Hello everyone perkcat here, most of you know a little bit of my situation. i am an addict, addicted to perc's 25-30 a day and alot of mental health problems, although i seem to be able to maintain a so called normal life with a could career, that may be in trouble due to my run in with the police.
my Dr will nolonger deal with my addiction or weening me because i forged a script because i couldn't handle the amount he dropped me to. ( which i can understand it hurt his feelings)But now I am left to either go to a meth program of which i have an appointment with a meth Dr tomorrow or find an alternative way to deal with this. I am so shook up and scared, I don't think i'll find another dr who will deal with my addiction and try to ween me again, My pills will run out tommorow and I am scared.
I went to see my phsychiatrist yesterday and he will not deal with my addiction, he wants me to check into a rehab program that is 7 day's long and you quit C/T I am afraid of this when I quit C/T last time I had heart rate of 200 beats min. and they couldn't read my bp because my heart rate was so high.
If anyone has thoughts or words of wisdom i would glad to listen, otherwise i'll let you all know what happens tommorow at the meth clinic.
Thanx to everyone who has supported me in the past i appriciate it so much you don't know.
sincerley feeling hopeless
Cat
why dont you try the suboxone route? i have done it and i know of 3 others that have also....each very successful. no cold turkey suffering...i dont know your complete history but i have read a lot on the suboxone and the bup (main ingredient?) in it has also been used for depression in some cases? so maybe it will help the mental? end....again, i dont know your situation, i can only speak from experience. the meth route although very good for some, seems to be such a "permanent" thing. where the "sub" way can be done as a quick detox....just a thought for you... good luck! www.suboxone.com
oh, and also to let you know....the people i know were using the same amount of percs as you noted if not more daily....one of them for almost 4 years...i was a short term "user" ... took maybe 10-15 day (percs, 5's) since only january...i for one can attest that the physical withdrawal symptoms were non existant....i had gone through some wds when i couldnt get any pills and they werent pretty...so i was so scared trying the suboxone...but i did it and could not believe that the wds never came. no frequent bathroom visits....skin crawling....etc etc....i do have to say though, then psych. end is a battle...you still want, etc...etc...but i think that might not be so if people stay on it longer...i only used it for a few days to get clean and now i must battle each day with bouts of depression....which i am going to see my psych about getting on an anti-dep. to get over this hump. better than killing myself with that amount of pills each day though, right?
take care
take care
Cat,,,man I know your scared to death,,,and In trouble too.I can tell you from a addicts point of view(I'm hydrocodone addict) this is my first week clean in 2 years,and it's been tough,but your in the right place.Bro you need to take care of your addiction first,I think you know that. I don't know what state your in but maybe you should look into that 7 day deal closer,also try to ask questions about subutex,and suboxone,and see if their are programs where you live that offer this med.It's real tough giving med advice,sense I'm not a doc,,so check this out really good first,but get busy with your sobrity someway somehow.Check in your phone book for NA or AA programs,I know this is probley the last thing you want to hear,but their are people their that will not judge you,ar look down on you in anyway,but will probley tell you some truths that you want want to hear but really need to,,and you will feel so much better about your situation. Come back and post offen,people here have been where you are now,and most have years clean,,some days,but right now I know that it's hard for you to even imaginie 1 day clean,,,but I promise it can be done.
CAT...First of all, know that what I'm saying is out of love and respect for your wanting help. Time to quit screwing around with this. Tapering doesn't work for everybody, in fact the success rate for me was nill. Having access to pills was too tempting and your addict tells you that it knows best and that you need more and more. Go to treatment. They won't let you go c/t. They monitor you and give you meds to ease your discomfort. They won't however give you narcotics. Time to let go and let someone else drive the bus. Do what you're told to do and I think you'll be amazed at how much easier this will be. You keep trying to take the hard way. The meth is just a substitute and you're only prolonging your recovery. I have heard good things about subexone, so maybe that's worth looking into but make sure it's short term. Treatment will teach you the skills you need to beat this. And by the way way, 7 days? Waste of time. You need a 28 day program so that they can beat it into your head. That's what I needed. Addicts aren't too bright.
Give it a go kid, what have you got to lose?
