Furious,
WHAAAT??? 32%???? i thought it was more like 75%!!!!...well i got my actual number of pills right, but i guess percentage wrong BUMMER!! you shouldnt have told me...crap!!! ( percentages were never my Forte..LOLOL) Oh well fact is almost 11 days ago ( tomorrow) i have gone from taking 25 ( sometimes 30) a day to 8 a day....yesterday i took 4 but woke up feeling so bad that stuck to the dose of 8 ( thats 4 pills 2x a day) whatever percentage that is....im happy...you should be too!!!!!!
So good hearing from you !!!! Stay in touch!!!
hugs,
ali
When you calculate the drop, it is the percentage of the opiate content that you are tapering. Most peopel drop in 10% incremenst until they hit a point where they have to drop in smaller increcements. Drops of 30% are extremely high so if you are managing that you are very fortunate.
hey silent partner,
sorry i quoted the wrong percentage earlier....but glad its still good...I wonder if its the fact that they are short acting pills that have made me capable of such a drop, and the same with erratic.....
Anyway im just happy that ive managed this so well so far and will try not to worry too much about anything else..im such a worry wart....started thinking "Why am i able to do this NOW???? if its not the aminos or vitamins, maybe its because God has something really bad planed for me and he wants me to be thinking clearly qand off of drugs to deal with it" Hows that for worrying?????LOLOL oh well now that i said it it wont happen....lol
Thanks for confirming its still a good drop....you sound like you know your stuff...and your percentages..lol
Hugs,
Ali
sorry i quoted the wrong percentage earlier....but glad its still good...I wonder if its the fact that they are short acting pills that have made me capable of such a drop, and the same with erratic.....
Anyway im just happy that ive managed this so well so far and will try not to worry too much about anything else..im such a worry wart....started thinking "Why am i able to do this NOW???? if its not the aminos or vitamins, maybe its because God has something really bad planed for me and he wants me to be thinking clearly qand off of drugs to deal with it" Hows that for worrying?????LOLOL oh well now that i said it it wont happen....lol
Thanks for confirming its still a good drop....you sound like you know your stuff...and your percentages..lol
Hugs,
Ali
Hi Ali, Great Job...your very disaplined and fortunate. I have heard where some w/d are just not that hard...you must be hittin it right.
Silent Partner...Nice you see you!!!!!!!!!!
Silent Partner...Nice you see you!!!!!!!!!!
i am impressed with your determination.......keep trudging
i never tried to taper off before i got clean.....but there were many times were i had over indulged, or mis-calculated, and found my self becoming increasingly "dope-sick" i can remember times, where i was breaking pills into quarters, just to keep from getting sick......
gather your strength now,
there was a big difference for me and my body between "a little" and "nothing"
just passing on some experience
i never tried to taper off before i got clean.....but there were many times were i had over indulged, or mis-calculated, and found my self becoming increasingly "dope-sick" i can remember times, where i was breaking pills into quarters, just to keep from getting sick......
gather your strength now,
there was a big difference for me and my body between "a little" and "nothing"
just passing on some experience
dear wiverson,
Thanks for the encouragemt!!
hangin 42day,
I know that when i get down to 6, then 5 then 3, 2, 1 that will of course be the deal breaker.....sigh...gotta concentrate on the fact that i been blessed with a totally new frame of mind...to stay on a taper for 11 days tomorrw, was something i couldnt have had the will or the guts do to or even TRY many times before,,,,,,
i am very afraid of going down to that lower jumping off mark, but in a strange way excited too....please please send me combined strength from those who have all been so kind and suportive.....im also going to look pretty stupid, being so: "yippeee ive dropped so much and actaully missed a dose..etc....."only to fall flat on my face....if i get even ONE "TOLD YOU SO" lolol oh god please let this last,,,,please dont let me become weak or doubtful as to my goal...let the succes continue!!!!!
Everyone says its so rare,,,maybe it is too good to be true and wont last??
oh god..cant think that way....
i have hope. i will cling to it,,,,
Hugs,
Ali
Thanks for the encouragemt!!
hangin 42day,
I know that when i get down to 6, then 5 then 3, 2, 1 that will of course be the deal breaker.....sigh...gotta concentrate on the fact that i been blessed with a totally new frame of mind...to stay on a taper for 11 days tomorrw, was something i couldnt have had the will or the guts do to or even TRY many times before,,,,,,
i am very afraid of going down to that lower jumping off mark, but in a strange way excited too....please please send me combined strength from those who have all been so kind and suportive.....im also going to look pretty stupid, being so: "yippeee ive dropped so much and actaully missed a dose..etc....."only to fall flat on my face....if i get even ONE "TOLD YOU SO" lolol oh god please let this last,,,,please dont let me become weak or doubtful as to my goal...let the succes continue!!!!!
