I'm not sure where to post this but I'd like some opinions from people with drug & alcohol addictions.... I usually post on the families board.
I've been reading about all the bad things about these over the counter cough syrups.... I gave my daughter (now 33) Robitussin, Tussin etc. ALOT from a little tot on. She was always sick with a cough. I know when she was a teen she used to tell me she & her friend would get high off drinking it.... that really shocked me, because I used to use it alot too for MY coughs & never had a problem or felt high -- sometimes I would use more than necessary too, hoping it would help faster... still no effect on me.... I know her addiction really isn't my fault because I didn't know any better with this type of product and they weren't saying these bad things about these syrups back then --- in fact even the doctors ENCOURAGED it -- but in your opinion could this have contributed to her addiction to opiates, crack, alcohol?
Welcome, lightacandle. I am a recovering alcoholic closing in on my ninth month of recovery sharing my experience, strength and hope that others might find that there are folks out here who understand.
If you're looking for a way to blame yourself for this disease, I'd look toward genetics, first. Offspring of alcoholics are far more likely to adopt the same behaviors--and temperance. I personally know of people that used to drink mouthwash by the bottle as their drug of choice. Still other recovering alcoholics say to stay away from the likes of NyQuil, vanilla, and other household items (to include liquid shoe polish) that have alcohol in them as well as pain killers, diet pills, and any other Mood Altering Drug (MAD) that one can develop an addiction transferrence.
Drinking/Drugging is NOT the core problem. Most recovering from an addiction will say they've got a "Thinking problem, not a drinking problem," and, once the physical cravings of the addiction are gone, there's still the obsession of the mind to deal with--and THAT is far harder to reach. Many addictive behaviours can be curbed while in a rehab clinic but, once the individual is released, if the mental part hasn't been addressed or they're not willing to address it, it'll re-engage with a fury--and the addiction will take on even MORE fervor and purpose.
Most of the Oldtimers I know, as well as the Big Book (which is packed with more wisdom on over coming addiction than any shrink I ever visited), say that until the person has hit their bottom and reached "That jumping off point where they can neither see their lives with alcohol or without it," there's not alot that can be done. I've watched plenty of parent who blame themselves try as try can to get their child help or to force them with an Intervention. While that may educate the person on the addictions (the AAs I talk with in groups consider rehab clinics, "whiskey school,"), there's still the internal comittment from inside to make some fundamental changes in one's life. Not everyone gets it--or believes they have a problem.
Sorry I've yammered on about this--I hope there is something you can take away from it. I've wrestled with various addictions since I was a teen--35 years, in fact. It's a heart-wrenching vision, too. I watch Intervention on A&E Television on a regular basis, too, and every single one of those addictions are real. Alcohol may be the grand-daddy of them all, but the symptoms of addiction are pretty much the same once the physical differences are isolated, in my opinon.
As with everything, take what you can use from my experience. If I can be of any further help, my e-mail is on my website that is on my profile. Feel free to e-me--just put ARG Comments in the subject field so I don't check it with all the SPAM.
Good luck.
S
If you're looking for a way to blame yourself for this disease, I'd look toward genetics, first. Offspring of alcoholics are far more likely to adopt the same behaviors--and temperance. I personally know of people that used to drink mouthwash by the bottle as their drug of choice. Still other recovering alcoholics say to stay away from the likes of NyQuil, vanilla, and other household items (to include liquid shoe polish) that have alcohol in them as well as pain killers, diet pills, and any other Mood Altering Drug (MAD) that one can develop an addiction transferrence.
Drinking/Drugging is NOT the core problem. Most recovering from an addiction will say they've got a "Thinking problem, not a drinking problem," and, once the physical cravings of the addiction are gone, there's still the obsession of the mind to deal with--and THAT is far harder to reach. Many addictive behaviours can be curbed while in a rehab clinic but, once the individual is released, if the mental part hasn't been addressed or they're not willing to address it, it'll re-engage with a fury--and the addiction will take on even MORE fervor and purpose.
Most of the Oldtimers I know, as well as the Big Book (which is packed with more wisdom on over coming addiction than any shrink I ever visited), say that until the person has hit their bottom and reached "That jumping off point where they can neither see their lives with alcohol or without it," there's not alot that can be done. I've watched plenty of parent who blame themselves try as try can to get their child help or to force them with an Intervention. While that may educate the person on the addictions (the AAs I talk with in groups consider rehab clinics, "whiskey school,"), there's still the internal comittment from inside to make some fundamental changes in one's life. Not everyone gets it--or believes they have a problem.
