my partner had bad chest pain last night im wondering if this is due to the H?
or something worse.
Alright..CrystalRose..i aint no doc so i couldnt begin to give ya straight ans..but when coming off H most addicts suffer some sort of ailment..coz whilst on smack it acts as a painkiller..when its out of yer system your body can come back at ya with all sorts of aches and pains..coz you aint got the smack to cover it up.When i ever did a rattle i would get the worst migraines and toothaches..obviously coz my body was crying out for that pain relief heroin gives.Hope this helps...i presume yer b/f isnt gettin his methd. anymore..let us know.All the best to ya both......Davey
no there takeing forever to get it done (meth) he has a appointment on monday and a app on tuesday at a diffrent clinic but nothing to get him through the weekend. today is his first day clean. even yesterday he didnt even any where near as much as he usually does. he was spending about a hundred a day on his habit. he also complained of headaches last night as well as the chest pain by his heart. he said he feels sick but other then that he's doing really well.
Dear CR, the good news with heroin is it doesn't really do any damage, not like tobacco, or alcohol, or cocaine (which damages your heart). The drug itself passes through without any side effects. Not even the withdrawals cause long term damage. The dangers with heroin are overdose, and if you smoke it on the foil, the foil itself isn't very good for you - toxic fumes. And if you inject it you inevitably cause damage to your veins. Infected injection sites can lead to loss of limbs. You also run the risk of exposure to blood born viruses and infections such as HIV and hep if you share any of your works. And also you can seriously hurt yourself whilst under the influence. We had a poster here a while back who lost his son. He posted some horrific pictures of his son who nearly died after nodding out and trapping a limb, which started to die from lack of circulation, and then caused poisoning. He had terrible damage to the limb. After many months of hospital treatment he recovered, only to die of an OD later on.
Addict tend to have health problems because of malnutrition, and unhealthy lifestyle, and circulation problems. And of course the withdrawals which make you feel like you're dying even if your not!
love
diff xxxx
Addict tend to have health problems because of malnutrition, and unhealthy lifestyle, and circulation problems. And of course the withdrawals which make you feel like you're dying even if your not!
love
diff xxxx
Any jones I've ever done has always brought on a lot of chest pain and coughing. It causes your whole body to revolt against you and hurt. Give it a couple of weeks and things will change a lot. Good luck!!
Beck
Beck
Hi CR,
My partner also gets chest pains, pains in his kidneys and migranes. I guess its just because you dont have the pain relief of heroin and its your body crying out for that hit. He may also get flu like symptoms and sickness.
Good luck anyway. It aint easy but just support him and be there for him.
Love Lyndsay xx
My partner also gets chest pains, pains in his kidneys and migranes. I guess its just because you dont have the pain relief of heroin and its your body crying out for that hit. He may also get flu like symptoms and sickness.
Good luck anyway. It aint easy but just support him and be there for him.
Love Lyndsay xx
CR,
Agreed with everyone else too........chest pain, lower back pain, teeth aches, ear aches, joint pain, anxiety...............on and on and on.
When you're kicking or have gone down substantially.......even your pillow hurts your head........a towel feels like it's a brick or something.
Diff's right.........heroin itself ain't going to do all that damage like alot of other drugs, chemicals........but that kick is like nothing ya'd ever known.,
Hope they hurry the h*ll up for him, and hope he feels a tiny bit better.
Agreed with everyone else too........chest pain, lower back pain, teeth aches, ear aches, joint pain, anxiety...............on and on and on.
When you're kicking or have gone down substantially.......even your pillow hurts your head........a towel feels like it's a brick or something.
Diff's right.........heroin itself ain't going to do all that damage like alot of other drugs, chemicals........but that kick is like nothing ya'd ever known.,
Hope they hurry the h*ll up for him, and hope he feels a tiny bit better.
unfortunetly his detox lasted 1 day he's back on it today
CR
A one day detox isn't much use but it's better than another day on the gear and it shows that in his head he maybe wants out even if he isn't ready to take the steps yet. Any amount of time clean is good.
k
A one day detox isn't much use but it's better than another day on the gear and it shows that in his head he maybe wants out even if he isn't ready to take the steps yet. Any amount of time clean is good.
k
we have an appointment at the hospital tomorow to hopefully get him back on the methodone so hopefully he will have the help he's been asking for at last
heres hopeing.
heres hopeing.
