I can only hazard a guess, but methadone takes a fairly long while to get out of your system, so unless you are on sub. only for a long while (until the methadone is out of your body) then yes I would say the methadone withdrawal would just kick straight back in. No getting around it.
I hope that helps. I'm pretty sure it's close to the truth anyway. it's taken me nearly 3 weeks to really start shaking off the misery so yeah. Good luck to you. As in like, almighty strength and determination to get where you want to be.
3 weeks?wow..that pretty long,anyway thank for t
he info..
I got 1 more question,if i fill 30ml pure water into 10mg liquid methadone,how many mg it has become?im on mix 10mg methadone with 30ml water for 7days now..(hope u understand,my english is f*cking bad) loll
he info..
I got 1 more question,if i fill 30ml pure water into 10mg liquid methadone,how many mg it has become?im on mix 10mg methadone with 30ml water for 7days now..(hope u understand,my english is f*cking bad) loll
your English is fine with me. well it's the same amount as before just more diluted. It only becomes less if you split the dose in half or thirds or something. Is that what you meant?
it is still 10mg no matter what you add to it
Ohh i see..i thought it will become 5mg..thanks again.. :)
any time.
http://youtu.be/s10ldVRHRSw.
the man in me Bob Dylan. Man. Whoever the woman was that he was singing about, he really treasured her. That's it, I'm getting the chords and learning it. I'm gonna sing it for my wife *wink* hahaha. I'm mean lalala (it's in the song)
the man in me Bob Dylan. Man. Whoever the woman was that he was singing about, he really treasured her. That's it, I'm getting the chords and learning it. I'm gonna sing it for my wife *wink* hahaha. I'm mean lalala (it's in the song)
That's awesome, I'm glad that I've said things to help even mildly or temporarily, cause going through this is no joke! And I'm glad to hear you're feeling better. Spent time with your mom and all. That is one thing I appreciate so much more now, my friendships /relationships with people.Not that I didn't before but I seem to value them more, go out of my way to contact people more, can't really explain it any other way then that. That's funny Bob Dylan, last week my boyfriend was playing guitar and I was singing. He was making fun of me telling me I was singing like dylan, my sister
walks past us and says 'um I'm pretty sure neither of you sound like Bob Dylan'
totally bashing my vocal ability! Ha
walks past us and says 'um I'm pretty sure neither of you sound like Bob Dylan'
totally bashing my vocal ability! Ha
I know what you mean wi the people thing. haha that's excellent, I'm now totally curious to hear Dylan's husky rambling style done in a female voice. za mahn oh zabba doo, nee pon samma tow hahaha
bah tabba semma nah, sippa tone hep mi now, azza bahn mo tahm to dah, happy tahm semma now, I'm onna rahd inna meppa tay..... dammit, it's turning into pootie tang...
Ok so it's 2am, I'm a day shy of 3 weeks. All the wd's I was having are now all the way down to just a mild unpleasantness. I am struggling with not being able to sleep for long when I get tired, and not being able to sustain much physical activity when I'm not, but that also tells me that I AM getting my energy back, I'm just still held back by my body trying hard to detox and readjust to life without the chemical crutch.
So I am getting back to thinking about how I am going to stay clean. Right now, that side of things is smooth sailing. I have no cravings, and the idea of taking anything that will hinder my progress is repellant. What I am feeling is a real desire to be healthy. As in having energy to be productive and do the things I want to do, and to get a full nights sleep. So obviously my focus right now is on getting clean and healthy.
However, If I don't keep my eyes open, than can quickly and subtly turn into, how can I get energy to do stuff? and how can I get a good nights sleep. When I start thinking like that, I'm not thinking about my health anymore. I'm thinking about relief and short term gain. THATS the danger. I think we all know how intelligently and cunningly our own minds can start to turn our convictions around. To the point where, eventually, it makes so much sense to take drugs/meds, that it would be stupid and illogical not to. That part of my brain has an answer for everything.
So yeah. I am still on guard, big time. But also very aware that guards can get complacent and fall asleep sometimes. I'm not trying to work out the answers right now. I have a ton of info, suggestions, techniques and ideas. I'm just trying to turn it over in my mind and figure out how to keep wanting to use all that good knowledge when my body/mind is screaming for an immediate solution. Anyway feeling better and stronger all the time.
