suppose to add goodluck for tommorow i hope it goes well
Hello again,
I have just spoken to my partner and he assures me that injecting meth has the same affect as swallowing it??? and in fact injecting heroin is actually better than injecting meth?? Not sure how true this is, maybe someone can confirm this for me?
Well he has his appointment tomorrow and hopefully he gets his script. Only time will tell.
Its amazing how much money you go through when he is using this gear. Its not that we are short of money, we have food on the table, roof over our head etc, our daughter has the best of clothes and everything she needs but its so frustrating to know that this money is going to such a waste, well basically up in smoke!
I just hope that the subbies work because if he dont sort himself out this time then he is gone. He is on his FINAL WARNING.
I have supported him all the way but its his battle, his problem and only he can sort it. I will just be here to support him. I am done crying tears for him, cleaning up his mess and worrying about things that are not my problem.
Anyway got to get my daughter sorted..she done a poo..you know how it is? lol
Feel free to msn me on lyndsayg425@hotmail.co.uk
Take care of yourself and speak soon.
Lyndsay xx
I have just spoken to my partner and he assures me that injecting meth has the same affect as swallowing it??? and in fact injecting heroin is actually better than injecting meth?? Not sure how true this is, maybe someone can confirm this for me?
Well he has his appointment tomorrow and hopefully he gets his script. Only time will tell.
Its amazing how much money you go through when he is using this gear. Its not that we are short of money, we have food on the table, roof over our head etc, our daughter has the best of clothes and everything she needs but its so frustrating to know that this money is going to such a waste, well basically up in smoke!
I just hope that the subbies work because if he dont sort himself out this time then he is gone. He is on his FINAL WARNING.
I have supported him all the way but its his battle, his problem and only he can sort it. I will just be here to support him. I am done crying tears for him, cleaning up his mess and worrying about things that are not my problem.
Anyway got to get my daughter sorted..she done a poo..you know how it is? lol
Feel free to msn me on lyndsayg425@hotmail.co.uk
Take care of yourself and speak soon.
Lyndsay xx
he says injecting works quiker then orally and that he dosent get a high it just makes him feel normal.
he had a appointment with alchol and drug yesterday and will find out on friday if he can go back on the methodone program.
we are struggling with the cost nothing majorly it just sucks being broke all the time because of a drug (his words last night)
we were going to try n/a meetings but he said thats where some users go to sell and the last thing he needs is another contact.
how long have you been with your partner?
and how long has he been on the stuff?
at the moment im at a point where i dont know how much more i can take im forever crying and its horrible the littlest thing sets me off.
he had a appointment with alchol and drug yesterday and will find out on friday if he can go back on the methodone program.
we are struggling with the cost nothing majorly it just sucks being broke all the time because of a drug (his words last night)
we were going to try n/a meetings but he said thats where some users go to sell and the last thing he needs is another contact.
how long have you been with your partner?
and how long has he been on the stuff?
at the moment im at a point where i dont know how much more i can take im forever crying and its horrible the littlest thing sets me off.
I was at a point where I was crying all the time until I used this site and realised that it was his problem and I was making it mine. I started getting on with my life on concentrating on myself. I wasnt bothered anymore what he done, I would live my life and do my thing and likewise for him.
I have been with my partner for 3 years and he has been using for the last 3 month, almost 4. He started using tablets and then one day had a crack pipe and when it came to coming down the next day he chose to have a smoke of heroin so that I wouldnt be able to tell he was coming down. It all started then, and then one more and one more and BINGO he is addicted. He only confessed EVERYTHING about 3-4 weeks ago but things have been so much better now that I know the truth. It was so hard when I didnt know what he was taking. He would go out everyday and I would never know what state he was going to come back in. My mind was so messed up and I lost about 2 stone in weight and dropped a dress size. It was like my worste nightmare come true when he told me he had been using heroin, but I guess deep down I already knew. I had given him hundreds of chances to tell me the truth but he just kept telling me he hadnt had anything or later on he would tell me he was addicted to tablets. I found foil in places and immediately I thought heroin but he tried to tell me it was crack. I knew from the black everywhere that it wasnt what he said. I spoke to someone and explained everything and they confirmed it was heroin.
He is lucky to be here because he tried to kill himself a month and a half ago and I have kicked him on on numeruous occasions but he begs his way back in the door because he aint from round her and has nowhere to live. I even made him live in his van for a while, with the electric or nothing!!
How long have you been with your partner?
Lyndsay
I have been with my partner for 3 years and he has been using for the last 3 month, almost 4. He started using tablets and then one day had a crack pipe and when it came to coming down the next day he chose to have a smoke of heroin so that I wouldnt be able to tell he was coming down. It all started then, and then one more and one more and BINGO he is addicted. He only confessed EVERYTHING about 3-4 weeks ago but things have been so much better now that I know the truth. It was so hard when I didnt know what he was taking. He would go out everyday and I would never know what state he was going to come back in. My mind was so messed up and I lost about 2 stone in weight and dropped a dress size. It was like my worste nightmare come true when he told me he had been using heroin, but I guess deep down I already knew. I had given him hundreds of chances to tell me the truth but he just kept telling me he hadnt had anything or later on he would tell me he was addicted to tablets. I found foil in places and immediately I thought heroin but he tried to tell me it was crack. I knew from the black everywhere that it wasnt what he said. I spoke to someone and explained everything and they confirmed it was heroin.
He is lucky to be here because he tried to kill himself a month and a half ago and I have kicked him on on numeruous occasions but he begs his way back in the door because he aint from round her and has nowhere to live. I even made him live in his van for a while, with the electric or nothing!!
How long have you been with your partner?
Lyndsay
Alright..Crystalrose..just to say injecting oral methadone linctus is very rare..you can get ampoules of meth. specially for injection but again they are rarely prescribed.Problem being you cant get a big enough syringe to intake a large enough dose of meth.
Hope this clarifies any doubts ya had .Take care......Davey
Hope this clarifies any doubts ya had .Take care......Davey
Hi Crystalrose,
Hoping that meeting went well for him......thinking of you too.
Hoping that meeting went well for him......thinking of you too.
hi and thanks.
the clinic has said he can get back on the methodone and he's promised to drink it not inject as it's his last chance, but as yet we are still waiting for them today they said they would try and get a app with the doctor for tommorow
here's hopeing
the clinic has said he can get back on the methodone and he's promised to drink it not inject as it's his last chance, but as yet we are still waiting for them today they said they would try and get a app with the doctor for tommorow
here's hopeing
Wow, that's a real pain.........sorry you have to go through all that CR......hang in there though........he can get clean.........we did.....he can do it.
The system I swear is designed to work a last nerve.
The system I swear is designed to work a last nerve.