If he left a detox after1 day -I dont see what good getting on a mdone program is going to do. It works for people that are ready to stop illicit drug use.
Why did he leave after 1 day?? Getting on m done is not a bad thing,but if he just wants on to keep the sickness at bay so he will have an easier time on the days he cant use dope, he will be in for a habit he doesn't need.
M done is a treatment and should be used as one. Too many get on a clinic for the wrong reasons and get stuck there. I would find out why he left the detox after just 24 hours and ask why he thinks mdone is the treatment he needs.
Many of us on mdone have made a better life for ourselves,but there is a trade off. There are side effects that effect our physical,mental,sexual,and spiritual well being.
I don't know anything about your situation, but I would explore his plans a bit. Is he looking for a short 2 week detox? A 60 day mdone treatment? If its a good clinic they wont even suggest maintenance to him for a long time- after many tries and much counseling.
I dont mean to sound negative but Im curious to why after walking out of a detox center after 1 day- why does he think mdone treatment is the way to go ??
just curious
with respect,
jack
Why did he leave after 1 day?? Getting on m done is not a bad thing,but if he just wants on to keep the sickness at bay so he will have an easier time on the days he cant use dope, he will be in for a habit he doesn't need.
M done is a treatment and should be used as one. Too many get on a clinic for the wrong reasons and get stuck there. I would find out why he left the detox after just 24 hours and ask why he thinks mdone is the treatment he needs.
Many of us on mdone have made a better life for ourselves,but there is a trade off. There are side effects that effect our physical,mental,sexual,and spiritual well being.
I don't know anything about your situation, but I would explore his plans a bit. Is he looking for a short 2 week detox? A 60 day mdone treatment? If its a good clinic they wont even suggest maintenance to him for a long time- after many tries and much counseling.
I dont mean to sound negative but Im curious to why after walking out of a detox center after 1 day- why does he think mdone treatment is the way to go ??
just curious
with respect,
jack
hi jack
it was a detox at home, the need for the drug and the sickness he felt was to much. he has looked into rehab but as the hospital here dosen't have a detox doctor they aren't takeing detox patients.
he was on the methodone program up until 2 months ago for about a year he decided he could do better on his own without the meth and he said he didnt want a drug ruleing his life but found it was too much and started useing Heroin.
he wants off the drugs totally but is strugling big time
it was a detox at home, the need for the drug and the sickness he felt was to much. he has looked into rehab but as the hospital here dosen't have a detox doctor they aren't takeing detox patients.
he was on the methodone program up until 2 months ago for about a year he decided he could do better on his own without the meth and he said he didnt want a drug ruleing his life but found it was too much and started useing Heroin.
he wants off the drugs totally but is strugling big time
I agree with Jack. Someone I know is on a meth script through the week and then has gear on a weekend purely because he cant afford to be on heroin 7 days a week, so he blows all his wages on a weekend on a mixture of gear, other drugs and alchohol. Its people like them that make it harder for the people who want to get clean to get a script. Am I right in thinking the withdrawels from meth are allot more intense than those of heroin and if your using both isnt it worse again?? Not 100% sure of that just what I am led to believe.
Will he stick to swallowing the meth also this time cos honestly injecting oral methadone cant be good for him. Its a really thick sugary liquid, what must that be doing??
Kevin is continuing to use at present while he gets some money in from work then apparently is starting his script again and giving it 100%. That man dont know the meaning of giving something 100%. I mean I can tell how guilty he feels for being nasty to me and my daughter last week, hence the gifts and money he keeps trying to give us. Think he is trying to persude himself that he is a good Dad cos I told him how it is last week. I told him a good Dad he may be but not all the time. He is unpatient, bad tempered and to be honest totally disgusting when he goes off on one. Apparently he was going to set about his dealer yesterday because he was messing him about and left him rattling.
He keeps moaning on at me saying I have no faith in him, but I havent, I have no trust and I dont give a sh*t anymore. Whether he gets better or not. Thing is he is actually a more loving person on gear and more thoughtfull. He is nasty and agressive without. Especially the first few days!! I really dont care. He still gives me money to live on and to buy things if we need them, we have gas/electric, roof over our head. He works for his money so he can enjoy spending it but he wont ever get out from my pocket again!!
Anyway moan over...and tummy growling at me. Best get food.
Take care CR....XXX and everyone else xxx
Will he stick to swallowing the meth also this time cos honestly injecting oral methadone cant be good for him. Its a really thick sugary liquid, what must that be doing??
