I noticed someone asked about two types of addicts in another thread also, so I wanted some feedback about something a pharmacist told me about addiction and wondered about... I had asked my pharmacist along time ago about getting addicted to pain pills and he told me there were two types of addiction physical addiction and mental addiction.. he said that is someone could go 8 to 12 hours before they take thier next pill then this was mental addiction and if not then it was physical addiction.. Just curious as to what you guys think about this.. Thanks.
Bump because I really would like some feedback to this question..LOL
Paula, I heard the same thing from someone (cant remember who) and they told me that the mental addiction was the hardest to treat (no kidding)
JohnDee
JohnDee
Hi Paula,
Well, the nature of the medecine, Percocet etc. when taken long enough your body will become dependent on it. And usually have to be weaned. Not everyone
that becomes physically dependent on it is an addict. For those that get hooked because a doctor put them on it, and are addicts, it's because an addict will start self medicating, justifying why he/she needs more than percribed etc.
An addict does this simply because we like what the medecine does for us and to us. Thats the mental addiction and thats the difference between someone that takes it as percribed, and someone that self medicates. For me, the first time I took it, was simply for no other reason other than to get high. I asked when I saw a buddy take them what they were, he told me and gave me a few and that was all she wrote. I'm an alcoholic/addict, but when I found those damn pills, I hardly ever drank or did the other stuff I was into anymore. But it is the nature of the medecine, and if a persons body becomes dependant on the meds. that doesn't mean that person is an addict. I hope I explained that right.
Take care............Bob
Well, the nature of the medecine, Percocet etc. when taken long enough your body will become dependent on it. And usually have to be weaned. Not everyone
that becomes physically dependent on it is an addict. For those that get hooked because a doctor put them on it, and are addicts, it's because an addict will start self medicating, justifying why he/she needs more than percribed etc.
An addict does this simply because we like what the medecine does for us and to us. Thats the mental addiction and thats the difference between someone that takes it as percribed, and someone that self medicates. For me, the first time I took it, was simply for no other reason other than to get high. I asked when I saw a buddy take them what they were, he told me and gave me a few and that was all she wrote. I'm an alcoholic/addict, but when I found those damn pills, I hardly ever drank or did the other stuff I was into anymore. But it is the nature of the medecine, and if a persons body becomes dependant on the meds. that doesn't mean that person is an addict. I hope I explained that right.
Take care............Bob
trying ..
what you are describing is ... not physical addiction but the term more accurately is physical dependance.... it is when the body is dependant on the drug. It must have it to function at the 'normal' level. If it doesnt have it then w/d symptoms will emerge. Mental addiction usually comes with or shortly after physical dependance. In most cases it take the body a little longer to get so physically dependant on a drug that it will have w/d symptom if the drug is removed whereas the mental can happen with the second or third experience...(this is in the first time user not an established addict..)
just thought i would explain.
Teresa
what you are describing is ... not physical addiction but the term more accurately is physical dependance.... it is when the body is dependant on the drug. It must have it to function at the 'normal' level. If it doesnt have it then w/d symptoms will emerge. Mental addiction usually comes with or shortly after physical dependance. In most cases it take the body a little longer to get so physically dependant on a drug that it will have w/d symptom if the drug is removed whereas the mental can happen with the second or third experience...(this is in the first time user not an established addict..)
just thought i would explain.
Teresa
I think I understand, LOL.. I have heard my husband say sometimes that he does not like to take his pain medication because it makes him sick, but he takes it because it helps his pain.. Me I take it because of the high I get, so that is more mental, and now my body is dependant on it, because if I dont I will go in to w/d... so I would be more mental then physical.. D*mn.. I am going to shutup LOL.. I am begining to confuse myself.. But I do understand what you guys are saying.. and Thanks so much for the feedback...