Sorry I've yammered on about this--I hope there is something you can take away from it. I've wrestled with various addictions since I was a teen--35 years, in fact. It's a heart-wrenching vision, too. I watch Intervention on A&E Television on a regular basis, too, and every single one of those addictions are real. Alcohol may be the grand-daddy of them all, but the symptoms of addiction are pretty much the same once the physical differences are isolated, in my opinon.
As with everything, take what you can use from my experience. If I can be of any further help, my e-mail is on my website that is on my profile. Feel free to e-me--just put ARG Comments in the subject field so I don't check it with all the SPAM.
Good luck.
S
I wanted to watch the Intervention episode about the preacher's son who was shooting coke, but didn't want to awaken any demons. Anyone see it?
Hi
Today by the Grace of God I have been sober for two week. As a recovering alocholic I can smypathize with your daughter and you. I don't think you are in any way responsible for your daughter's addiction. We are sick people that have a disease. It is also a disease that tells us we don't have one. I know where you are coming from as a parent. As parents we feel we should have been able to protect our children from anything that is harmful. I think you are feeling this way because you feel helpless.Placing blame on yourself is not going to help your daughter any.You have to live in the present and you can do this by helping your daughter get the treatment she needs. However as I guess you are aware she HERSELF has to want that treatment. Nothing will help her unless she is willing to help herself. This is a terrible disease that affects so many. My heart goes out to you. Pray for strength and pray for your daughter . I have been on this site for almost 2 weeks now and I have gathered strength and encouragment from the wonderful people on this site. I hope and pray that your daughter and you will do the same. God bless and be safe.
Today by the Grace of God I have been sober for two week. As a recovering alocholic I can smypathize with your daughter and you. I don't think you are in any way responsible for your daughter's addiction. We are sick people that have a disease. It is also a disease that tells us we don't have one. I know where you are coming from as a parent. As parents we feel we should have been able to protect our children from anything that is harmful. I think you are feeling this way because you feel helpless.Placing blame on yourself is not going to help your daughter any.You have to live in the present and you can do this by helping your daughter get the treatment she needs. However as I guess you are aware she HERSELF has to want that treatment. Nothing will help her unless she is willing to help herself. This is a terrible disease that affects so many. My heart goes out to you. Pray for strength and pray for your daughter . I have been on this site for almost 2 weeks now and I have gathered strength and encouragment from the wonderful people on this site. I hope and pray that your daughter and you will do the same. God bless and be safe.
When you said it's a "thinking disease"...that really struck me. The counselor at the reahab my son attended said that to him. He told him that things hadn't been right (and pointed to his head) for a long time...have they?? He hit the core with my son...I saw him (for once) not argue back or try to one up him...
that's when I began to understand a little...it's a disease of the mind, body and soul. The physical addiction is a small segment of it. It's not wanting to live life on life's terms.
I remember when he first stopped using and something really hurt him...I could tell he used. He didn't deal. He used. There is nothing I could say or do to change what he was going to do.
I believe that my prayers did indeed help and I believe that's all the help that would do any good. Like you, but in a different way, I tried everything else.
Until he dealt with his mind and learned how to live life and not use life there was nothing anyone could do. It had to come from him.
Thanks for posting...
that's when I began to understand a little...it's a disease of the mind, body and soul. The physical addiction is a small segment of it. It's not wanting to live life on life's terms.
I remember when he first stopped using and something really hurt him...I could tell he used. He didn't deal. He used. There is nothing I could say or do to change what he was going to do.
I believe that my prayers did indeed help and I believe that's all the help that would do any good. Like you, but in a different way, I tried everything else.
Until he dealt with his mind and learned how to live life and not use life there was nothing anyone could do. It had to come from him.
Thanks for posting...
Hi, Gailadk.
Yeah, the first time I heard that I was floored. My sponsor told me to read, "The Doctor's Opinion," in the Big Book after I'd been dry for about 6 months. DING!! It's an allergy that says I don't have an allergy! And it's the obsession to get it at any costs that constantly threw me back into the game. It wasn't just alcohol until nearing my sobriety date when I was simply sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Life on life's terms. Tis a bitter pill to swallow when we want it all, want it now, and want everyone to bow to us or just quit hurting us or stop telling us what to do. It's a horribly selfish affliction and, the more I was in myself, the more unhappy I became.