Kevin is continuing to use at present while he gets some money in from work then apparently is starting his script again and giving it 100%. That man dont know the meaning of giving something 100%. I mean I can tell how guilty he feels for being nasty to me and my daughter last week, hence the gifts and money he keeps trying to give us. Think he is trying to persude himself that he is a good Dad cos I told him how it is last week. I told him a good Dad he may be but not all the time. He is unpatient, bad tempered and to be honest totally disgusting when he goes off on one. Apparently he was going to set about his dealer yesterday because he was messing him about and left him rattling.
He keeps moaning on at me saying I have no faith in him, but I havent, I have no trust and I dont give a sh*t anymore. Whether he gets better or not. Thing is he is actually a more loving person on gear and more thoughtfull. He is nasty and agressive without. Especially the first few days!! I really dont care. He still gives me money to live on and to buy things if we need them, we have gas/electric, roof over our head. He works for his money so he can enjoy spending it but he wont ever get out from my pocket again!!
Anyway moan over...and tummy growling at me. Best get food.
Take care CR....XXX and everyone else xxx
Alright..all..CR..if yer b/f is comitted to using his oral meth.properly this time...rather than the crazy idea of banging the stuff up..believe me it aint good for him and whats the point of doing it anyway..he should try and get onto a script..but only if he wants a complete out from the druglife not just sumthin to tide him over as Lynds.BR...said..until hes got a bit of cash then go score....hes far better off trying to stay clean using oral meth.than one day on/off H..meth.can be a life saver..it saved mine..o.k im on it 7yrs.and have no intention of comin off..but ive come a long way from 24/7 active addiction.
BR/Lynds..i know were yer comin from with yer fellas good moods when on it ..i was the same ..whilst high..couldnt do enuff for anyone the life and soul of the party ..so to speak..but Lynds..when the comedown came i became the rattiest f***er...so in the end i had to look at how it was effecting those around me..and get a kick up the arse..it took a while but i got there eventually.
Take care and enjoy yer big fry up..no museli..o.k..treat yerself..ya desrve it.......Davey
BR/Lynds..i know were yer comin from with yer fellas good moods when on it ..i was the same ..whilst high..couldnt do enuff for anyone the life and soul of the party ..so to speak..but Lynds..when the comedown came i became the rattiest f***er...so in the end i had to look at how it was effecting those around me..and get a kick up the arse..it took a while but i got there eventually.
Take care and enjoy yer big fry up..no museli..o.k..treat yerself..ya desrve it.......Davey
He must be doing done that is supposed to be injected. We dont even have that type in the states (that I know of).
We have the diskette,& a couple types of liquid. The liquid has a food colored dye in it (changes the color to green or blue-- and definitely cant be injected)
He needs to break the injection routine ,which is an addiction in itself.
Like was mentioned, heroin itself is too harmful, its the lifestyle that it brings,and the unknown qualities that are dangerous- - never mind the unsanitary conditions you are forced to deal with to use.
keep in touch
jack
We have the diskette,& a couple types of liquid. The liquid has a food colored dye in it (changes the color to green or blue-- and definitely cant be injected)
He needs to break the injection routine ,which is an addiction in itself.
Like was mentioned, heroin itself is too harmful, its the lifestyle that it brings,and the unknown qualities that are dangerous- - never mind the unsanitary conditions you are forced to deal with to use.
keep in touch
jack
No musli and no fried brekky but I had toast and have also managed half a sundal lunch earlier and half a jam roly poly. Mmmm it was lovely.
What is done?? I have only ever seen the green meth and its looks disgusting. I wouldnt like to swallow it never mind inject it. What does it taste of? Sugary?? Does it change the colour of your poo too? Sorry maybe asking too much information but curiose...lol.
Right got to go bath the rugrat. See ya all later xxxxxxxxx chow for now x
What is done?? I have only ever seen the green meth and its looks disgusting. I wouldnt like to swallow it never mind inject it. What does it taste of? Sugary?? Does it change the colour of your poo too? Sorry maybe asking too much information but curiose...lol.