Everyone says its so rare,,,maybe it is too good to be true and wont last??
oh god..cant think that way....
i have hope. i will cling to it,,,,
Hugs,
Ali
hey everyone,
last night was horrible....knew it was too good to be true, my back and neck have been bothering me since ive cut back 11 days ago, but for some reason I didnt asociate it with withdrawals..just thought I had thrown something out..
last night i had so many muscls spasms in my back,even my calves, felt like red hot pokers jabbinginto my muscles, at 3:00 am i hobbled out of bed and took 2 robaxacet ( otc) but couldnt keep them down...at 5:00 i took 2 pills...the muscle spasms stopped and finally i could sleep.I was crying not at the pain but at the fact that I had to take the bloddypills....maybe im just doing it toofast as many have indicated..
yesterday instead of the taper of 8 i had 7...thinking i could handle it easily. big mistake...very discouraging...wonder if it is okay to see my dr and get a muscle relaxant to see me through this or do i just take 2 of the 8 pills per day at night before i go to bed? i dont know....im so bummed out...
still for 11 days ive gone down from 25-30 pills a day and maintained a taper that physcologically hasnt been hard till now...guess i need to concentrate on the postive...just wanted others to know it isnt all goingas great as i thought.
Hugs,
Ali
last night was horrible....knew it was too good to be true, my back and neck have been bothering me since ive cut back 11 days ago, but for some reason I didnt asociate it with withdrawals..just thought I had thrown something out..
last night i had so many muscls spasms in my back,even my calves, felt like red hot pokers jabbinginto my muscles, at 3:00 am i hobbled out of bed and took 2 robaxacet ( otc) but couldnt keep them down...at 5:00 i took 2 pills...the muscle spasms stopped and finally i could sleep.I was crying not at the pain but at the fact that I had to take the bloddypills....maybe im just doing it toofast as many have indicated..
yesterday instead of the taper of 8 i had 7...thinking i could handle it easily. big mistake...very discouraging...wonder if it is okay to see my dr and get a muscle relaxant to see me through this or do i just take 2 of the 8 pills per day at night before i go to bed? i dont know....im so bummed out...
still for 11 days ive gone down from 25-30 pills a day and maintained a taper that physcologically hasnt been hard till now...guess i need to concentrate on the postive...just wanted others to know it isnt all goingas great as i thought.
Hugs,
Ali
My last taper was when my wife caught me with pills on vacation in Florida. God was that ugly! I don't ever want to forget the humiliation and shame...having to tell my m-i-l, cancelling our 10th anniversary plans.
Anyway, my wife took all of my pills. I had gotten back up to 10-12 10mg hydro's per day. This was on a Tuesday night, and we weren't flying home till Saturday night.
She gave me 10 pills and said suck it up for the rest of vacation. So I took 2 a day for 5 days. Somehow I was able to function during the day...at night I was a mess. I don't ever want to forget how painful that was - physically and emotionally.
Jim
Anyway, my wife took all of my pills. I had gotten back up to 10-12 10mg hydro's per day. This was on a Tuesday night, and we weren't flying home till Saturday night.
She gave me 10 pills and said suck it up for the rest of vacation. So I took 2 a day for 5 days. Somehow I was able to function during the day...at night I was a mess. I don't ever want to forget how painful that was - physically and emotionally.
Jim
Dear jim
Thankyou for sharing that..Why would it have to be nights that are so tough? seems cruel as this is when we need to sleep and get energy to face the next day....You are lucky to have such a wife. How long have you been off the pain pills?
Ali
Thankyou for sharing that..Why would it have to be nights that are so tough? seems cruel as this is when we need to sleep and get energy to face the next day....You are lucky to have such a wife. How long have you been off the pain pills?
Ali
Ali, I am reading that you are tapering. Are you following the tapering schedule that I told you about. You can do a faster taper as I did and the w/d will not be so bad. You should not have seizures coming off of opiates but you need to follow what your body is telling you to do. Good Luck, it sounds as though you have a very strong desire to kick this habit and I wish you nothing but good luck and success.
GIDGET!!!!!!!
Im so happy to hear from you....your advise has been with me EVERY SINGLE DAY.....even though i dontr know you, you have really impacted me.
How much faster did you taper??? I will and can do any amount that is safe, but am scared about that seizure thing since i still have my arm or leg jerk out on me for no reason 2-3 times a day..
Did you read that the other day i FORGOT to take my 2nd dose???? Didnt think it was even POSSIBLE.....Its like God is really helping me out right now because my bone pain has been almost non exsistent ( original reason for taking them) but last night Gidget I had the worst muscle spasms Ive ever had...felt like red hot pokers stabbing me....i tried an OTC muscle relazant but couodnt keep it down finally at around 5 this morning took 2 pills and it finally disipated....
Anyway, a usual dose is 4 pills ( 8 mg per pill ) and i take it once around 10 am then the 2nd dose at around 4:00 p.m. Yesterday i cut back the 1 pill you suggested and took 3 the first dose and 4 the 2nd....Am i doing that right?
