Jeremy,
I was wondering about you? How are you doing today?
happy new year to everyone
Has anybody found that life is a little tough because the pharmacists think that we are second class citizens....if i was trying to obviously trick them i could understand there thoughts but it is quite obvios when someone is genuine and wants to be free of this disease, so why do they treat us like third class citizens? the strange thing is that i can afford to buy the pharmacy 100 times and am happy to help other people in my situation. Is this a normal reaction?
Has anybody found that life is a little tough because the pharmacists think that we are second class citizens....if i was trying to obviously trick them i could understand there thoughts but it is quite obvios when someone is genuine and wants to be free of this disease, so why do they treat us like third class citizens? the strange thing is that i can afford to buy the pharmacy 100 times and am happy to help other people in my situation. Is this a normal reaction?
Yes Jeremy. I know how you feel.
I have been wondering about you? Have you tried to taper off of the subutex yet? How is everything going? Atlas
I have been wondering about you? Have you tried to taper off of the subutex yet? How is everything going? Atlas
if i just stop taking tablets on the dosage of 0.4 x 2 daily, what are the symptoms that are going to happen to me. thank you for your help
....jeremy..i don,t mean to butt in here...i was just reading wot you were sayiny...IMO..i don,t think you should just stop taking them like that...but maybe take .quaters evey other day until you are down to a breadcrumbs worth.....you need to keep feeding your receptors.....maybe some insomnia when you stop..but personally...if you,ve got your subutex with ya...i would do it the way i said..JMHO.....i hope all goes well....robbie...
what are the symptoms to detox if i stop now please..i have had enough of those pills and feel stupid even fter i have taken one..does anybody out there understand what i mean? please tell how long it should take? and what will happen? thanks
....jeremy....yeah..i do know wot you mean.....i can,t tell you about the..w/ds...but i know you will suffer a lot of insomnia...maybe the w/ds will be bad...maybe they won,t...due to the amount your taking.......if you,ve got the subs with ya....then put them aside and give it a go....if you can,t handle what your feeling....then take a sub....just make sure you,ve got your pills just in case......drink plenty of water...and have things like soup and cereals and that....because you might not feel like eating to good.....try and not to get anxious thinking about it.....give it a go and try and relax......i hope thats helped ya....good luck in getting clean....robbie...
thamks a lot for your reply and i will try it until i am on breadcrumbs, if i have insomnia should i take something to help me sleep.
Perhaps this is irrelevant but i am sure there is a related answer. When i was taking larger doses of subutex i never drank a lot of alcohol, just at weekends and certainly never craved for a drink to get drunk. However as my intake of subutex decreases to virtually nothing. I seem to be getting drunk a hell of a lot more and enjoy it too much and sometimes get a little depressed the next day and by 3 oclock i am craving for a drink. Is this related at all?
Perhaps this is irrelevant but i am sure there is a related answer. When i was taking larger doses of subutex i never drank a lot of alcohol, just at weekends and certainly never craved for a drink to get drunk. However as my intake of subutex decreases to virtually nothing. I seem to be getting drunk a hell of a lot more and enjoy it too much and sometimes get a little depressed the next day and by 3 oclock i am craving for a drink. Is this related at all?
.....if ya wanna take s/thing to help you sleep thats up to you....i only took s/thing once to help me sleep..but i was coming off heroin..(..you may feel the same way as me..i don,t know.)...regards to the drinking...JMHO....sounds like you might be substituting one for the other....personally i would,nt drink while on medication..(i used to before)..and you could be damaging the effects of wot the subs are doing to your body ...because of the alcohol..you could block the sub from working...and go into precipitated withdrawal....just be careful with wot your doing jeremy....good luck.......ps..........i think i know that you know that its dangerous to drink alcohol while under medication.?......just a thought...robbie..
Hi Jeremy
I am in the UK too.
Sub here is also called temgesic and has been used for many many years for pain control and has been being used here in Europe for a while now for opiate withdrawal. There is much more experience here in Europe than in the US as it has been used for very much longer - so do check out the European sites?
Have you had no luck with your GP? He should know all about it. If he doesnt - perhaps you could try his partner or another GP - you really shouldnt have too much difficulty in getting information.
Good luck
Simple
I am in the UK too.
Sub here is also called temgesic and has been used for many many years for pain control and has been being used here in Europe for a while now for opiate withdrawal. There is much more experience here in Europe than in the US as it has been used for very much longer - so do check out the European sites?
Have you had no luck with your GP? He should know all about it. If he doesnt - perhaps you could try his partner or another GP - you really shouldnt have too much difficulty in getting information.
