Just,wondering for those of us on meth.scripts,when you give a sample&the results are looked at,does it have to be completly clean of all illegals?At the clinic i attend you can have cannabis/alcohol/speed&be o.k.if you have benzos in yer sample regularly they might give you a warning,not much else,as long as yer clean of brown,im talkin about getting takeouts,coz if you have to go everyday,most are using on top.Basically heroin is the big no no,but would be interseted in what its like in the u.s. as things are a lot more heavily policed there.Also i feel for you guys in the states,up at 5am 1/2hr Qs all the bulls*** ya gotta put up with.Thank god its a bit more lax in europe,no crazy hrs.or that much of a wait,in and out&you can coll.it at yer local drugstore.Obviousley if someone comes in all over the place they may not get there dose&if they can smell booze off ya you get a breath test.Also do you have access to your samples?i.e the results.Thanks ....Davey.p.s when i said lax it has its good parts but also a lot gets onto the streets.
Hi Davey! Top 'O the mornin' to ya'. In North Carolina, they're pretty strict. It just recently got this way, though. My husband went for 3 yrs. and failed every drug screen for THC. Now though, after 3 dirties, they start detoxing you. (1 and1/2 mg. a day) It doesn't matter if it's marijuana or cocaine. It's all the same to them. Also, this morning, I forgot my empty THB and they wouldn't give me my take-homes. That's ridiculous!! You have to return your empties here. If you don't, they figure you're selling them. (like you can't pour it in another bottle!) What a bunch of beurocratic bull hockey!!! Peace, Shirley
Thought it might be that harsh,as we both know Shirley,thc can stay in the system for 6wks or so,heroin on the other hand 3/4days.Like your fella getting kicked off for having a joint,crazy.Thats why prisons all over have heroin in them¬ cannabis,coz of the mad sample rules,i a few people who had there 1st.taste of heroin in prison&became fully fledged junkies.War on drugs?my arse.All the best ....Davey
There's no war on drugs. The governments are making too much money. The only ones trying to fight drugs are us. Us poor f#$%ers who've had enough abuse!
Shirley your only too right.Since 1981 the fed.budget to stop drugs went from 1.8bill to 19bill.Spy planes over theCaribbean,paramilitary bases in S.America,radar bearing ballonson the Mex.border.1996 1.5mill arrested for drugs,prison pop.overflowing.heroin sold at purity levals6 times of those in the early 80s.How much spent on recovery/harm reduction/programmes,very very little.Thats the D.e.a.s accomplistments.I can only hope a more liberal thinking on the subject will happen,but i wont hold my breath.All the best ...Davey
i live near london the clinic i go to i have to go once a week and give a swap test, over here you cant take any drugs you can drink thats it you get 3 positive tesat and your out.
i collect my methadone once a weeks from the chemist not all that dailys crap thank god but they are strickt on the tests
i collect my methadone once a weeks from the chemist not all that dailys crap thank god but they are strickt on the tests
Over here on the Jersey side of the GW bridge- its 3 dirtys in 1 - 4 month phase and your out. Everything is done in 4 month phases. If you leave clean samples (only 1 or 2 a month) in 4 months you get a THB. Clean for another 4 - another THB.
Testing is expensive ,so they really only test for Heroin,coke,and benzo,s. They are more lenient if youre dirty with opiates. If your dirty with pills or coke- you have a problem. If your dirty(with anything) and you have THB,s they will take 1 away
.If you dont have bottles,you can leave dirty heroin samples for about a year before they move to kick you off.
However,testing over the last year has become lax. Where as they ALL used to be monitered,now if they moniter once a phase ,its a lot. This of course,gives many of the guys(Im not real sure about the women) a chance to bring in a clean ,and pass it off.
While I was trying to get mt THB,s they had some strict monitering going on- -I now have 6. -a battle for sure,it took a long time.
I now see guys in there dumping all the time. There are more vials in the mens room then a chemistry set- So what that does is reward people who are still using with a bottle that they can sell.
Oh well, its all part of the movie- if you dont like it ,you can always walk out
peace,
jack
Testing is expensive ,so they really only test for Heroin,coke,and benzo,s. They are more lenient if youre dirty with opiates. If your dirty with pills or coke- you have a problem. If your dirty(with anything) and you have THB,s they will take 1 away
.If you dont have bottles,you can leave dirty heroin samples for about a year before they move to kick you off.
However,testing over the last year has become lax. Where as they ALL used to be monitered,now if they moniter once a phase ,its a lot. This of course,gives many of the guys(Im not real sure about the women) a chance to bring in a clean ,and pass it off.
While I was trying to get mt THB,s they had some strict monitering going on- -I now have 6. -a battle for sure,it took a long time.
I now see guys in there dumping all the time. There are more vials in the mens room then a chemistry set- So what that does is reward people who are still using with a bottle that they can sell.
Oh well, its all part of the movie- if you dont like it ,you can always walk out
peace,
jack
From what,Shirley&Jack have said it seems that there more strict in diff.states,maybe for you Jack living one of the heroin capitals of the world,i.eN.Y things are diff.seeing the large addict pop.Over here the urines are screened always,but it seems similar,rules wise to the one i attend,apart from takeouts which you can get after a few cleans,thats weekly takeouts.The funding for meth.places is better over here.i.e25,000 addicts in Dublin,pop 1.5ml,with 6000 currently in some programme,so still a long way to go ,but the health proffs.lol,seem to be getting the message,more places on programmes,but theres still a 5/6wk.wait&most cant wait that long.All the best...Davey
Talking about urine samples reminded me of a story. It's one of my more embarrassing moments. Y'all might get a kick out of this or it will just disgust you. ha!ha!
About 4 yrs. ago, when my hubby had just got out of prison. He went wild on coke and of course, so did I.I had been going to that clinic for a year and never failed a drug screen. Then I failed 3 in a row for coke. I was going in there high every day almost. Anyway, this chic told me how she passed her tests for probation. She told me,"Take an aspirin bottle, get someone to pee in it. Then take saran wrap and stretch it over the opening. Take dental foss and wrap it around the saran wrap and neck of bottle several times. Saran wrap should be tight as a drum. Then turn the bottle upside down and insert it like a tampon.(I'm sure some of u girls have heard of this)Then, sharpen one of your fingernails to a point. When you're holding the cup in position to fill it, You use sharpened fingernail on the same hand to puncture the saran wrap, releasing alternate urine into cup. It sounds perfect, don't it? But, I'd screw up a wet dream!!I had an observed. The nurse went in there with me and sat on a stool right in front of the toilet. That was bad enough. I got the saran wrap punctured but it was just a tiny hole.The pee was going around in circles inside the bottle on the saran wrap. Here I was, wiggling around and hopping up and down on the toilet, trying to make some pee come out!!! I got a few drops inthe cup. Then I had to pull my pants up, with that bottle still full. Of course it leaked out. By the time I left the clinic, I looked like I'd peed my pants!!Ha!Ha! They asked for another sample the next day which showed positive for coke. I haven't ever tried to fake a sample again!!!
