Hey and thanks for reminding me about the power of now! I'm going to dig it out and dust it off today. Mr. Frey's book was good for me, I laughed, cried, got mad, got hopeful...basically went through alot of emotions. It was a good feeling to get through a book and know that I absorbed it, for a change.
I never said that the 12 steps was the answer for everyone I said it is what has worked for me and three years Im happy with so if someone asks for help I can only help them with the knowledge that I have and when I tried to stay sober alone and on my own it didnt work I relapsed this time I did things the quote unquote right way and Im doing alot better and finding out alot about myself.... I am giving Nathan advice based on experience through my own recovery.... Im not holding a gun to anyones head here I gave a suggestion nothing more...... Recovery takes leg work no matter what path you chose to take in it........ I wonder why people are so against the twelve steps......I have found nothing but good in it.... but EVERYONE has the right to there own opinion I was just giving advice from my own life experiences thats all.........Sorry if I offended....
Love
JAcque
Love
JAcque
Hi Jacque,
When I disclosed and apologized to my mom and my brother last weekend. I can see how it related to the 12 steps. Something about making amends right?
I like the serenity prayer. I'm sampling from a buffet of lots of recovery options.
Maybe I'm just too broken because my grandma was sober, met a man who was a 12 stepper, thought he was a gem, then she started drinking with him again. (sounds like a country song) Personally, I am honestly trying to respect everyone's journey through recovery, whatever works, work it. Just felt compelled to tell you that.
When I disclosed and apologized to my mom and my brother last weekend. I can see how it related to the 12 steps. Something about making amends right?
I like the serenity prayer. I'm sampling from a buffet of lots of recovery options.
Maybe I'm just too broken because my grandma was sober, met a man who was a 12 stepper, thought he was a gem, then she started drinking with him again. (sounds like a country song) Personally, I am honestly trying to respect everyone's journey through recovery, whatever works, work it. Just felt compelled to tell you that.
THANK YOU , Im happy with my recovery process and I thin Im doing what I need to be doing to make sure I dont relapse......... I think whatever has worked for you then more power to anyone thats staying clean........ I just have found out that staying clean is one thing and healing is a the other!!!!!!!! I feel that healing the wounds of the past and doing the leg work takes abstaining from alcohol and drugs to the level of actually treating the addiction I guess I look at abstaining like the diagnoses and the steps and recovery as the treatment of the disease.......... but again thats only my opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love
Jacque
Love
Jacque
Jacque,
I started therapy when I got post-partum depression back in 1991. That started the ball rolling, so to speak. Worked on ALOT of issues. mainly mom and dad stuff. Naturally, as I got healthier, I had no desire to drink or toke. It just disappeared from my life. Kinda what hippienerd talks about. Didn't even think about it. It was only recently that it occurred to me that I might have been an addict in denial all along. So I'm sitting here thinking I did things a little backwards. But I honestly didn't know about addiction. I could only go by what my heroin/alcohol addicted uncle looked like and figured thank goodness that's not me. And I STOPPED without the 12 steps, so that must mean I'm not an addict. The stuff i told myself. Either way, it's time to work on why I started smoking weed in the FIRST place. I have several months before I get into the program at the hospital. I have three phone numbers to call in an emergency.
Btw, I went to the cemetary last weekend and placed flowers on my grandmas grave, (I closed my eyes and I asked her where my uncle was, her son, as I knew his grave was nearby). I walked to the right a little ways and there he was. Only 60 years old. I put flowers there too. Why am I sharing this? I have no idea.
There is a huge link between death/grieving/drug abuse for me. I hope to get it all sorted out.
I started therapy when I got post-partum depression back in 1991. That started the ball rolling, so to speak. Worked on ALOT of issues. mainly mom and dad stuff. Naturally, as I got healthier, I had no desire to drink or toke. It just disappeared from my life. Kinda what hippienerd talks about. Didn't even think about it. It was only recently that it occurred to me that I might have been an addict in denial all along. So I'm sitting here thinking I did things a little backwards. But I honestly didn't know about addiction. I could only go by what my heroin/alcohol addicted uncle looked like and figured thank goodness that's not me. And I STOPPED without the 12 steps, so that must mean I'm not an addict. The stuff i told myself. Either way, it's time to work on why I started smoking weed in the FIRST place. I have several months before I get into the program at the hospital. I have three phone numbers to call in an emergency.
Btw, I went to the cemetary last weekend and placed flowers on my grandmas grave, (I closed my eyes and I asked her where my uncle was, her son, as I knew his grave was nearby). I walked to the right a little ways and there he was. Only 60 years old. I put flowers there too. Why am I sharing this? I have no idea.
There is a huge link between death/grieving/drug abuse for me. I hope to get it all sorted out.
Goodluck with everything take babysteps and work hard it will al be brought to light when the time is right.........just be ready to deal with it keep your faith and youll be fine
Love
Jacque
Love
Jacque
If it works, its good, I always say.
But Jaque, your first post on this thread didn't sound like you thought any other way had a chance. Addiction has no cure...you need to get the get the footwork done...abstaining ony gets you so far. Would you like to explain to me the difference between abstaining and quitting? I don't seem to be able to grasp the concept. I'm not against using the 12 steps, but I think at best they are just an umbrella unless you heal the pain you are staying dry on a rainy day. Maybe the rest of us would like for you to come out and play in the sun.
But Jaque, your first post on this thread didn't sound like you thought any other way had a chance. Addiction has no cure...you need to get the get the footwork done...abstaining ony gets you so far. Would you like to explain to me the difference between abstaining and quitting? I don't seem to be able to grasp the concept. I'm not against using the 12 steps, but I think at best they are just an umbrella unless you heal the pain you are staying dry on a rainy day. Maybe the rest of us would like for you to come out and play in the sun.
Hey Nathan!!
My name is Kerriann and i have just quit smoking too!! I hope we will chat and maybe we help each other quit our addiction together??
What do you say huh?? I would love to have your support!! I only just realised that i am not alone in this battle against this drug. You are not alone either!! I am with you all the way babe!!
Kerriann!!
My name is Kerriann and i have just quit smoking too!! I hope we will chat and maybe we help each other quit our addiction together??
What do you say huh?? I would love to have your support!! I only just realised that i am not alone in this battle against this drug. You are not alone either!! I am with you all the way babe!!
Kerriann!!
Hello Kerriann,
Welcome to the board. I just discovered this board last week, has been very helpful to me. It has been very helpful to me to realize that I am not alone in dealing with my addiction.
One thing I'm trying not to do is being too hard on myself (still working on it, I am waaaay too hard on myself a lot of the time). The fact that we are seeking out support and recognizing our problem is a MAJOR positive step.
I'm with you all the way, too......Let's do it!
Nathan
Welcome to the board. I just discovered this board last week, has been very helpful to me. It has been very helpful to me to realize that I am not alone in dealing with my addiction.
One thing I'm trying not to do is being too hard on myself (still working on it, I am waaaay too hard on myself a lot of the time). The fact that we are seeking out support and recognizing our problem is a MAJOR positive step.
I'm with you all the way, too......Let's do it!
Nathan
