Hello to all again. I just wanted to know what to do when you have no support at home? My husband was supposed to take my vicodin, and give me only one an hour, but keeps conveniently 'fogetting'. Neither one of my parents believe in addictions, and my in-laws are in a state of denial, I think. They just refuse to talk about it. It's getting to be rather discouraging....and it feels rather lonely. How did you all come to find all the support you needed to become clean? Thanks.
Hi Jill..sorry to hear that you're having a tough time at home. Have you talked to your dr about all this? Is he the one that put you on "one an hour"? Sounds like a lot if you're trying to taper or taking them for pain. I'm sorry if I missed your story..would you mind telling me again?
Is it possible to take your husband to the dr with you so that he can fully understand what is going on? Sometimes our spouse take it better coming from someon else.
Cowgirl
Is it possible to take your husband to the dr with you so that he can fully understand what is going on? Sometimes our spouse take it better coming from someon else.
Cowgirl
Jilly:
I found I couldn't do it alone. I needed help and support. I attend AA. Plain and simple. Left to my own devices I wind up loaded. By going to meetings, I have a design for living. I am accountable and I am able to give back the support that was given to me when I reached out. I have a solid crew of friends who are all clean and sober and doing the deal. We don't use no matter what.
Rachel
Hi Jilly, in your fellow addicts. They are usually the only ones who truly understand and are happily willing to suport you.
Love, Kat
Love, Kat
Sometimes without even realising it, we sabotage the other persons plan to get clean, I think maybe this is what your Husband is doing. But he would probably never realise it himself, so no point bringing it up to him.
The rest is up to you, surround yourself with others who can help and support you,make sure you go to those groups often and, of course, we are here for you.
Good luck.
Karen
The rest is up to you, surround yourself with others who can help and support you,make sure you go to those groups often and, of course, we are here for you.
Good luck.
Karen
Well, my doctor was of no help at all. She, like I said, is giving me one vicodin (10mg) an hour for three days, one every hour and a half for three days , and so on....I was taking 25 or more a day to begin with. The problem is, she then prescribed me morphine and fentenyl patches to help with pain...which I find myself running into problems with as well. She gave me Librium for the withdrawls, but that doesn't help either..then she gave me 100 more vicodin, and sent me on my merry way. I dont' understand. From what I'm hearing in this forum, my doctor isn't doing what she needs to be doing.
If I were you I would change Doctors if you can.
Karen
Karen
So, your dr puts you on a taper schedule for viks, but you're still on morphine and fentnyl patches???? She's an idiot. You don't need to taper if you're still taking other narcotics. Just stop taking the viks. Get rid of them. Either that or get rid of the other stuff and continue to taper off of the viks? Are you trying to get off of everything or just the viks?
I'm really confused, I'm sorry for not understanding....
And what Rachel said.
Cowgirl
I'm really confused, I'm sorry for not understanding....
And what Rachel said.
Cowgirl
hello,welcome to the board.I had the same problem in the begining.I started wondering is it that he know he is in control and if i get better i would be back in the dont need you for everything.I depended on him for everything.I have let him control my pills and it only happened twice I thought he better give them to me or im going to kill him.I left me 3 for the day and didnt know what time he was getting in with his job at that time. found them one of the times he never knew i did and i got like 12 of them out.He came in gave me 2 more thats all for tonight he said.He hide them again in a different spot i didnt find them the next day.i was ok though being i had found them and took some out.The third day he came in i was nutting up.I dsaid im sick as he** and you better give me my bottle and leave me the blank alone.He gave them to me he said take them all up then suffer.I did as always.i worked at this time and hide money bought alot off the street.Anyways what help was i got to learning about my addiction and was telling him little by little.i got some of it through to him.I printed out information and made him read it.It help alittle more.Then found my pys. and made him go with me and he talked to him and explained it as a disease.He has understod alot better now.i so glad in the begining he was like just quit takeing them plain and simple .Go lay in the bed in a few day you will be over it all.So,i would try to talk alittle by little to him about it.Explain its a disease and its a sericous one also.I know men can be hard to make understand things but, this is something he is going to have to atleast learn alittle on and relize its no game.Maybe find a doctor that specializes in addction and take him with you .Another thing here is mentel health i have just learn they can help you and give you information and resouces.I didnt know of this until one week ago.Or our georgia mentel health helps with addiction.I would of thought before know im not mentel and im not going to that place.its for crzy people but,if i didnt have a chioce i would.Infact,im going thier to get put of anti=depretion.My doctor has told me to go to them that for most its free service.You get the meds. from thier office. So,im going to call them soon them may even have aa/na meeting.So,im checking it out.I wish you the best of luck I know myself if my husband wouldnt of finally come around to some understanding we wouldnt be togerther today.I know its hard on you and it seems like no one understands you.But, we here at the board are wuth you 100%.I hope i have been help to you.I mydelf im on suboxone and i could stay clean cold trukey it can be done many have proven it.I just got tried of falling at it and hveing to pick myself back up.It just made it harder for myself.Suboxone has ben my lifesaver/If you ned to talk email me
lovelytobe23@yahoo.com
Im really off to bed this time good night all,love crystal
p.s. Im sorry if my post is a mess with words im not going back and rereading my eyes are tried...........