Hey Trying4Me..I am the one who posed the question aout 2 types of addicts. I am type 2..started off for one reason but then ended up taking them for years and years for emotional reasons.Dr Phil said this week that all addicts are selfish..that all we care about is relieving our own pain and that we dont cant what it is doing to our families. I agree we are selfish but I also think we do care about others. We are good people..just having difficulties coping and the meds were an easy way out. I wish I was only physically dependent...I think the hard part for me..is yet to come...the emotional.
Lol, don't we all wish that. Our addiction would be over in a few days.
If there are two types....I'm sure I'm both. If there was a third, probably be that also.
I began taking painkillers because of a back injury at work and I could not afford to take time off.Well not only did they turn me into superworker LOL but they made me feel less stressed out and somehow at peace So I think I became both kinds of addicts simotainiously.For sure I spelled that word wrong lol It just made me feel really good both physically and mentally.I think I must have been at a point in my life where I was ripe for the picking because before then I would be prescribed pain killers for headaches etc.. I would take a couple till I didnt need them and they would sit in my medicine cuboard for years.I didnt think twice about them.Does anybody else here know what I mean and have the same kind of experience? Tracey
Tracy I was the same way,I would take a painkiller for a day or two and put the rest away or throw them out, then for some reason three years ago I took them for my back and just kept taking them for three years. I loved the way they made me feel and they gave me tons of energy for work, my story sounds a lot like yours.
Hang in there you can beat this, I did.
JohnDee
Hang in there you can beat this, I did.
JohnDee
Hi John How long have you been clean and how did you finally do it for good?
I did a short term sub detox back in November and quit the sub on Thanksgiving day. The sub did get me over the acute withdrawals but I still felt lethargic and depressed for a while. I started exercising, eating better, getting plenty of rest (that was easy) taking vitamins and supplemenmts and the grip slowly eased.
It takes time but its worth it, I feel the best now that Ive felt in over 3 years.
I know you cant get sub in Canada, you just need to get over that hump and its gets better from there as long as you work at it. I also started counseling which was part of getting on sub and that with some of the freinds I have made here have helped tremendously.
JohnDee
It takes time but its worth it, I feel the best now that Ive felt in over 3 years.
I know you cant get sub in Canada, you just need to get over that hump and its gets better from there as long as you work at it. I also started counseling which was part of getting on sub and that with some of the freinds I have made here have helped tremendously.
JohnDee
Hi Everyone
Tracey, I guess I always liked the way they made me feel, but before I never sought them out if I was prescribed them for a reason I would take them, even after the pain went away, but then I did not think about them after they were gone and never tried to get them ... Until about a year or so ago, when my husband started having to take them for health reasons.. they were always around and I had access to them, it did not matter what he was taking as long as they were pain pills.. now that is all I think about ...
Tracey, I guess I always liked the way they made me feel, but before I never sought them out if I was prescribed them for a reason I would take them, even after the pain went away, but then I did not think about them after they were gone and never tried to get them ... Until about a year or so ago, when my husband started having to take them for health reasons.. they were always around and I had access to them, it did not matter what he was taking as long as they were pain pills.. now that is all I think about ...
Hi Paula they sure do take over your mind dont they I guess the trick is to take our minds back Just gotta keep trying till we get it right. John sub has been aproved in Canada its just gonna take till the end of the year for our doctors to be schooled on it before we can get it. Hopefully Ill be able to get off of them by then but if not at least I know help is on its way.Congrats to you for staying clean it gives me hope when I see others who have done it.Tracey
Morning Paula,
I konow I am mentally addicted because I can bo 12 or 15 hours, but I too take them when I want too the evening is my worse craving. So maybe I am bothe tool But hell together they r a hard combination.
Sorry to jump n your thread
Loveya,
Tina
I konow I am mentally addicted because I can bo 12 or 15 hours, but I too take them when I want too the evening is my worse craving. So maybe I am bothe tool But hell together they r a hard combination.
Sorry to jump n your thread
Loveya,
Tina