Please Gidget tell me how you did a faster one, you seem to know exactly what pain pill im on and id love to know how you did yours and how long you have been off of them for good.......
Thankyou soooo much for checking back in with me.I am grateful
Hugs
Ali
Im so happy to hear from you....your advise has been with me EVERY SINGLE DAY.....even though i dontr know you, you have really impacted me.
How much faster did you taper??? I will and can do any amount that is safe, but am scared about that seizure thing since i still have my arm or leg jerk out on me for no reason 2-3 times a day..
Did you read that the other day i FORGOT to take my 2nd dose???? Didnt think it was even POSSIBLE.....Its like God is really helping me out right now because my bone pain has been almost non exsistent ( original reason for taking them) but last night Gidget I had the worst muscle spasms Ive ever had...felt like red hot pokers stabbing me....i tried an OTC muscle relazant but couodnt keep it down finally at around 5 this morning took 2 pills and it finally disipated....
Anyway, a usual dose is 4 pills ( 8 mg per pill ) and i take it once around 10 am then the 2nd dose at around 4:00 p.m. Yesterday i cut back the 1 pill you suggested and took 3 the first dose and 4 the 2nd....Am i doing that right?
Please Gidget tell me how you did a faster one, you seem to know exactly what pain pill im on and id love to know how you did yours and how long you have been off of them for good.......
Thankyou soooo much for checking back in with me.I am grateful
Hugs
Ali
Ali, first of all let me say that the leg and arm jerks are withdrawal symptoms. They have nothing at all to do with a seizure. I know that they are very uncomfortable but they will pass. I tapered from 6 pills a day to none in one week. Yes, that was a fast taper, but when I got down to taking half of a pill in the morning and half of a pill in the afternoon, after a few days of doing that, I just tossed them and got it over with. I understand that you can't cut the Dilaudid in half, they are about the size of bb's, too small. If I were you, I would just continue to taper as fast as possible. You will have some withdrawal symptoms as you have already described and you will probably have some body aches and diarrhea. GET SOME GRAVOL, it will help. Also, you may have some restless nights but they will subside. Keep taking your supplements and get something for the body aches and headaches, something like Tylenol or Advil. I have read your other post and saw where you missed your regularlly scheduled dose and I think that is great. You are going to make it. Many will tell you that tapering is almost impossible but I found that I was able to achieve sobriety this way without going through the terrible withdrawals that I had experienced in the past when going cold turkey. I was addicted to Oxycontin and Fentynl and Hydrocodone and came off of those drugs cold turkey during the beginning of the year. Needless to say, it was a living Hell for several weeks. Yes, I failed as I began using again, not Oxy or Fentnyl this go around, just Hydrocodone. This go around, I have only been clean for a few weeks, but a few weeks is better than none at all and hopefully this will be my last merry go round ride. Hang in there and just keep cutting back. When you get down to almost nothing, just dump the pills and suffer through a few days of misery, it will not be that bad and you will feel so much better about your success. I am wishing you the best. Good Luck.
One more thing, instead of doing 3 in the am and 4 in the pm see if you can do 3 and 3 for a few days and see how you feel. Hopefully, you won't have much discomfort trying it this way.
One more thing, instead of doing 3 in the am and 4 in the pm see if you can do 3 and 3 for a few days and see how you feel. Hopefully, you won't have much discomfort trying it this way.
gidget.
Thankyou. Im proud of you..and 3 weeks armed with your relapse experience just made you all the more determined...i identify with that so much..identiify with you so much.....great going, and your right i am going to make it....ive never been more determined than i am now.
Thankyou so much for taking the time to share your story and advise. I am forever grateful to you and hope I can repay you some day in some way.
will keep you posted on this thread if thats okay with you.
Hugs,
Ali
Thankyou. Im proud of you..and 3 weeks armed with your relapse experience just made you all the more determined...i identify with that so much..identiify with you so much.....great going, and your right i am going to make it....ive never been more determined than i am now.
Thankyou so much for taking the time to share your story and advise. I am forever grateful to you and hope I can repay you some day in some way.
will keep you posted on this thread if thats okay with you.
Hugs,
Ali
6 pills -none... sounds like Pam....
Shut up Tom !!! *wink*
Hi Ali;
I've been clean for 3 1/2 months (give or take).
Keep your eye on the prize! It just gets better.
Jim
I've been clean for 3 1/2 months (give or take).
Keep your eye on the prize! It just gets better.
Jim
LIKE THAT..KEEP MY EYE ON THE PRIZE..LOLOL
thankyou...3 and a half months. Im jealous.
But happy for you.
Its inspiring.
Hugs,
Ali
thankyou...3 and a half months. Im jealous.
But happy for you.
Its inspiring.
Hugs,
Ali
Ali, you will get there, one day at a time. Then someone will come along and tell you that they are jealous of your success. That should make you smile.
Gidget,
You just did.
Thank you.....
Ali
You just did.
Thank you.....
Ali
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