Hi all,
I just came back from medically detoxing from over a 5 year heavy opiate use.
It started after I was diagnosed with spondylosis or degenerative arthritis. The doctor started me with ultram to loratab to percocet to percocet & oxycontin.
I was only gone to the hosp for 4 days & my back was still hurting tremendously. The first week I came home my back was still hurting but, by a couple of days, it was barely hurting & I was really starting to feel like a normal person & knew I could get my life back. It felt so wonderful to wake up with no withdrawal, after waking up fo so, so long on a daily basis with running eyes & nose & my whole body hurting. I had to go straight to the pills, which at the end was oxycontin & percocet.
Okay anyway, after the 1st couple of days as I said I was starting to feel like a normal person but I just didn't have much of any energy yet.
Then after about a week & a half I relapsed with a 40mg oxycontin.
I didn't take any more for a few days & my back hurt a little occassionally but it was dealable. I would take otc naproxin & it helped some. No other otc that I have tried have worked at all. I ended up relapsing a couple more times. Now I am on day 2 clean & my back is hurting almost unbearable.
Do you think its because I have had the opiates in my system or the arthritis. I truly don't know because I have heard with the disease of addiction your brain will trick you because it wants the opiates back again.
They did tell me at the hosp that some people cannot go off the opiates with the same arthritis condtition. I do not think I believe this.
Can I please get some opinions on this?
C
Welcome to the board! I am sorry I am a little confused. Have you been clean from oxy's for only 2 days? How much were you using a day and when did you stop completely?
Do you take any medications at all?
Rae
Do you take any medications at all?
Rae
Before I went to the hosp to detox the doctor was prescribing me 30mg oxycontin to take 3 x a day & 4-5 10 mg percocet a day, but I was taking probably around 8 percocet a day along with the oxycontin, which are supposed to last 12 hrs but for me they don't take care of the pain nearly that long.
I am 50 years old & not in great health, I think because of the pill use, along with over 5 year use it was
suggested to go to medical detox, plus I have agonizing withdrawals. Tremendous back pain, but, I also have the degenerative arthritis, & I have unbearable anxiety,
really awful, physically.
Okay I came home from detox after 4 days, although they felt I needed to stay longer because I could barely walk & I was still having tremendous back pain. OTC were not helping. A heating pad was helping some. I left angry because 2 shifts in a row would not give me naproxin, which is the only otc that helps a little bit. Takes some of the horrible edge off. My counselor agreed they should have given it to me & he agreed in front of the nurse that was refusing. I am thinking of writing a letter to hosp admin but thats another issue.
After about of a week & a half home I relapsed with a 40 mg oxycontin. I relapsed a few days later with a perc,I think, cannot remember, memory is shot. A few days later relapsed with 40mg again oxy.
I am confused because for about a week of the straight clean after hosp my back was barely hurting & that was only occassionally & bearable. The 1st few days after the hosp my back hurt pretty bad then just got better on its own.
Therefore I don't know if my back is hurting so bad again now because I put opiates in my system again or if its my arthritis, which I do have significant degeneration.
I have heard that once you put opiates in your system again that it will make your brain trick you into really making the pain real. So I don't know if it's the arthritis or my brain tricking me because of the addiction disease?
They did tell me at the hosp that some people with my condition really cannot get off the opiates because of the degenerative arthritis, (spondylosis).
I don't want to believe this for me.
There is an emergency with my grandchildren, ages 3,4 & 7 months old & I have to babysit for them many hrs a day until Fri. I absolutely cannot do it with the severe back pain I am having now without the opiates. But after Fri if I can get some recommendations or suggestions, I am willing to try about anything. I really do want off the pills if it's possible.
Please some one I really feel in serious need of help here.
My doc, & a previous one I used to have at the pain clinic, are more than willing to keep me on the meds & feel I need them,.It has affected me & my life so much I want off if it's possible.
Please help me here.
C
I am 50 years old & not in great health, I think because of the pill use, along with over 5 year use it was
suggested to go to medical detox, plus I have agonizing withdrawals. Tremendous back pain, but, I also have the degenerative arthritis, & I have unbearable anxiety,
really awful, physically.
Okay I came home from detox after 4 days, although they felt I needed to stay longer because I could barely walk & I was still having tremendous back pain. OTC were not helping. A heating pad was helping some. I left angry because 2 shifts in a row would not give me naproxin, which is the only otc that helps a little bit. Takes some of the horrible edge off. My counselor agreed they should have given it to me & he agreed in front of the nurse that was refusing. I am thinking of writing a letter to hosp admin but thats another issue.
After about of a week & a half home I relapsed with a 40 mg oxycontin. I relapsed a few days later with a perc,I think, cannot remember, memory is shot. A few days later relapsed with 40mg again oxy.
I am confused because for about a week of the straight clean after hosp my back was barely hurting & that was only occassionally & bearable. The 1st few days after the hosp my back hurt pretty bad then just got better on its own.
Therefore I don't know if my back is hurting so bad again now because I put opiates in my system again or if its my arthritis, which I do have significant degeneration.
I have heard that once you put opiates in your system again that it will make your brain trick you into really making the pain real. So I don't know if it's the arthritis or my brain tricking me because of the addiction disease?
