well a wek ago, my hubby came to me, and told me he say a lawyer, about a sepraction, i was in a little bet off shock, he told me i had to make a choess, him our the pills, well, 2days later, he wants to go to the cosnio, and he said well put it, on the shelf, for now, and start all over again, ive been thinking off going on the meth prog, our having someone give me my meds, dayly, i don,t want to lose my marige, but i don,t, want to live in pain al the time, thanks karen
What exactly is causing your pain?
Danny, Karen had back surgery. From her last few post she was taking her meds as perscribed and a nurse friend of hers was trying to help her weine off of the pills. Shantel
And sub is not an option because she is in Canada if I remember..tough one
Karen, if you are taking them as prescribed, why is your husband upset?
Karen, if you are taking them as prescribed, why is your husband upset?
Faith what is your drug history ?
Methadone? That is the last resort for you. other options. to pursue
Jeff
Methadone? That is the last resort for you. other options. to pursue
Jeff
Good morning Danny.
Danny I could habve sworn there are some posters in canada who are on sub?
Jeff
Danny I could habve sworn there are some posters in canada who are on sub?
Jeff
Jeff they are but they drive to the states to get it.
They can enroll in a special access program which according to this article they are not taking anymore patients.
Karen you can inquire about this program in your area, maybe they have a waiting list?
keep in mind this was written in 03
http://www.cfpc.ca/cfp/2003/Jul/vol...-critical-1.asp
UPDATE Not sure what this means, it says it is available, or was available in 05, then 06, but only in clinical studies. Karen do as I have just done, I googled buprenorphine available in Canada, see what you come up with. it may or may not be there yet.
http://www.docguide.com/news/conten...5256FA8004B9BCC
They can enroll in a special access program which according to this article they are not taking anymore patients.
Karen you can inquire about this program in your area, maybe they have a waiting list?
keep in mind this was written in 03
http://www.cfpc.ca/cfp/2003/Jul/vol...-critical-1.asp
UPDATE Not sure what this means, it says it is available, or was available in 05, then 06, but only in clinical studies. Karen do as I have just done, I googled buprenorphine available in Canada, see what you come up with. it may or may not be there yet.
http://www.docguide.com/news/conten...5256FA8004B9BCC
thanks for the replys , omg, can things get woerse ya they probly can, and will if i don,t do something soon, ive beenfighting a lot with my son, his gone from having a realy good paying job to wellfaer, and living in a room, i get my gradkids 3our 4 days a week, and theres, a lot going on there too, but, thats a nother stoer, well my son has been drinking, and his on meth, and i worry all the time becuse off the stuff his on, he came over today so drunk, i can,t take all the sh[[[, going on all the time, as you know my hubby and i have been not doing well, i feel so helples, in everthing, i don,t now how to help my son, im scaerd his going kill himself, on all the meds his on, my husbean just told him he can not come here enymoer, he has no phone,so ill have to go over to check on him, i hate having to live like this, my life is a mess, thanks karen.
Brooke Thats F-in Bull Man that pisses me off.
If you have $ you think the medicine is not available. This country is really in the toilet. But shoot we will deliver and nurse to health 12-16 million illegal aliens for free.
But our own people cant get into treatment or even a lousy freakin pill that can save an opiates addicts life.
Just not right.
Faith I read your posts and I really have nothing to tell you. except i was told God never puts more on our plate than we can deal with.
You must be a very strong woman. Try to determine which of your problems you can possibly improve upon and use your energies there.
If your son is so far gone? The kids?
Hang in there-Oh faith if there are programs that you possibly can get on Sub look into them.
Suboxone is a really good med if your having major troubles with Opiates.
Jeff
If you have $ you think the medicine is not available. This country is really in the toilet. But shoot we will deliver and nurse to health 12-16 million illegal aliens for free.
But our own people cant get into treatment or even a lousy freakin pill that can save an opiates addicts life.
Just not right.
Faith I read your posts and I really have nothing to tell you. except i was told God never puts more on our plate than we can deal with.
You must be a very strong woman. Try to determine which of your problems you can possibly improve upon and use your energies there.
If your son is so far gone? The kids?
Hang in there-Oh faith if there are programs that you possibly can get on Sub look into them.
Suboxone is a really good med if your having major troubles with Opiates.
Jeff
thanks jeff, for the reply, yes they say god never gives you moer then you can handel, but i wonder sometimes, i don,t now way we can get meth here but not sub, i realy don,t want to go on the meth program, becuse my son, is on it, and he would just throu it in my face, sade but true, ive been trying to ween downe to 1oxy, aday, its not been to bade, my life was so deffernt bfore, all off this, now i have to make a chosse so my hubby says, he does not caer that i just had back suerger, its him our the pills, im so confused, enymoer, ive been controled for 26 years, just left everthing up to him, well thanks again, karen.
karen listen to yourself, first of all be it meth, sub or pain pills, he is going to leave you either way according to you. A pill is a pill is a pill.
