The Hole Gets Deeper

This last week i've been trying to kick. My head is ready my body is FIGHTING something awful. I'm so so dope sick it happens so fast!. Too not be sick I need 3 to 4 shots a day. I'm getting so broke i've no savings. I have misssed 4 days of work two trips to the emergency room in the last week. I do not want to go back to the methadone clinic. i have been off/on methadone 4 times. It's been over 15 years dealing with this addiction. I'm so depressed. I'm losing hope i'm close to pawning stuff to get right. I hate myself.
get back to the methadone, it worked,you had a life, get back there zg hang in there
Is it better to be on and off methadone or on and off H? You need it and you need meetings or something else. You have fought the meeting thing for years...maybe it's time to try something someone else's way, ZG...

Peace ~ M&M
Thanks for replies ladies :) im still in a bad spot. I still dont know what im doing to get out of it.
Z-

I also have made a wrong turn. THe klinic tells me I cant get back on until I pay the back bill of 450.00 - -
I dont have anything near that. All that can be pawned was pawned yrs ago- -No Job ,No money, only my G/F,s car- -sold mine in Ct (we needed the money to keep the heat on and pay the insurance on her 2011 Subaru -
Probably gonna have to get on a klinic in NJ- closer than the one in NY-

gOTTA DO IT SOON- you hang in there,,,s*** if I can >>You can!!!!!!

TO BE contd,
jack
Jack, if you still have a cell phone and my number, send me a text. If not, send me an email, if not, come back here and let me know and we'll figure something out...xo ~S
Hi Jack -Zero--hang in there guys--I certainly understand sometimes our disease and ramifications suck--

Stay positive--we are all strong and can handle any of this s***-I have to believe despite what transpired to me in the past year--fighting multiple diseases I can handle but for me there is no more help as the healthcare for me is 75% gone--relate to your $$$ issues etc--

kinda out of it caught your thread--

Have a good Sunday guys

Jeffrey

P.S--Hi Mom
Hey Jack/ZG
ZG,I know about yer struggles chick,n,if you can,get yerself back to that clinic,,fr one,,yer way too weak in the head not to be on a script,n,also,its not just you ye have to think of!!1Ye cant be dope sick as ye call it and take care of yrself AND yer family!!
Jack!! Man,i read you all wrong,,i honestly thought you were flying high,,off yr script and dealing with life ok..I didn't realise you were struggling mate sorry...
Im still waiting to get started myself,,im not lookin forward to it,n,still got it in my head to get myself clean again without going down that road though deep down I know I need it fr stability,n,to start dealing with all the s*** in my life..
Compared to our Yankee brothers,n,sisters across the pond though we have it a lot easier than yerselves with our National Health Service"NHS"
Guys,,forgetting myself!!!I really hope things get better for yeez,,after all ive known both of you from this board fr a few years now plus I have the occasional chat with ZG on the FBook now,n,again..keep the chins up guys.............ECK...PS..I now know how to save a life at least until an ambulance comes as ive done my naloxone training,,,its one of the things they make you do on the road to getting a script.,.x
Jack was really out of it--and just re-read your post. I thought that u were down low dose of methadone? if yes have u ever tried suboxone?

its not easy but if ur persistent f the government--I have a grant helps with asthma another helps with direct pharacudical companies.
I remember things were pretty good --last time I read ur pots--

Giants 2 in a row -( WE BLOW DESPITE 2 WINS)-were u not a Giant fan???

Hang in there man--Jeff
That's what sucks about most methadone clinics in the south, they are for profit & if u don't have the $'s, well- go get sick.

What about finding a Dr or shrink to write subutex , it's cheap, & works just like suboxone. It will get u completely off of E almost immeadiatly , & works for maintenance. I've read some posts here that people have used sub to fairly quickly detox off of H.
Thanks for the concern- - you guys are old friends.
. .I NEVER thought I would be this fu**kin up- but Pain magt wasnt going to carry me forever,,and I just couldnt handle being free from all opiates with this spinal pain and surgery comin up. . So yeah, its been a mdone-heroin struggle- -who wouldve thought- - 25 plus yrs on a klinic- -clean(pain mangt) for 6 months- - then booted off Pm- -the klinic in Ct wont let me on with a benzo script-
Back to NY- wont let me on---I need a psychiatrist to write the benzo script,,not a regular MD
NOW TRYING TO GET ON IN nj- every day is another day that I have to have a plan- -at 57 yrs old ,,,are you kiddin me?? Some days it takes me 1/2 hour B-4 I can get out of bed .-
I read some of my old posts and I remember when it was so different- -

send me some good karma you guys
loveand respect
jack
Sorry bout ur struggle. Many of these legit pain clinics really suck. If u step outside the lines even a little, even unknowingly or unintentionally, they throw u out on the spot, and don't give a damn if u have been going there for years & will end up in withdrawels & all that entails. They then cover their a$$ by sending u a letter suggesting u get treatment at another pain clinic.

My wife who is not an addict or an abuser had been prescribes oxys and hydros for a year. She decided not to use oxys every day, and when they didn't show up in her urine they said she was non compliant and threw her out.

I was thrown out of the same clinic a couple years before. I was in a bad MC accident and for a year or two they gave me opama & morphien for breakthrough pain. I was and am an addict but they didn't know that & were increasing my dosage whenever I wanted. Finally I got off it with sub, but I didn't tell them. I just canceled my next appointment. Well after a few months I was reularly trying to abuse sub, or use it in an attmept to come down. It didn't do much,but that didn't stop me from trying. My month script was gone in about 10 days, WD's kicked in. I made an appt at the pain clinic & they asked where I had been. I told them I had been trying to wean my way off the meds and made the scripts last for months, but unfortunately I was still in severe pain. I made the mistake of telling them someone gave me some herbal suppliments, and they told me they could no longer help me. I was able to talk them into writing me a small script for hydro, & then I was out. Even though it's true I was entirely full of $hit, they didn't know that. They would no longer treat me because I made the mistake of telling them I took something once or twice for my pain that they didn't prescribe. It did not matter to them that it was not a narcotic.

Have the methadone rules changed in NY? I could be wrong, but I think when I was on Methadone throughout the 90's in Buffalo , there were people in the program who were prescribed benzos.

I hope things work out.

Harry