Love you
Cowgirl
Give it a go kid, what have you got to lose?
Love you
Cowgirl
Cat,
If you go into the 7 day detox, then you don't have to worry about heart rate and blood pressure because there will be doctors there, so at least you don't have to worry about that. They'll make sure nothing physically happens to you. Hang in.
Briar
If you go into the 7 day detox, then you don't have to worry about heart rate and blood pressure because there will be doctors there, so at least you don't have to worry about that. They'll make sure nothing physically happens to you. Hang in.
Briar
Thank you to everyone who replied, I appriciate it so much. I live in Canada and I have wanted to look into sub., but I don't think it is available here yet. Does anyone know of any drug similar to sub? or that acts like sub. and if it is available in canada?. When I see the detox Dr tomorrow, I'll ask him what alternatives there are available in Canada. Maybe I can help someone else out with the info.
Again thank you all, your such loving people and it's so nice to know your all there for me and supportive.
I will post tommorow and keep everyone informed on what's going on.
Again thank you sooooooooo much!
Again thank you all, your such loving people and it's so nice to know your all there for me and supportive.
I will post tommorow and keep everyone informed on what's going on.
Again thank you sooooooooo much!
Cat
not too long ago, I did some research for Sub in Canada and basically came up with next to nothing. Unless I missed some resources in finding out more about Sub in Canada, it is pretty safe to assume that Sub is currently not available here. (West Coast)
However, a 7-day detox center may be an option for you; so is tapering and/or going c/t w/doc supervision.
Whatever you chose for your recovery, Cat, be patient with the changes withhin your mind and body as a whole...and most of all...good luck :-)
not too long ago, I did some research for Sub in Canada and basically came up with next to nothing. Unless I missed some resources in finding out more about Sub in Canada, it is pretty safe to assume that Sub is currently not available here. (West Coast)
However, a 7-day detox center may be an option for you; so is tapering and/or going c/t w/doc supervision.
Whatever you chose for your recovery, Cat, be patient with the changes withhin your mind and body as a whole...and most of all...good luck :-)
hi cat, i also live in canada, and was going to do the tapering, iv been in and out of reahab for 15 y, but iv come to a place in my life were i don,t want that chain a ball around my anklw eny more, im going up north to try tapering thare at our cotteg, my husben is recover, so he is going to help me, i was also wondering the same thing about that sub, you were talking about, if you get eny info let me now, i don,t now were you live in canada but in on, we have a few good program,s if you would like some info , i now im in for a few bade day,s but i also just came of hep.c. treatment and that was realy bade, i no i would never have made it with out the paine med,s but now is the time for to get better with out them and turn my will over to god, as someone was saying let someone else do the driving, because i don,t now how enymore, thanks for chareing, goodluck. jada
Cat,
Go into the 7 day rehab. I did it from home it wasnt an option for me although the dr though otherwise I have three kids I suffered at home. I had a nurse come everyday though check blood pressure etc..... Its gotta be done im only 11days into and already I can do things. I thought I was gonna give up but this place gives me hope and listen to what cowgirl says she is right...... she gave me stregth when I had none. overit/maria also was great..... these people give us hope we have to beleive in them and beleive in me too cause I am suffering but each hour seems better and better.....
Believe in your self you can do this go do it
Rhonda70
Go into the 7 day rehab. I did it from home it wasnt an option for me although the dr though otherwise I have three kids I suffered at home. I had a nurse come everyday though check blood pressure etc..... Its gotta be done im only 11days into and already I can do things. I thought I was gonna give up but this place gives me hope and listen to what cowgirl says she is right...... she gave me stregth when I had none. overit/maria also was great..... these people give us hope we have to beleive in them and beleive in me too cause I am suffering but each hour seems better and better.....
Believe in your self you can do this go do it
Rhonda70
Dear Cat,
My wise friend, Cowgirl, makes an excellent point. Going into an inpatient treatment program will give you peace-of-mind. The temptation to use opioids, such as Suboxone, is less likely because, as she pointed out, an inpatient treatment program won't supply you with opioids to taper you. Trying to accomplish this in seven days, whether you were inpatient or outpatient, did not succeed for me either. Although I have used opioids for five years for chronic pain, I abused them for two of those years. My physician tried to taper me, as she saw that I was completely out of control. A thirty-day supply would not last twenty days - at the most. She tried tapering me in a ten day period which, in itself, wasn't helpful. On the eleventh day, all I wanted to do was go back to 'my' regular dose.