My sponsor (a 7 time loser, MD, user of all things medical and otherwise) told me that the only thing that quieted, "The Committee," was The Program. Getting outside the selfishness that all addicts cultivate--until they've isolated themselves from everything but death. Many make it--and many don't. But he said to me, "Just play the tape all the way through the consequences," when I started trying to recover and, "Just how WOULD your world be if you got everything you though you deserved?"
Life on life's terms. Acceptance. That kicked my a** into sobriety.
Yeah, the first time I heard that I was floored. My sponsor told me to read, "The Doctor's Opinion," in the Big Book after I'd been dry for about 6 months. DING!! It's an allergy that says I don't have an allergy! And it's the obsession to get it at any costs that constantly threw me back into the game. It wasn't just alcohol until nearing my sobriety date when I was simply sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Life on life's terms. Tis a bitter pill to swallow when we want it all, want it now, and want everyone to bow to us or just quit hurting us or stop telling us what to do. It's a horribly selfish affliction and, the more I was in myself, the more unhappy I became.
My sponsor (a 7 time loser, MD, user of all things medical and otherwise) told me that the only thing that quieted, "The Committee," was The Program. Getting outside the selfishness that all addicts cultivate--until they've isolated themselves from everything but death. Many make it--and many don't. But he said to me, "Just play the tape all the way through the consequences," when I started trying to recover and, "Just how WOULD your world be if you got everything you though you deserved?"
Life on life's terms. Acceptance. That kicked my a** into sobriety.
Good posts, SKG....
As I look back, I was an alcoholic/addict before I ever took that first drink...for me, there was no line to cross, I dove in head first...I never, ever remember in my childhood feeling comfortable in my own skin...always felt like I didn't fit in, that I wasn't good enough...I carried that deep fear (of what??) around always...
I am one of the chosen...why, I have no idea but I do know, by the Grace of God, I am clean and sober and can look at my sobriety as a true blessing, not as a curse....
I liked what you said Gail....
Part of it for me wasn't "not wanting to live life on life's terms" because as I watched my friends and family, I so wanted to live life on life's terms, I just didn't know how...The program has given me the coping skills and a fellowship willing to teach me today and I am deeply grateful for the 12 steps and the fellowship....
Enjoy your day, everyone...
xoxo
Stacey
As I look back, I was an alcoholic/addict before I ever took that first drink...for me, there was no line to cross, I dove in head first...I never, ever remember in my childhood feeling comfortable in my own skin...always felt like I didn't fit in, that I wasn't good enough...I carried that deep fear (of what??) around always...
I am one of the chosen...why, I have no idea but I do know, by the Grace of God, I am clean and sober and can look at my sobriety as a true blessing, not as a curse....
I liked what you said Gail....
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| it's a disease of the mind, body and soul. The physical addiction is a small segment of it. It's not wanting to live life on life's terms. |
Part of it for me wasn't "not wanting to live life on life's terms" because as I watched my friends and family, I so wanted to live life on life's terms, I just didn't know how...The program has given me the coping skills and a fellowship willing to teach me today and I am deeply grateful for the 12 steps and the fellowship....
Enjoy your day, everyone...
xoxo
Stacey
SKG - it is alarming to think of the genetics involved..... it's scary because I am raising my addict/alcoholic daughter's daughter -- she's 14 now -- my grandaughter's father was an addict/alcoholic as well -- and so was his father (her grandfather). It's in her genes big-time.
My daughter started at a very young age with hiding otc pills behind pictures in her room. My grandaughter has seen the devastating effects that her mother's addiction and alcoholism have had on our family --- and on her (my daughter's) own life by getting deadly diseases, being homeless, etc.
I'm a big believer in genetics causing alot of things -- but I'm hoping & praying that our sober environment here in our home will have a lasting effect on my grandaughter & override the genetics..... I guess only time will tell.
Unfortunately my (elderly) mother, brother, sister, (elderly) aunt & others in the family are pill poppers. Prescription of course. Got a headache? Here's a pill. Feel dizzy? Here's a pill. Etc. My mother used to let my grandaughter fill her daily pill container! I put a stop to that & I even told my mother not to do it when she's around. Can you imagine???? Here is a child who has addict parents & my mother is letting her play with the pills??? Unbelievable.
