I was on a bus the other day when i overheard two people discussing an article that was in the local paper about how the TDPS (local Drug Problem Centre) had improved their service over the past few years, and how people with drug problems are getting more help now that ever....
Were they happy about it? Were they F*&k, i think the term they used was something like " I'd lock them up and throw away the key blah blah blah" " Is that what my taxes are going on?" " Junkie BA*&$%"
I just wish people like that with such a one stop mind could see a message board like this. I've been reading posts on here and going to NA for just under 2 weeks and i see nothin but love and positive energy all round. Who says people can't change? Long may it continue...
Keep the faith and don't let a dark past spoil a bright future,
Kev
Hey Kev,
You're sounding really good.......that's great......I know people at meetings they'd give ya the shirt off their backs..........good people......and everyone on here they are the best.
I hear ya on that one and feel as you do.........and until it touches them somehow........which I hope it won't, but yeah until it's your son, father, brother or mom it's real simple to think that way.......sad but true.
My own dad was a police officer........he's passed over, but I remember growing up late 60's and early 70's and him yelling about Janis Joplin the filthy, rotten junkie, and how "they'll" never change........then the ever popular "once a junkie always a junkie"........so I was mortified and ashamed when he found out about me......kind of still can't live that one down........although he didn't kick me to the curb.......tried to help me.......but he saw the destruction and chaos dope causes every day on the streets........so not condoning the thought process, but I sort of knew why he felt like that.
We're proving that old adage wrong though, Kev........no, we ain't always gonna be junkies........we're fighting the good fight.......and hecka yeah we're decent human beings with a ton of heart.......and human kindness....hopefully at some point the disease of addiction will be recognized as just that.
Take care, Kev and keep up the great work......you're doing good....hey, another good thing about this board.......insomnia in the US fits to the UK schedule and vice versa.......worrying =no sleep.....lucky today is a holiday here though......toodles, Kev......good post...heck with them people and their rotten stigma induced thoughts.......you got all of us.
You're sounding really good.......that's great......I know people at meetings they'd give ya the shirt off their backs..........good people......and everyone on here they are the best.
I hear ya on that one and feel as you do.........and until it touches them somehow........which I hope it won't, but yeah until it's your son, father, brother or mom it's real simple to think that way.......sad but true.
My own dad was a police officer........he's passed over, but I remember growing up late 60's and early 70's and him yelling about Janis Joplin the filthy, rotten junkie, and how "they'll" never change........then the ever popular "once a junkie always a junkie"........so I was mortified and ashamed when he found out about me......kind of still can't live that one down........although he didn't kick me to the curb.......tried to help me.......but he saw the destruction and chaos dope causes every day on the streets........so not condoning the thought process, but I sort of knew why he felt like that.
We're proving that old adage wrong though, Kev........no, we ain't always gonna be junkies........we're fighting the good fight.......and hecka yeah we're decent human beings with a ton of heart.......and human kindness....hopefully at some point the disease of addiction will be recognized as just that.
Take care, Kev and keep up the great work......you're doing good....hey, another good thing about this board.......insomnia in the US fits to the UK schedule and vice versa.......worrying =no sleep.....lucky today is a holiday here though......toodles, Kev......good post...heck with them people and their rotten stigma induced thoughts.......you got all of us.
Hey Bryn, How you doing? Yeah i know what you mean about it only touchin people if it's a member of their family ect. My mate's mum used to look down her nose at us a few years back as we were habitted up, but now her son is and i now think she realises we're not just junkies, it can happenn to anyone... we didn't intend to become addicts, did we?
Like you said we're fighting the good fight and with help we should win, eh? What i've realised in the past 5 weeks is it is an illness / disease but i'm just finding it hard getting my head round that...
Cheers for the post, keep up the positive vibes,
Kev
Like you said we're fighting the good fight and with help we should win, eh? What i've realised in the past 5 weeks is it is an illness / disease but i'm just finding it hard getting my head round that...
Cheers for the post, keep up the positive vibes,
Kev
I know what you mean. It has always really annoyed me the 'scum' reputation that junkies have.
When I started hanging out with a heroin addict I was barred from my local - for sitting on the streets - ????!!!!!!!!!!! work that one out!!!!, and several people who I had known a long time started to ignore me.
They are just narrow minded pawns of the system who think life is about getting up and going to work to keep the economy going!! Give me the junkies anyday!!!
When I started hanging out with a heroin addict I was barred from my local - for sitting on the streets - ????!!!!!!!!!!! work that one out!!!!, and several people who I had known a long time started to ignore me.
They are just narrow minded pawns of the system who think life is about getting up and going to work to keep the economy going!! Give me the junkies anyday!!!
To start I totally think addicts can and do change "i know because i did". I just might get some grief for this but, I do live by the "NEVER TRUST A JUNKIE" school of thought. I have a full understanding of how the "Active addict" mind works. Lets get real i stole from my own mother i'ld steal from you to. In part the bad rep junkies get is for a reason "sorry to break that" that is my oppion.
