is this when you shoot up heroin and cocaine togehter?
is there a diff in recovery from this than reovery from straught heroin?
my boyfriend nearly always used to use the two together
is it diff from crack?
Around here,using heroin and cocaine together is called a speedball. I never heard of snowballing. I have been out of the loop for awhile. Maybe it's a new term. I know that speedballing is very intense. I used to liken it to a religous experience.I think if I were doing speedballs all the time, it would be extremely hard to quit. You've got the physical (heroin) withdrawal and the super intense (cocaine) cravings. It woul be very difficult. I hope your boyfriend's trying to get help. He might be having fun now (MAYBE) but the fun won't last. Good luck. PEACE, Shirley
doh! no i think your right its speedball i knew it didnt sound right when i was typing it it!
yes that is what my boyfriend used to do, now he is on the methadone programme (coming up for 2 years on it now) he hasnt been totally clen the whole time and in this year has had two relaspes..the last one fairly recent and he is still in a difficult place at the moment.
are the cravings diff after speedballs than they are after normal heroin?
he now wants to start cutting down his methadone..if he does get clean from methdaone will he still have cravings for both heroin and cocaine?
yes that is what my boyfriend used to do, now he is on the methadone programme (coming up for 2 years on it now) he hasnt been totally clen the whole time and in this year has had two relaspes..the last one fairly recent and he is still in a difficult place at the moment.
are the cravings diff after speedballs than they are after normal heroin?
he now wants to start cutting down his methadone..if he does get clean from methdaone will he still have cravings for both heroin and cocaine?
Well.....the cravings are the same and they're not. I know that doesn't make sense. I'll try to explain. With heroin, your (addictive) brain will be telling you that you could get so much done if you just had a bag of dope. It makes everything easier to cope with. You never get over that feeling. I've been on methadone for 3 years now and I still feel like I could clean my house better if I was high. It sounds stupid, but if you feel like you can't even clean your house properly without dope, just think what else, youcan't do! With cocaine,You get this incredible head rush. It's called a bell ringer and it's super intense. The craving for another bell ringer is also super intense. The thing about coke, though, if you stay away from it, you're o.k. If you're around someone who's using it or you know they have it, it's almost impossible to say no. Last year, my husband went on a 6 month cocaine bender. I ask him not to do it around me but you know how that goes. (misery loves company) I would literly lock myself in my bedroom while he was using and cry. Sometimes, I couldn't say no and I would use. My hands would shake so bad from anticipation that I would usually miss my shot. (and I'm a heroin addict not a coke-head) That's how strong cocaine cravings can get. If your boyfriend stays away from people who are using, he should be o.k. I hope I haven't scared you. I tend to ramble this early in the morning. PEACE, Shirley
no, thank you for replying, i want to know more to try and understand and then be able to help my boyfriend more.
he now doesnt see his drug freinds any more, the only connection he has is the methadone clinic..in fact he always blames this and this is another reason for him wanting to get off the methadone to complety seperate himself from the whole scene. this is something that he understands that he has to do.
i am so proud of him in that sense becase he has complty changed his friends and left his whole life behind which i know is a relly hard thing to do.
i suppose he is lucky that i am not a drug user and so cannot tempt him, i cant imagine how hard it was for you with your husband using near by..admire your streght
thanks again x
he now doesnt see his drug freinds any more, the only connection he has is the methadone clinic..in fact he always blames this and this is another reason for him wanting to get off the methadone to complety seperate himself from the whole scene. this is something that he understands that he has to do.
i am so proud of him in that sense becase he has complty changed his friends and left his whole life behind which i know is a relly hard thing to do.
i suppose he is lucky that i am not a drug user and so cannot tempt him, i cant imagine how hard it was for you with your husband using near by..admire your streght
thanks again x
Most people when they get on methodone dont feel the heroin like they used to. So they throw a little cocaine in with it.(the dope) This way they,re issured of a some kind of rush.A lot of it is just a needle thing
Its a dangerous practice especially if never done before. Like Shirley , said ,its very pychologically addicting. Also a cocaine overdose is often fatal, as its quick ,and speeds up the heart to a scary rate.With the heroin mixed in ,it usually counters this- but not always. Without the heroin ,there is nothing ,except maybe the mdone to counter the C.
Even as a IV heroin user ,cocaine scared me more than anything- I did speedball now and then , but to tell you the truth ,I would rather spend the $ on more dope.
Be careful -
peace&respect
jack
Its a dangerous practice especially if never done before. Like Shirley , said ,its very pychologically addicting. Also a cocaine overdose is often fatal, as its quick ,and speeds up the heart to a scary rate.With the heroin mixed in ,it usually counters this- but not always. Without the heroin ,there is nothing ,except maybe the mdone to counter the C.
Even as a IV heroin user ,cocaine scared me more than anything- I did speedball now and then , but to tell you the truth ,I would rather spend the $ on more dope.
Be careful -
peace&respect
jack
last year i done a bit of the snowballing with my ex, i thought the buzz was very intense and needed twice the amount of brown after to bring me down... we used to mixed the brown and crack together on the foil and chase the dragon, he used to get on a different buzz to me. He would be shutting blinds peaking out tiny cracks of the window, swearing that there was someone at the bottom of our garden spying on us. even though i myself was buzzing i thought he was seriosly mad!! my buzz was different everything had to be so quiet i would shut my eyes i know its bad to say but enjoying the intense feeling, like i was having an outer body experiance, i could never understand why my ex would love the snowballing so much if all he was doing was making himself para, it was fun at first untill i found out that he was leaving the house 9in the morning scoring and driving around and snowballing round the streets of london, comming home and going through my things swearing i had another man in my house, that i was having some mad affair it got very stupid in the end......he would come home with eyes like fiying saucers and swear he had'nt touched a thing, wotta nutter!!!!! tracie x