Finally, I made the decision to enter a 28 day inpatient program. The first ten days were used to withdraw me from the opioids by using other medications. A physician was available 24 hours/day for people that were in detoxification. Nurses and medical assistants checked on my status every few hours to ensure that my condition was stable at all times. The range of programs that the facility offered was exceptional. Although you may not feel up to attending the programs, if they are offered, until you pass the worst of the withdrawal. If programs are offered, try and take advantage of them. You'll gain a rapport with other people in recovery and they, in turn, will offer you support, just as you can offer guidance and support in return.
I think that your chances of success are much higher in a 28 day program than simply having a physician write a prescription for Suboxone, and letting you go home without a support net.
I think that you also mentioned, in another thread, that you may have a forgery charge brought against you. In college, I worked as an intern in a high security (level 4) jail. People with addiction that were in custody were not afforded the chance to withdraw comfortably. They withdrew 'cold turkey' and, as I saw, it was not fun. Get the withdrawal and detoxification over with first, and then you'll have one less thing to worry about if you have to appear in court.
Cowgirl, and others, gave you wonderful advice and support. You have nothing to lose by trying a longer program. This, in turn, can help with your possible legal battles, too. If the court sees that you entered into treatment voluntarily, you will be commended for that.
In my eyes, you are already doing a great job. You know that you have a problem, and you are looking at different possibilites on how to deal with that. That is a courageous decision, Cat. Good luck at your appointment with the methadone program, today. Keep posting, Cat - we are all here to help you. You are on your way to recovery. The ball is in your hand, now run with it! My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Ben
My wise friend, Cowgirl, makes an excellent point. Going into an inpatient treatment program will give you peace-of-mind. The temptation to use opioids, such as Suboxone, is less likely because, as she pointed out, an inpatient treatment program won't supply you with opioids to taper you. Trying to accomplish this in seven days, whether you were inpatient or outpatient, did not succeed for me either. Although I have used opioids for five years for chronic pain, I abused them for two of those years. My physician tried to taper me, as she saw that I was completely out of control. A thirty-day supply would not last twenty days - at the most. She tried tapering me in a ten day period which, in itself, wasn't helpful. On the eleventh day, all I wanted to do was go back to 'my' regular dose.
Finally, I made the decision to enter a 28 day inpatient program. The first ten days were used to withdraw me from the opioids by using other medications. A physician was available 24 hours/day for people that were in detoxification. Nurses and medical assistants checked on my status every few hours to ensure that my condition was stable at all times. The range of programs that the facility offered was exceptional. Although you may not feel up to attending the programs, if they are offered, until you pass the worst of the withdrawal. If programs are offered, try and take advantage of them. You'll gain a rapport with other people in recovery and they, in turn, will offer you support, just as you can offer guidance and support in return.
I think that your chances of success are much higher in a 28 day program than simply having a physician write a prescription for Suboxone, and letting you go home without a support net.
I think that you also mentioned, in another thread, that you may have a forgery charge brought against you. In college, I worked as an intern in a high security (level 4) jail. People with addiction that were in custody were not afforded the chance to withdraw comfortably. They withdrew 'cold turkey' and, as I saw, it was not fun. Get the withdrawal and detoxification over with first, and then you'll have one less thing to worry about if you have to appear in court.
Cowgirl, and others, gave you wonderful advice and support. You have nothing to lose by trying a longer program. This, in turn, can help with your possible legal battles, too. If the court sees that you entered into treatment voluntarily, you will be commended for that.
In my eyes, you are already doing a great job. You know that you have a problem, and you are looking at different possibilites on how to deal with that. That is a courageous decision, Cat. Good luck at your appointment with the methadone program, today. Keep posting, Cat - we are all here to help you. You are on your way to recovery. The ball is in your hand, now run with it! My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Ben