lovelytobe23@yahoo.com
Im really off to bed this time good night all,love crystal
p.s. Im sorry if my post is a mess with words im not going back and rereading my eyes are tried...........
Good morning;
Gagry:
The Sub sounds perfect for you - I don't know that much about it - just what I have read on the board. I do know it's expensive - I don't know if that would be a problem, I don't even know the cost but there are quite a few on the board who have used it or they are still on it so they can answer those questions.
If that doesn't work, then w/o the help of your parents or your husband, you need a good friend or do you have any brothers or sisters - anyone who lives close by who you could see at least every other day and would be tough with you and tell you no and not give in to you.
You will probably get mad - maybe a side of you they haven't seen but I promise they will be your best friend when this is over.
Tapering would keep some in your system so you won't feel great but better than none at all.
Do you have a brother, sister, friend, a really good neighbor who wouldn't spread this all over?
Think over all of these peopple - I know you could handle 2 days worth - if you took them all in one day - you wouldn't even have time to get into the bad W/D's in this amt of time. This will also teach you self-control - something you are really going to need after the W/D's.
The withdrawals will be gone one day, thank God but you may still have the bad crazings that so many have - read Gina's post on the thread today. She wrote it last night:
"I Pray I Never Forget"
b/c we do forget and it's dangerous to forget - that may lead to a relapse. I'm going to type what she wrote and keep a copy on my bedside table and put another copy in my Bible marked along with some of my other favorite markers in Ecclesiastes
Chapter 3 - verses 1-8, my favorite verses "A Time to Live and a Time to Die"
I have 4 markers there now that my sons made me in Bible School.
Forgetting the horrible W/D's and all the other bad stuff would be dangerous.
God plays a big part in recovery for me, He's the biggest part. I pray myself to sleep sometimes b/c I have problems sleepling b/c of pain and sometimes I just don't sleep.
When you do, and it's not a druggy sleep once the drugs are out of your system, it will be the best sleep of your life. B/C of pain, some nights, I only sleep 2-3 hours but without the drugs, it is such a wonderful sleep so if you had no sleeping problems before, you are in for a treat, ask any one on the board.
Okay, back to your problem, are any of these people available?
The Sub may be best but I believe some staes don't offer it and they say it cost a lot - ask and someone will tell you - or they will read this and answer on this post.
Won't keep it too long, I know you ahv a lot of decisions to make.
Best of luck and be strong. It takes being as tough as you can be and more but you can do it if you want it bad enough. It won't kill you - pain pills won't by stopping CT - If you areon any bensos like Xanax, etc., you can'tjut stop them, you ahve to stop them with a doctor's care.
Love and good luck.
Don't forget - there is a way - you want this and you want it bad - just
GET TOUGH!!! Gotta put all you've got into this or you won't make it - so pls write me back with your solutions. If you want this bad enough, there is a way and you will find it. You may not want to tell a nice neighbor but if it gets you off drugs, it will br worth any embarressment you may have. This may be the hardest you have ever worked in your life but it will be worth it.
You are very smart to be getting this over while you're young.
Love again, Jean keep in touch.