My daughter started at a very young age with hiding otc pills behind pictures in her room. My grandaughter has seen the devastating effects that her mother's addiction and alcoholism have had on our family --- and on her (my daughter's) own life by getting deadly diseases, being homeless, etc.
I'm a big believer in genetics causing alot of things -- but I'm hoping & praying that our sober environment here in our home will have a lasting effect on my grandaughter & override the genetics..... I guess only time will tell.
Unfortunately my (elderly) mother, brother, sister, (elderly) aunt & others in the family are pill poppers. Prescription of course. Got a headache? Here's a pill. Feel dizzy? Here's a pill. Etc. My mother used to let my grandaughter fill her daily pill container! I put a stop to that & I even told my mother not to do it when she's around. Can you imagine???? Here is a child who has addict parents & my mother is letting her play with the pills??? Unbelievable.
Skg and 24Gordan...I am not just saying this but some of the nicest people...the kindest, insightful and spiritual people I have ever met are recovering alcoholics/addicts. I believe to some degree that addiction can be a gift...for those who choose another way.
I have attended some AA meetings that were more spiritual than any mass I ever attended when I was a Catholic. The honesty, love, frankness and wisdom is spine chilling. I love conversing with people in recovery. I always come out wiser and the faith is awesome. Religious people are pious...spiritual people are humble and knowing. Without a HP you wouldn't be who you are.
Thanks for conversing!!! :) Gail
I have attended some AA meetings that were more spiritual than any mass I ever attended when I was a Catholic. The honesty, love, frankness and wisdom is spine chilling. I love conversing with people in recovery. I always come out wiser and the faith is awesome. Religious people are pious...spiritual people are humble and knowing. Without a HP you wouldn't be who you are.
Thanks for conversing!!! :) Gail
I think the blame game is a dangerous one to begin, because it's rather like trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. No good can come of it except to harm others and remember that pointing a finger has a uniquely telling way of pointing three in one's general direction.
Look, our society thinks everything's curable with a pill. Need a boner? Take a pill. Upset? Take a pill. Need to lose weight? Yep. Responsibility is what's missing, not the blame game, in my opinion. Coming from an alcoholic, that's fun to project I'm sure, but I've never shirked from my responsibilities--which are different than eccentricities. You have some hard choices to make, and without the support of others around you, you may fail. Even WITH the support of those around you, there's a very good chance that she won't accept help.
Talk to a recovery center, put a plan together, and prepare for the worst but pray for the best. MY Higher Power is a caring, loving God that see free choice as a gift of unconditional love. That also means allowing us to make mistakes and learn from them. I pray you both find the help you seek.
I don't have the answers you want. I can tell you that screaming and crying never did the trick for me. Never stop loving her, but prepare yourself for an unhappy ending just in case.
Look, our society thinks everything's curable with a pill. Need a boner? Take a pill. Upset? Take a pill. Need to lose weight? Yep. Responsibility is what's missing, not the blame game, in my opinion. Coming from an alcoholic, that's fun to project I'm sure, but I've never shirked from my responsibilities--which are different than eccentricities. You have some hard choices to make, and without the support of others around you, you may fail. Even WITH the support of those around you, there's a very good chance that she won't accept help.
Talk to a recovery center, put a plan together, and prepare for the worst but pray for the best. MY Higher Power is a caring, loving God that see free choice as a gift of unconditional love. That also means allowing us to make mistakes and learn from them. I pray you both find the help you seek.
I don't have the answers you want. I can tell you that screaming and crying never did the trick for me. Never stop loving her, but prepare yourself for an unhappy ending just in case.
Hi Bumps! I don't remember that one--did you check on the site? I like to watch the follow-up interviews. For the most part they all look so much more HEALTHY. I never knew how sick I looked until I started watching folks change over the time in meetings. Astounding!
hi lightacandle
I don't think it contributed to her addiction problems they way you laid it out in your post.
Sounds more like your daughter was born with an addict personality and was actively seeking ways to alter her reality from a young age.
If it wasn't cough medicine it would have been something else.
I know sometimes we want so badly to understand "why". I am starting to think, for myself, that the "why" just doesn't matter. I am an alcoholic. If I want a better life I can't put alcohol into my system. "why" is irrelevant.
Alcohol doesn't work for me. But since I"m an alcoholic its taking mea hell of a long time to figure that one out and accept it.
cheers
Idgie.
I don't think it contributed to her addiction problems they way you laid it out in your post.