They did tell me at the hosp that some people with my condition really cannot get off the opiates because of the degenerative arthritis, (spondylosis).
I don't want to believe this for me.
There is an emergency with my grandchildren, ages 3,4 & 7 months old & I have to babysit for them many hrs a day until Fri. I absolutely cannot do it with the severe back pain I am having now without the opiates. But after Fri if I can get some recommendations or suggestions, I am willing to try about anything. I really do want off the pills if it's possible.
Please some one I really feel in serious need of help here.
My doc, & a previous one I used to have at the pain clinic, are more than willing to keep me on the meds & feel I need them,.It has affected me & my life so much I want off if it's possible.
Please help me here.
C
You need to seek out a Suboxone Program. It will really help you. I was a 5yr opiate addict too and i have 15 days clean. It has saved my life and i havent had a single withdrawal. It is amazing. I had to go through the agonizing withdrawals about 10 years ago and did it cold turkey- It is harder when we are older. Google suboxen and find the website that has the Dr. Locator for Suboxen. It will find a Dr. in your area that is authorized to treat you.
You will be able to get your self back again and shouldnt have any cravings or pains at all......Each person is different but, the results are overwhelming...
Read some of the stories on the Suboxone board--They will help you...Make the call as soon as you can and you could be WD free by days end !!
Good Luck and God Bless you---
You will be able to get your self back again and shouldnt have any cravings or pains at all......Each person is different but, the results are overwhelming...
Read some of the stories on the Suboxone board--They will help you...Make the call as soon as you can and you could be WD free by days end !!
Good Luck and God Bless you---
I am 79 days clean, YOU HAVE to finish the detox program, atleast 10 days, even after I came home I was weak for awhile but every day got better and today I feel better than ever. I used 20-30 1000mil a day for 6 years.
Felicia
one day at a time
Felicia
one day at a time
Thank you all so very, very much for your help. I cannot say what it means to me for you to take the time to help me.
I have decided to go with low as dose as possible until after Fri. My grandbabies are counting on me. I am spending the night with them tonight & staying until afternoon tomorrow. Then I have to go back Fri A.M. & staying till mid afternoon. Their father works overnight shift & their mother has already flown out of town on business. There was a special situation where they were left w/o their reg sitter & I am the only other person they trust with the little ones. I see no other way of caring for them w/o some sort of pain meds that will work. I plan on the smallest amout possible but there is some pain that is doable for me. I don't plan on taking anything until it's unbearable.
Then the plan is my sis is going to help me get the detox meds I absolutely need, (clonidine, klonopin & neurontin), which I already get two of these meds anyway.
Then on Mon I am going back to stay at her house & she is going to oveersee my detox until I feel well enough to go home. She is a former certified drug & alcohol counselor. I could be in no better hands, plus she loves me dearly, (she's my identical twin). She is very loving & nurturing but tough & straight up also.
Any feedback or opinions on this plan?
C
I have decided to go with low as dose as possible until after Fri. My grandbabies are counting on me. I am spending the night with them tonight & staying until afternoon tomorrow. Then I have to go back Fri A.M. & staying till mid afternoon. Their father works overnight shift & their mother has already flown out of town on business. There was a special situation where they were left w/o their reg sitter & I am the only other person they trust with the little ones. I see no other way of caring for them w/o some sort of pain meds that will work. I plan on the smallest amout possible but there is some pain that is doable for me. I don't plan on taking anything until it's unbearable.
Then the plan is my sis is going to help me get the detox meds I absolutely need, (clonidine, klonopin & neurontin), which I already get two of these meds anyway.
Then on Mon I am going back to stay at her house & she is going to oveersee my detox until I feel well enough to go home. She is a former certified drug & alcohol counselor. I could be in no better hands, plus she loves me dearly, (she's my identical twin). She is very loving & nurturing but tough & straight up also.
Any feedback or opinions on this plan?
C
May I ask what they gave you in detox? Thanks Sharonn
Your sister sounds like your best bet. You cannot have control of your meds. If you're in so much pain (and it sounds like it along with being chronic) why are you detoxing off of your pain meds? Is it because you are abusing them? I'm sorry, but that part was confusing.
While suboxone has helped many people here, it's still an opiate and one that you will need to eventually have to detox off of as well. Something to think about also.
I know that for me, once I quit using, it took about 3 or 4 months and all of the aches and pains (along with severe migraines) went away or became doable. So, it does get better, it just takes time.
Cowgirl
While suboxone has helped many people here, it's still an opiate and one that you will need to eventually have to detox off of as well. Something to think about also.
I know that for me, once I quit using, it took about 3 or 4 months and all of the aches and pains (along with severe migraines) went away or became doable. So, it does get better, it just takes time.
Cowgirl
I have to agree with CG. Your gonna be a while out till you start feeling better at all emotionally or mentally. It does get better don't ge me wrong. I just think that it is too common of a myth among pill abusers to think you can go in to a detox or just go through withdrawl for a week or so and be fine. I truley believed that when I was over my head in my pill addiction. I didn't learn the truth until it was waaay to late. Good job for doing the detox and this post is not ment to discourage you at all. You have a medical condition of wich I know nothing about but you also have the desire to quit and that is commendable. My only advice is just know in your mind this could take a while and learn more about addiction and recovery that helps so much! Welcom to the board.
Jane
Jane