Gagry:
The Sub sounds perfect for you - I don't know that much about it - just what I have read on the board. I do know it's expensive - I don't know if that would be a problem, I don't even know the cost but there are quite a few on the board who have used it or they are still on it so they can answer those questions.
If that doesn't work, then w/o the help of your parents or your husband, you need a good friend or do you have any brothers or sisters - anyone who lives close by who you could see at least every other day and would be tough with you and tell you no and not give in to you.
You will probably get mad - maybe a side of you they haven't seen but I promise they will be your best friend when this is over.
Tapering would keep some in your system so you won't feel great but better than none at all.
Do you have a brother, sister, friend, a really good neighbor who wouldn't spread this all over?
Think over all of these peopple - I know you could handle 2 days worth - if you took them all in one day - you wouldn't even have time to get into the bad W/D's in this amt of time. This will also teach you self-control - something you are really going to need after the W/D's.
The withdrawals will be gone one day, thank God but you may still have the bad crazings that so many have - read Gina's post on the thread today. She wrote it last night:
"I Pray I Never Forget"
b/c we do forget and it's dangerous to forget - that may lead to a relapse. I'm going to type what she wrote and keep a copy on my bedside table and put another copy in my Bible marked along with some of my other favorite markers in Ecclesiastes
Chapter 3 - verses 1-8, my favorite verses "A Time to Live and a Time to Die"
I have 4 markers there now that my sons made me in Bible School.
Forgetting the horrible W/D's and all the other bad stuff would be dangerous.
God plays a big part in recovery for me, He's the biggest part. I pray myself to sleep sometimes b/c I have problems sleepling b/c of pain and sometimes I just don't sleep.
When you do, and it's not a druggy sleep once the drugs are out of your system, it will be the best sleep of your life. B/C of pain, some nights, I only sleep 2-3 hours but without the drugs, it is such a wonderful sleep so if you had no sleeping problems before, you are in for a treat, ask any one on the board.
Okay, back to your problem, are any of these people available?
The Sub may be best but I believe some staes don't offer it and they say it cost a lot - ask and someone will tell you - or they will read this and answer on this post.
Won't keep it too long, I know you ahv a lot of decisions to make.
Best of luck and be strong. It takes being as tough as you can be and more but you can do it if you want it bad enough. It won't kill you - pain pills won't by stopping CT - If you areon any bensos like Xanax, etc., you can'tjut stop them, you ahve to stop them with a doctor's care.
Love and good luck.
Don't forget - there is a way - you want this and you want it bad - just
GET TOUGH!!! Gotta put all you've got into this or you won't make it - so pls write me back with your solutions. If you want this bad enough, there is a way and you will find it. You may not want to tell a nice neighbor but if it gets you off drugs, it will br worth any embarressment you may have. This may be the hardest you have ever worked in your life but it will be worth it.
You are very smart to be getting this over while you're young.
Love again, Jean keep in touch.
Hi & goodmorning.I know letting go of your normal Dr may be hard but she is NOT helping you it seems like shes not wanting to really help.As for support this board will & can only give so much support.GREAT SUPPORT.Could it be your husband somehow feels tthreatened by you getting sober????mj
Jilly? Are you still around, hon? Sometimes threads go astray but it's still about you and we want to help.
Cowgirl
Cowgirl
Hello to all. I'm still around...just having a rough day today. Have spent most of the day in bed due to a really bad headache and nausea. The Librium my doctor prescribed isn't helping one bit with that...
My husband finally mentioned something this morning about taking me to the ER, and possibly going inpatient. That's a huge step for him to even acknowledge that I need help.
I just get confused. Last week, he had the nerve to say that he hoped I felt horrible, and that he wasn't going to take care of me through this, and then the next day, everything changes. He's constantly doing this to me. I don't even know what to expect most of the time.
Anyway, I really appreciate all of the support...please continue to write..it's keeping me going. Thanks to all of you!
My husband finally mentioned something this morning about taking me to the ER, and possibly going inpatient. That's a huge step for him to even acknowledge that I need help.
I just get confused. Last week, he had the nerve to say that he hoped I felt horrible, and that he wasn't going to take care of me through this, and then the next day, everything changes. He's constantly doing this to me. I don't even know what to expect most of the time.
Anyway, I really appreciate all of the support...please continue to write..it's keeping me going. Thanks to all of you!