Sounds more like your daughter was born with an addict personality and was actively seeking ways to alter her reality from a young age.
If it wasn't cough medicine it would have been something else.
I know sometimes we want so badly to understand "why". I am starting to think, for myself, that the "why" just doesn't matter. I am an alcoholic. If I want a better life I can't put alcohol into my system. "why" is irrelevant.
Alcohol doesn't work for me. But since I"m an alcoholic its taking mea hell of a long time to figure that one out and accept it.
cheers
Idgie.
SKG, I think I saw it advertised on Sunday night, I thought it was going to be the newest episode. I don't remember a name but I do remember seeing "preacher's son" and the kid was tying up and getting ready to shoot up meth or coke, not sure which.
but then again I rarely watch it, my husband gets kind of upset when I do and he usually has charge of the 'mote....well not really, but it seems that the night it's on he usually comes downstairs and watches TV. Most of the time he watches movies on his big screen pc.
but then again I rarely watch it, my husband gets kind of upset when I do and he usually has charge of the 'mote....well not really, but it seems that the night it's on he usually comes downstairs and watches TV. Most of the time he watches movies on his big screen pc.
Hi
Yes I agree it is in the genes. My uncle was an alcoholic, my nephew became one as a teenager and then theres me and I have a daughter who is now in reab for addiction to precription pills.My daughter is 20 yrs old and she was prescribed meds for depression just a year ago. in that time she has become addicted to paxil,antivan and sleeping pills. She is clean now through reab but like us all is going through her own private hell to stay clean. I would be very wary of having any kind of medication around your granddaugher given the circumstances of her background. Not to make you lose your hope or anything but I grew up in a home where there was NO ALCHOLOL whatsoever. It was forbidden in our home. I was taught how wrong it was and the effects of it but still went ahead and did it. And from that first drink I was hooked at what it did for me. Of course over the years it progressed to where I am today. I hope things work out for you and keep talking to your granddaughter and I think for anyone the big book is good reading whether you are an addict or not. A lot to learn from in there maybe your granddaughter would like to read it. anyway just a thought if 12 steps work for addicts would it prevent potential future addicts from becoming one? I hope things work out for you I really do. God bless and be safe
Yes I agree it is in the genes. My uncle was an alcoholic, my nephew became one as a teenager and then theres me and I have a daughter who is now in reab for addiction to precription pills.My daughter is 20 yrs old and she was prescribed meds for depression just a year ago. in that time she has become addicted to paxil,antivan and sleeping pills. She is clean now through reab but like us all is going through her own private hell to stay clean. I would be very wary of having any kind of medication around your granddaugher given the circumstances of her background. Not to make you lose your hope or anything but I grew up in a home where there was NO ALCHOLOL whatsoever. It was forbidden in our home. I was taught how wrong it was and the effects of it but still went ahead and did it. And from that first drink I was hooked at what it did for me. Of course over the years it progressed to where I am today. I hope things work out for you and keep talking to your granddaughter and I think for anyone the big book is good reading whether you are an addict or not. A lot to learn from in there maybe your granddaughter would like to read it. anyway just a thought if 12 steps work for addicts would it prevent potential future addicts from becoming one? I hope things work out for you I really do. God bless and be safe
Hi again.
I've thought over my response and wanted to add something. Genetic inclinations didn't lead me to alcohol and, in fact, I was very well aware of my grandfather's addictions on my mother's side, as well as other members of my family. Alcohol was in my house, but it wasn't prevalent. My father was allergic to it and we'd hear him vomiting after a New Year's Eve party or other event where he and my mother had gone to the BPOE for dancing and drinks with friends.
My brother decided that he (my father) was a wuss and he set out to prove that he COULD and WOULD drink at will. Of course, seeking approval, the game was on. It snatched me up quickly--it was warm, made me feel bullet-proof with beer muscles, and everyone loved the "coming out," of me. I did, too. I decided right then that I liked being liked. I did anything to get it. ANY thing. Of course, I didn't have access to designer chems the way young people do know, and I sensed that needles were a bad thing, so I experimented with everything I could get my hands on (Except coke. Coke was a very addictive drug I'd been told. Couldn't become a drug addict, now could I? I tried it a couple times and KNEW I'd be slave to that bay-bee in a matter of only a few more snorts.). And if I was going to be an alcoholic, I was going to prove to the world that I could achieve everything I wanted to--and be lthe life of the party on the way!