And I do not believe for one minute he is going to leave you for taking pills, because he himself takes them according to your previous posts. If he leaves it will be for no other reason than the relationship that the two of you once had, is no longer. OR he is clean and having pills around him makes it hard for him to remain clean. Only he knows the reasons and maybe you know too.
I know we are only hearing one side of this, but lets say he is clean now and you are abusing or taking as directed, he should be at least supporting you either with recovery or accepting the fact that you may be on pain management the rest of your life. HE knows about addiction, so I can only surmise that something else is going on.
|You said that he was using again in previous posts, is this still the case?
Either way you cant' give them to him to hold for you.
Remember he has said this to you many times before, that he would leave if you didnt come off, even in rehab he said this to you.
If he leaves, honey you do not need a man to live life, you are your own person with your own strengths, you don't know it yet, but you are stronger than you give yourself credit for.
As far as your son goes, many have said to you, he is an adult, you can't do much for him except love him and turn it over to GOD.
You need to decide if you are going to keep taking pills, try another means of pain management, or go into a detox/rehab unit for a long time. You need to think about YOU not your husband, nor your son at this moment. You have been on this merry go round long enough. So what if he leaves, you can't stop it or change it, if he loved you in my opinion, he would help you, not threaten you.
Have you even tried to find out if sub is now available? I posted a link the second one you should read. And lets say it is, is he going to leave you for taking sub? or meth? It is still a pill still an opiate. So what would be the difference according to him? Would he be open to sub or meth?
Karen if you need pain management due to whatever is wrong with you, then you need to find a way to deal with it. I suggest you and your doctor come up with a plan to help you live a productive life pain free. Not knowing your medical history, there are a ton of new drugs on the market that are not opiate related.
How much does a detox/rehab place cost in Canada? do you have insurance?
You can detox at home with help from your doctor with comfort meds, ie clonadin, sleep aids, AD if needed. If you do not have on going pain issues since the surgery which you had to rid of the problem yes or no?
You have run out of pills enough times to know what WD feel like, at some point you will say ' i have had enough'. I do hope the surgery was to alleviate the pain issues you were having that started you on pills to begin with.
Clearly you are struggling, wouldn't it be nice to not have that cloud over your head?
I know karen i have been where you are, most on here have or are in similar situations, some with family issues some not.
I wish you well in whatever you decide.
And I do not believe for one minute he is going to leave you for taking pills, because he himself takes them according to your previous posts. If he leaves it will be for no other reason than the relationship that the two of you once had, is no longer. OR he is clean and having pills around him makes it hard for him to remain clean. Only he knows the reasons and maybe you know too.
I know we are only hearing one side of this, but lets say he is clean now and you are abusing or taking as directed, he should be at least supporting you either with recovery or accepting the fact that you may be on pain management the rest of your life. HE knows about addiction, so I can only surmise that something else is going on.
|You said that he was using again in previous posts, is this still the case?
Either way you cant' give them to him to hold for you.
Remember he has said this to you many times before, that he would leave if you didnt come off, even in rehab he said this to you.
If he leaves, honey you do not need a man to live life, you are your own person with your own strengths, you don't know it yet, but you are stronger than you give yourself credit for.
As far as your son goes, many have said to you, he is an adult, you can't do much for him except love him and turn it over to GOD.
You need to decide if you are going to keep taking pills, try another means of pain management, or go into a detox/rehab unit for a long time. You need to think about YOU not your husband, nor your son at this moment. You have been on this merry go round long enough. So what if he leaves, you can't stop it or change it, if he loved you in my opinion, he would help you, not threaten you.
Have you even tried to find out if sub is now available? I posted a link the second one you should read. And lets say it is, is he going to leave you for taking sub? or meth? It is still a pill still an opiate. So what would be the difference according to him? Would he be open to sub or meth?
Karen if you need pain management due to whatever is wrong with you, then you need to find a way to deal with it. I suggest you and your doctor come up with a plan to help you live a productive life pain free. Not knowing your medical history, there are a ton of new drugs on the market that are not opiate related.
How much does a detox/rehab place cost in Canada? do you have insurance?
You can detox at home with help from your doctor with comfort meds, ie clonadin, sleep aids, AD if needed. If you do not have on going pain issues since the surgery which you had to rid of the problem yes or no?
You have run out of pills enough times to know what WD feel like, at some point you will say ' i have had enough'. I do hope the surgery was to alleviate the pain issues you were having that started you on pills to begin with.
Clearly you are struggling, wouldn't it be nice to not have that cloud over your head?
I know karen i have been where you are, most on here have or are in similar situations, some with family issues some not.