Good luck
Simple
Hi Jeremy...Yes, I think the drinking issue is related. You are addicted to a narcotic, and your body will crave whatever will keep you from getting sick/depressed/insomniac/etc. Substituting one substance for another is never going to get you where you want to go. It will only make your life more chaotic. I have very astutely heard it described as "switching seats on the Titanic." I have definitely upped my drinking in order to get through withdrawals many, many times. I'm not a doctor; that is my opinion.
I have had nasty withdrawals coming off suboxone. I was on a short term taper. My lowest dosage was 1 mg, not much more than the .8 mg your taking now. But everybody is different. Subutex is so long-acting that you could cut your dose by alternating days (take your lowest dose one day, skip it the next, and so on) as well as breaking up your tablets to get an even slower detox process. I don't know if this would help, as I never tried it, but it's an idea.
I hope you keep posting about how tapering goes for you. I am still in need of answers myself. Opiate addiction is nasty. Physically it's a nightmare; for me it is even worse psychologically. Best of luck.
Mary
I have had nasty withdrawals coming off suboxone. I was on a short term taper. My lowest dosage was 1 mg, not much more than the .8 mg your taking now. But everybody is different. Subutex is so long-acting that you could cut your dose by alternating days (take your lowest dose one day, skip it the next, and so on) as well as breaking up your tablets to get an even slower detox process. I don't know if this would help, as I never tried it, but it's an idea.
I hope you keep posting about how tapering goes for you. I am still in need of answers myself. Opiate addiction is nasty. Physically it's a nightmare; for me it is even worse psychologically. Best of luck.
Mary
Jeremy,
You are on such a low dose of sub, you really should not have too many symptoms. I really don't think it should be too bad for you. Go back and read some of what we discussed when you first started this thread and try some of those things. I think you can do this. You may have some insomnia, sweating, chills, upset stomach, etc. However, it should be comparable to a flu and only last for a few days. You may not even have those symptoms. Only one way to find out....Best wishes to you. Atlas
You are on such a low dose of sub, you really should not have too many symptoms. I really don't think it should be too bad for you. Go back and read some of what we discussed when you first started this thread and try some of those things. I think you can do this. You may have some insomnia, sweating, chills, upset stomach, etc. However, it should be comparable to a flu and only last for a few days. You may not even have those symptoms. Only one way to find out....Best wishes to you. Atlas
thank you for all the advice.It has made me feel more confident and less frightened. I will let you know how i get on and what happens,if anything i hope.
Thanks Jeremy.
Don't be a stranger. I'd like to hear how thigs turn out for you. You're on the right track if you stay away from the dihydrocodiene. Take care, Atlas
Don't be a stranger. I'd like to hear how thigs turn out for you. You're on the right track if you stay away from the dihydrocodiene. Take care, Atlas
I STARTED A NEW THREAD AT:
http://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...=0&#entry315691
ITS CALLED FROM PILLS TO SUBOXONE IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE
http://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...=0&#entry315691
ITS CALLED FROM PILLS TO SUBOXONE IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE
hi jeremy
i have got clean by using sub before and the tried and tested method uses reduction at 0.4mg a week.........once you have been on 0.4 for a week you can stop.
when i stopped lest year i stopped on 0.4 mg........the w/ds were very mild.......i had disturbed sleep for a couple of weeks and felt a bit grumpy but for me the lethargy was the worst........get over that and its plain sailing from there.......my only problem was staying clean and after a few months i relapsed........i am now back on the sub and reducing from 8mg down to 6mg.....then its 4mg then 0.4mg a week until i finish.
good luck with it all and stay in touch.
ruprect
i have got clean by using sub before and the tried and tested method uses reduction at 0.4mg a week.........once you have been on 0.4 for a week you can stop.
when i stopped lest year i stopped on 0.4 mg........the w/ds were very mild.......i had disturbed sleep for a couple of weeks and felt a bit grumpy but for me the lethargy was the worst........get over that and its plain sailing from there.......my only problem was staying clean and after a few months i relapsed........i am now back on the sub and reducing from 8mg down to 6mg.....then its 4mg then 0.4mg a week until i finish.
good luck with it all and stay in touch.
ruprect
ruprect,
you really understand my situation, it is probably not serious but feels like it, subutex is probably easier to break physically than mentally but your experience is valuable to me and i thank you for your comments.....please give me more advice....i can only wish you all the will in the world to rid your self of this crap and get on with life..thank you
you really understand my situation, it is probably not serious but feels like it, subutex is probably easier to break physically than mentally but your experience is valuable to me and i thank you for your comments.....please give me more advice....i can only wish you all the will in the world to rid your self of this crap and get on with life..thank you