So I am getting back to thinking about how I am going to stay clean. Right now, that side of things is smooth sailing. I have no cravings, and the idea of taking anything that will hinder my progress is repellant. What I am feeling is a real desire to be healthy. As in having energy to be productive and do the things I want to do, and to get a full nights sleep. So obviously my focus right now is on getting clean and healthy.
However, If I don't keep my eyes open, than can quickly and subtly turn into, how can I get energy to do stuff? and how can I get a good nights sleep. When I start thinking like that, I'm not thinking about my health anymore. I'm thinking about relief and short term gain. THATS the danger. I think we all know how intelligently and cunningly our own minds can start to turn our convictions around. To the point where, eventually, it makes so much sense to take drugs/meds, that it would be stupid and illogical not to. That part of my brain has an answer for everything.
So yeah. I am still on guard, big time. But also very aware that guards can get complacent and fall asleep sometimes. I'm not trying to work out the answers right now. I have a ton of info, suggestions, techniques and ideas. I'm just trying to turn it over in my mind and figure out how to keep wanting to use all that good knowledge when my body/mind is screaming for an immediate solution. Anyway feeling better and stronger all the time.
I just want this to be forever, but the last time I said never again, it only made me want it more. So, feeling like it IS forever this time, but tentative about challenging my addictive side to a battle of wills and wiles.
oogum boogum oogum boogum oogum now baby your casting your spell on me.
'Watch the things you dooo' yes keep listening to good music! Anyway you are acknowledging everything& you don't have cravings so that's nothing but good. Try not to compare last time with this time. Look at the differences: you said you had it hell of a lot easier last time round, which I think makes easier for people to go back, though I guess could be the opposite too, just depends on person. You've made it this far, you know you don't want to go back. Hmm...you said something about looking at it as forever. Does that make it more difficult? AA/Na 'one day at a time saying' personally I didn't look at it like that I told myself I was done for good!! Though you better believe I kept track of days, with writing a little calender to keep track. Would get confused after stopped using calander, just write number of days on random papers&get frustrated and look back at calander and count from beginning again. maybe I was subconsciously doing day by day, but really think it was me being obsessive on knowing how many days time went by. 3 weeks is good, at the same time 3 weeks probably feels like much longer. Sleep gonna take awhile, each time you start getting a little more sleep you will appreciate even if just half hour more. Your focusing wanting to be healthy.I got so fixated, probably more obsessed with food,vitamins,herbal supplements at one point. Instead of a pharmacy I became a mini health shop and probably drove everyone crazy talking about it! But hey not worst thing to get fixated on right? Anyway from everything you've posted I can tell you want this now, sure you did before too, but maybe this time round your eyes are more open through experience so far, that's what I think I can tell anyway.
Maybe I knew it was coming. But it's 4am and someone came over high. And there it was, the first question that popped into my head was, s*** I can take that. That wouldnt hurt me. Just a little bit. I should ask if they have any left. As soon as I Realised what my head was doing, I had a wave of fear and disappointment wash over me.
I never asked if they had any for me, and the moment/interaction passed. But here I am sitting in the dark, watching AFL, quietly seething with rage. It's ok, I've been here before many times. It's a part of me and I can handle it. I'm not even upset AT anyone. But yeah, sometimes it's a choice with me. I either let myself soften and cry my eyes out, or I go cold and I rage. It's a bit of a roller coaster.
I kind of had to learn how to handle the Agro in me over the years. Like if I were to act on it now and try to express it, I would have to destroy something/someone. If I try to ignore it or make it go away, it becomes unpredictable. I don't want to do that, I don't want to go there, but once it wakes up in me it takes awhile to bed it back down. So, I remove myself from anyone who has the potential to make me snap, and I sit and I rage. I'm not even depressed. It's just there. And like everYthing, it will pass. Again I'm not looking for answers. Im just getting s*** off my chest.
Sve dobro!
I never asked if they had any for me, and the moment/interaction passed. But here I am sitting in the dark, watching AFL, quietly seething with rage. It's ok, I've been here before many times. It's a part of me and I can handle it. I'm not even upset AT anyone. But yeah, sometimes it's a choice with me. I either let myself soften and cry my eyes out, or I go cold and I rage. It's a bit of a roller coaster.