I wish you well in whatever you decide.
brook, thankyou, for your kind words, well today i was realy in a lot off pain, and did, not have enything, till saterday, so i asked my hubby, for 20, he gave it, to me with the threat, like always, well wene i got home a friend called him, and this is a vary close friend to my husbean, he asked if he could help him get somthing, for pain, well my lovly husbean asked me, and stuped me said yes, now whaen ive gone thro with drul, my husbean would make me bag, for a pill, to help me, go thro withdruls, what gets me is his friend calles, and there is nothing he won,t do for him, this is the same person that went to narcone, with him and paid 50,000, with now prob, i gusse im hurt, he says no to me all the time and when he does say yes, i have to pay back ever,penny, i don,t now what is going to happen i do now there has to be some big changes, in my home, with everone this is not just me, its booth off us, he is vary controling, and has been for 25,years, but like he says i have the probl, not him, i do whant to get off this maerygo around, and have some peace in my heart, but its going to take work, i just wish he would stop thrting me, thats what he did last year at this time i was in reahb, and i did good till he startd, with im going to take our home away, then i just said f,it, way bother, he would talk to the conselers, and i fealt like no one was listeing to me, our my side, its al most a repet, off last april, im loking into the meth program, so will see, thanks again brook you are a good friend, love karen.
karen is it time for you to get some 'balls' and say NO to him, ask yourself this when he asks for YOUR pills, 'what is the worse that can happen if i say no'?
The answer is simple, he will continue to do what he is doing to you regardless, you can wish all you want, he is what he is, you will not change him, nor will he change you.
I have no problem saying no to anyone, once you see that by saying no, it become very easy. I used to say yes because I was insecure with myself, this was years ago, and each time i said yes, I was the one that got the raw end of the deal, my own doing, finally I started saying no, i got tired of being the one that people took advantage of, or let me say I allowed them too, and it was the best thing I ever mastered,
And you nor anyone owes an explanation to anyone as to why you do not want to do something. People feel an obligation to explain or come up with an excuse as to why they are saying no, no one needs anything except a simple yes or no. If people feel they want to explain more power to them.
You see I get frustrated when you cow down to him. He is controlling you because you let him. Time to take a stand girlie.
I can only hope you take the suggestions offered here by all of us and put them into action. Only you can change the way you are living. You cant change him karen i cant say this enough, but you can change you.
I think once you stop allowing him to control you, you will see a whole new world that is very peaceful.
The answer is simple, he will continue to do what he is doing to you regardless, you can wish all you want, he is what he is, you will not change him, nor will he change you.
I have no problem saying no to anyone, once you see that by saying no, it become very easy. I used to say yes because I was insecure with myself, this was years ago, and each time i said yes, I was the one that got the raw end of the deal, my own doing, finally I started saying no, i got tired of being the one that people took advantage of, or let me say I allowed them too, and it was the best thing I ever mastered,
And you nor anyone owes an explanation to anyone as to why you do not want to do something. People feel an obligation to explain or come up with an excuse as to why they are saying no, no one needs anything except a simple yes or no. If people feel they want to explain more power to them.
You see I get frustrated when you cow down to him. He is controlling you because you let him. Time to take a stand girlie.
I can only hope you take the suggestions offered here by all of us and put them into action. Only you can change the way you are living. You cant change him karen i cant say this enough, but you can change you.
I think once you stop allowing him to control you, you will see a whole new world that is very peaceful.
What I hear from your posts Karen...(no disrespect at all) Is excuse after excuse after excuse. It seems its always someones else's fault why you use!Your pain, your son...your grand kids! Your husbands friend! Something someone said or did to you...do you see the pattern??? I know that you have legit pain...that makes this more complicated. There are many here that have chronic, debilitating pain....some that have gone through major surgery, broken bones and extreme dental work! So many have come through will little or no narcotic pain pill use!!! There will always be a justification for using! As addicts we will hunt down these excuses and glom onto them. I am not wanting to be insensitive. I just hope that you realize the pattern.
At some point you have to take control of your life and stop making excuses to use and find some excuses to STOP using!!
I am not judging you....I have seen you post this over and over again for 2 years Karen! Time is ticking...its not easy to do the right things...but when you do...your life will improve....that is a promise!
At some point you have to take control of your life and stop making excuses to use and find some excuses to STOP using!!
I am not judging you....I have seen you post this over and over again for 2 years Karen! Time is ticking...its not easy to do the right things...but when you do...your life will improve....that is a promise!
i have always had a problem with saying NO, even in recovory, thankyou for your onesty, i need to here that, im not happy yousing, its does not get me hight, it just makes me feel normal, and not sick, im realy in a delema, about the meth, part off me wants too, the other part is scaerd, ive seen so manny people, be on it, for years, and its hard to get on it here, there is a waiting list, but i know i can,t live like this enymoer, its not life, always worrying, about meds, and if i have enuff, ive been thinking about going back into rehab, just not the one i was in befor, maybe TO, i emailed them so im waiting for a reply, but i feel like i need to go away, to do it, just to mush for me to worry about here all the time, and then thers the control off my hubby, so if i go away, i think it would be better, for everone, so ill let you now if i get a reply, thanks again karen.