Right got to go bath the rugrat. See ya all later xxxxxxxxx chow for now x
Hi guys,
My man injects methadone but no it is not the green sugary stuff it is injectable clear non sugary liquid that some people have to have because they have some medical condition that prevents them taking the other stuff. Diabetics can't always take the oral and my man is allergic to something in it, something in saccahrin he can't eat sweets, ice cream nothing like that. They hate giving amps to anyone because they are very saleable and they hit the spot + you don't use them on site so that makes them easy to sell. But to get iv meth you have to have a daily script no weekly scripts allowed. Injectable meth is much stronger so they don't get very much of it.
k
My man injects methadone but no it is not the green sugary stuff it is injectable clear non sugary liquid that some people have to have because they have some medical condition that prevents them taking the other stuff. Diabetics can't always take the oral and my man is allergic to something in it, something in saccahrin he can't eat sweets, ice cream nothing like that. They hate giving amps to anyone because they are very saleable and they hit the spot + you don't use them on site so that makes them easy to sell. But to get iv meth you have to have a daily script no weekly scripts allowed. Injectable meth is much stronger so they don't get very much of it.
k
shaun has said before that the injecting is some of the addiction to see that needle going in the arm.
he has promised that he will only swallow but only time will tell.
he has said that he's sick of needing a drug to be happy and he wants it to be the way it use to be.
everytime he does something to get the money for it once he's injected he gets really depressed and upset with himself, he also said thats he's sick of takeing money away from me and our daughter and it stops now.
he seems to really want help to change his habits but im not in his head s i don't really know whats going through his mind.
he told me last night that if he keeps injecting he'll step aside and let me and my daughter leave without a argument.
i don't know anymore i have just about had all i can take i hope he means it about wanting off and keeping to swallowing the Methodone, if he dosen't ill have no choice but to leave for my daughters sake more then anything.
he has promised that he will only swallow but only time will tell.
he has said that he's sick of needing a drug to be happy and he wants it to be the way it use to be.
everytime he does something to get the money for it once he's injected he gets really depressed and upset with himself, he also said thats he's sick of takeing money away from me and our daughter and it stops now.
he seems to really want help to change his habits but im not in his head s i don't really know whats going through his mind.
he told me last night that if he keeps injecting he'll step aside and let me and my daughter leave without a argument.
i don't know anymore i have just about had all i can take i hope he means it about wanting off and keeping to swallowing the Methodone, if he dosen't ill have no choice but to leave for my daughters sake more then anything.
I'm sorry for your pain Crystal...........so sorry.........you gotta do what ya gotta do..........I hope he means it as well, but if he's lying to himself.....it won't work.
The whole process is a ritual..........so he ain't lying there.......but plenty of people have put the needle down.........do what is right for your little girl and yourself.
The whole process is a ritual..........so he ain't lying there.......but plenty of people have put the needle down.........do what is right for your little girl and yourself.
C Rose
Oh I am right there with you on this - yes they get depressed no many people enjoy being an addict as my man says if I knew then what I know now I would have ran a mile. My babe doesn't take my money but of course the less they have the less we have and often it hurts them more because they want to spend money on their families.
You can leave - how many times have I heard that - or - you'll be better of without me. My answer is I can make my own decisions about staying or going and playing the saint doesn't work. Yours has to stop talking the talk and really do the walk for himself, he has to take small steps and not rush it. For me staying was never about whether he continued to use or not, I still loved him if he used I just prefered him not to, I didn't want the risk of finding him dead, happened to friends of mine after years of use they somehow forget that it only takes one bad bag. And I wanted him living in my world the daytime one not the one that starts at midnight. If what he does is hurting your child then you have to do what is best for her.
I've found a sort of peace in the sadness, right now my man's sick but even in this I have faith he wants to live and God loves a tryer.
k
Oh I am right there with you on this - yes they get depressed no many people enjoy being an addict as my man says if I knew then what I know now I would have ran a mile. My babe doesn't take my money but of course the less they have the less we have and often it hurts them more because they want to spend money on their families.
You can leave - how many times have I heard that - or - you'll be better of without me. My answer is I can make my own decisions about staying or going and playing the saint doesn't work. Yours has to stop talking the talk and really do the walk for himself, he has to take small steps and not rush it. For me staying was never about whether he continued to use or not, I still loved him if he used I just prefered him not to, I didn't want the risk of finding him dead, happened to friends of mine after years of use they somehow forget that it only takes one bad bag. And I wanted him living in my world the daytime one not the one that starts at midnight. If what he does is hurting your child then you have to do what is best for her.
I've found a sort of peace in the sadness, right now my man's sick but even in this I have faith he wants to live and God loves a tryer.
k