My point is that addictions are behavioral. Some OldTimer, a self professed, "Happy Alcoholic," with 24 years of sobriety said in a meeting recently, "Somebody must have loved us too long or loved us too little," because we all seem to have stories of extremes: Abandonment issues, spoiled rotten, whatever. The bottom line is that we don't--and haven't--behave like other people. We're different--ask us!
I saw my sponsor last night (we meet weekly while I'm working through The Twelve Steps) and he said, "The Steps are a Design for Living and most find out that it's a far more simplified existence than chasing the buzz." It is. But we have to get to that "Jumping off," point where we find that we can neither live with it nor without it. THAT is when the bottom comes rushing up to meet us.
I pray you will find some comfort in understanding that you are neither responsible nor can you fix your granddaughter. This one is on her. May God be with you.
S
I've thought over my response and wanted to add something. Genetic inclinations didn't lead me to alcohol and, in fact, I was very well aware of my grandfather's addictions on my mother's side, as well as other members of my family. Alcohol was in my house, but it wasn't prevalent. My father was allergic to it and we'd hear him vomiting after a New Year's Eve party or other event where he and my mother had gone to the BPOE for dancing and drinks with friends.
My brother decided that he (my father) was a wuss and he set out to prove that he COULD and WOULD drink at will. Of course, seeking approval, the game was on. It snatched me up quickly--it was warm, made me feel bullet-proof with beer muscles, and everyone loved the "coming out," of me. I did, too. I decided right then that I liked being liked. I did anything to get it. ANY thing. Of course, I didn't have access to designer chems the way young people do know, and I sensed that needles were a bad thing, so I experimented with everything I could get my hands on (Except coke. Coke was a very addictive drug I'd been told. Couldn't become a drug addict, now could I? I tried it a couple times and KNEW I'd be slave to that bay-bee in a matter of only a few more snorts.). And if I was going to be an alcoholic, I was going to prove to the world that I could achieve everything I wanted to--and be lthe life of the party on the way!
My point is that addictions are behavioral. Some OldTimer, a self professed, "Happy Alcoholic," with 24 years of sobriety said in a meeting recently, "Somebody must have loved us too long or loved us too little," because we all seem to have stories of extremes: Abandonment issues, spoiled rotten, whatever. The bottom line is that we don't--and haven't--behave like other people. We're different--ask us!
I saw my sponsor last night (we meet weekly while I'm working through The Twelve Steps) and he said, "The Steps are a Design for Living and most find out that it's a far more simplified existence than chasing the buzz." It is. But we have to get to that "Jumping off," point where we find that we can neither live with it nor without it. THAT is when the bottom comes rushing up to meet us.
I pray you will find some comfort in understanding that you are neither responsible nor can you fix your granddaughter. This one is on her. May God be with you.
S
Applause and cheers for the people who post there experience, strength and hope you all are beautiful and the above posts are recovery and life at its best.
Thankyou
Gidday lightacandle
I love Alcohol or anything that makes me feel good in my mind, i liked it 24/7 and work interfered with it.
You are not an addict so there is hope for your grandchildren and you daughter hopefully one day will find recovery.
When i was drinking i only thought about self and worried about or resented everything else i also blamed everyone else when it turned to sh@t.
Alcoholism has destroyed parts of my families history and lives..i am breaking the cycle and the genetics are in our kids and the drugs are getting stronger and stronger and work quicker on capturing an addictive mind, i can only be there for our kids with love and hugs, if they end up in trouble then i can only be there to provide E.S.H and i will not worrie about the future because i am an alky.
Are there any Alanon meetings near you? and if so try one out, as they can be full of information and support:)
light and love zac
Thankyou
Gidday lightacandle
I love Alcohol or anything that makes me feel good in my mind, i liked it 24/7 and work interfered with it.
You are not an addict so there is hope for your grandchildren and you daughter hopefully one day will find recovery.
When i was drinking i only thought about self and worried about or resented everything else i also blamed everyone else when it turned to sh@t.
Alcoholism has destroyed parts of my families history and lives..i am breaking the cycle and the genetics are in our kids and the drugs are getting stronger and stronger and work quicker on capturing an addictive mind, i can only be there for our kids with love and hugs, if they end up in trouble then i can only be there to provide E.S.H and i will not worrie about the future because i am an alky.
Are there any Alanon meetings near you? and if so try one out, as they can be full of information and support:)
light and love zac