I kind of had to learn how to handle the Agro in me over the years. Like if I were to act on it now and try to express it, I would have to destroy something/someone. If I try to ignore it or make it go away, it becomes unpredictable. I don't want to do that, I don't want to go there, but once it wakes up in me it takes awhile to bed it back down. So, I remove myself from anyone who has the potential to make me snap, and I sit and I rage. I'm not even depressed. It's just there. And like everYthing, it will pass. Again I'm not looking for answers. Im just getting s*** off my chest.
Sve dobro!
I was still typing when your last post came through. Yeah you hit it all on the head again. I could go through everything you said, but basically it was all on the money. I don't know if it makes it harder or not but that's why I'm not gonna march around telling myself and anyone who will listen that I'm done forever. Not because I doubt it, but because it makes me want to rebel against it.
So I will try to just know that I am done but not provoke anything. My addiction is like a crazy man with a gun in the next room. Don't wanna say the wrong thing and set him off.
So I will try to just know that I am done but not provoke anything. My addiction is like a crazy man with a gun in the next room. Don't wanna say the wrong thing and set him off.
Ok so be proud of yourself that you didn't cave. Temptations are always going to be there, especially if people are around with or on those temptation. I honestly was more worried about giving in to something else. After I quit I sold methadone to one person for a long time,dumb choice but didn't phase me. When my friend came over with his water bottle full of vodka, took a big swig of that. Left at that though fortunately. I just wanted to feel calm when I was going through monster mood swings. Alcohol seemed to tempt me more and I used to drink a lot and I know I can't. Weird thing when I was going through stuff moving, I found a bag with 4 Percocet. My heart was racing away and I was affected by it even though was still selling methadone and norcos I got filled for teeth. I think because I wasn't expecting to find them, I don't know. Triggers are strange, knowing what they are I guess is best. I'm still trying to learn to deal with anger,it's hard I don't think I was like that before pills, had a tempor no doubt, but not like this. Keep your head up man.
Just remembered something actually. When I was going through it and got super bothered by something. Guy I was with at time would get really bad migraines. He usually took codeine I believe for them. He got one and had nothing asked for a done. He hadn't ever taken any strong opiate. Gave him a small dose and watched him go from feeling like sh** to super smiley. It HIGHLY irradiated me to say least. I didn't want him in pain but seeing him high off it I'm sure while I was suffering sucked!!! Just remembered that, thought I'd add. Again my dumbass fault for still having some in house!
Maybe when you found that bag, it put back in that old headspace just for sec and freaked you out. Yeah the booze too. My family sends me home made rakija (plum brandy) so I always have litres of it around the house. I mean I never was hooked on it, but when I was younger I used to drink and fight or black out and trash phone boxes or cars whatever. I mean I don't do that anymore, I rarely drink, but over the years there have been times when I was really flipping out, and I would just start smashing down shots (it's about 70-80%) Until I went crazy. The last time it happened I was apparently calm and drinking one second, then all of a sudden I started smashing the bottle and shot glass with my fists until they smashed, and just kept going. Bandaged hands n' stitches for weeks blah blah.
God, I sound like a total psycho. But anyway, when I'm not handling stuff it's like, anything to get me out of the place I am in. Even if it's worse! just get me out of here! bloody Fast slow trippy lovey crazy Agro anything. So when you say it's more about other things, yeah absolutely. I can stay off opiates but what about everything else? The stuff I never had a problem with is most dangerous for me coz in my mind I'm saying what's the harm? But the harm is probly worse when you're doing anything everything else.
Anyway, I'm calmer than I was back then but it's still there. Swimming around in my head/chest like a shark looking for something to feed on, never staying still.
God, I sound like a total psycho. But anyway, when I'm not handling stuff it's like, anything to get me out of the place I am in. Even if it's worse! just get me out of here! bloody Fast slow trippy lovey crazy Agro anything. So when you say it's more about other things, yeah absolutely. I can stay off opiates but what about everything else? The stuff I never had a problem with is most dangerous for me coz in my mind I'm saying what's the harm? But the harm is probly worse when you're doing anything everything else.
Anyway, I'm calmer than I was back then but it's still there. Swimming around in my head/chest like a shark looking for something to feed on, never staying still.
7am, You know what? please tell me if you catch me bulls***ting, anyone, everyone, but, the way you're supposed to drink it (rakija) is like, a small shot in the morning to warm up before breakfast and tease your appetite, just sipping. And then maybe one before or after dinner. Could be medicinal. I dunno, I might just have one and see. if my eyes go wide and I start REALLY enjoying it, I will just put it away.