I think people making fun of attempts to help Any sick addict is just sad, my own family was very non supportive of me attending methadone treatment. For some people rehads and social programs do works miracles. My own fiance has never had a addict in the family never had a issue himself. He don't get addiction at all. I could see him saying let em all die.
People like to judge others it's a self esteem boast for them. For most of the population they don't have a full understanding of addiction. They see Addicts as a drain on tax dollars lost causes. The recovery rate is honestly LOW people know that. I don't know what the whole point of my post was but, there it is.
I think people making fun of attempts to help Any sick addict is just sad, my own family was very non supportive of me attending methadone treatment. For some people rehads and social programs do works miracles. My own fiance has never had a addict in the family never had a issue himself. He don't get addiction at all. I could see him saying let em all die.
People like to judge others it's a self esteem boast for them. For most of the population they don't have a full understanding of addiction. They see Addicts as a drain on tax dollars lost causes. The recovery rate is honestly LOW people know that. I don't know what the whole point of my post was but, there it is.
I bite my tongue a million times a week, where I live they want to shoot junkies all they see are the poor ones collecting their scripts. I know teachers, a dentist and a doctor on smack. I know business men driving around in big expensive cars who are on a bag a day. They dress well, work and try to stay in the game so people don't know, if they knew really knew who the addicts were they'd freak and as for Charlie users that's a lot of people in the public eye.
I suppose what I'm saying is unlike zero girl my experience is that not all addicts steal or lie because they don't need too, my man treats everyone with tremendous integrity it's just himself he treats like crap.
Stay on the board Kev there are many good people here
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See that......we're a versatile bunch we are.
That a good lookout there, ZG.......as always you point out things we bypassed......true it is.......as far as knowing how an addict can rip ya off in two seconds flat.
Then like Jazwan said there are those that maintain for years and years...keep up appearances.........have the loot to get their dope......only no doubt they'd miss work if they can't hook up.
My experience has been though that almost all addicts I met along the way.....were kind people.......everyone had a story.......and yeah maybe they were partly not true.......that lie stuff it becomes a habit in itself.....but pretty much I met some really, really decent human beings out there.....like a girl said to me once.........my name is dope fiend....that's what they call me....I got a label.....BUT I'm still kind to animals and small children......PROFOUND!
To add though where I am from it used to be an all open air drug market....with a feeling of a bazzarr almost........you knew you were getting your dope......nobody was shooting eachother because nobody stepped on another's corner......it was run well........so nobody got crazed out there.
You'd see these Mercedes pull up.......and bautiful women would jump out and score.......and then men with European cut suits in Alfo Romao's.....them sports cars......and they'd tell you how their wives would put the dope in EPIDURALS...........all I used to think is WOW......Woooooo that's crazy.
But then I'd be waiting in line and these kids......I call them kids.....young people with their college book bags on their back.......and they had to rush to get to class.....they'd walked miles and miles to get there cause they needed the car fare towards their dope........and then the homeless.....and they'd be crouched over sick.......so yeah it's I guess in drugs like the rest of the world.
A class thing........only you may wind up on the lower rung cause the dope put ya down there.........peace out y'all.......I'm a decent person though.. I think.
I know my friend Tres she is one of the most decent people I have ever met....I'd trust her with my life........and she'd give a stranger anything they needed.
That a good lookout there, ZG.......as always you point out things we bypassed......true it is.......as far as knowing how an addict can rip ya off in two seconds flat.
Then like Jazwan said there are those that maintain for years and years...keep up appearances.........have the loot to get their dope......only no doubt they'd miss work if they can't hook up.
My experience has been though that almost all addicts I met along the way.....were kind people.......everyone had a story.......and yeah maybe they were partly not true.......that lie stuff it becomes a habit in itself.....but pretty much I met some really, really decent human beings out there.....like a girl said to me once.........my name is dope fiend....that's what they call me....I got a label.....BUT I'm still kind to animals and small children......PROFOUND!
To add though where I am from it used to be an all open air drug market....with a feeling of a bazzarr almost........you knew you were getting your dope......nobody was shooting eachother because nobody stepped on another's corner......it was run well........so nobody got crazed out there.
You'd see these Mercedes pull up.......and bautiful women would jump out and score.......and then men with European cut suits in Alfo Romao's.....them sports cars......and they'd tell you how their wives would put the dope in EPIDURALS...........all I used to think is WOW......Woooooo that's crazy.
But then I'd be waiting in line and these kids......I call them kids.....young people with their college book bags on their back.......and they had to rush to get to class.....they'd walked miles and miles to get there cause they needed the car fare towards their dope........and then the homeless.....and they'd be crouched over sick.......so yeah it's I guess in drugs like the rest of the world.
A class thing........only you may wind up on the lower rung cause the dope put ya down there.........peace out y'all.......I'm a decent person though.. I think.
I know my friend Tres she is one of the most decent people I have ever met....I'd trust her with my life........and she'd give a stranger anything they needed.
