3rd visit to the Suboxone Doctor today-- I have been on the Subs since 1/8/2007- Everything is going great ! Im so happy. The only issue im having is sleeping -I really always have...So he gave me Seroquel --He says that it well relax me and help me sleep...ANyone else ever take this stuff ? Im really curious to hear if it has worked for them....
He has got me taking 1 1/2 Subs in the am when i getup--1 Sub before bed and i can take a 1/2 Suboxen anytime during the day if i feel the need...I have been on this new regimen since last saturday and i actually felt better when i was just taking 1/2's more frequently....Whats the consensus on that ? Is that just the addict in me, wanting to take them more frequently or something ? I dont know--Im still right on track so i guess i will just do as directed and hope it works ...
Anyway..Life is better than ever and i still cannot believe that im off the hydros....Im still amazed ! What a waste of 5 years..
I wish i made the committment sooner. Better late than never though !!
I can wait to get some feedback on this...God bless all of you that post me on this and anyone else that needs it ! Smile !
Hello Soberdaddy,
I am happy to hear the suboxone is working for you. I took it and had a great experience with it.
I think you answered you own question about the amount of suboxone "...Is that just the addict in me, wanting to take them more frequently or something... " I was accustomed to taking 20 or more pills a day so I was delighted to take such a small amount a day.
Follow your doctors instructions. "If it aint broke, don't fix it". Don't "self medicate" and don't listen to anybody elses advice on how to take it. Talk to your doctor first before making any changes in your dosages.
We all react differently to suboxone. I slept fine. Give your body and mind time to adjust to it. I didn't take any sleep aids. I knew the pills had messed up my poor brain. I wanted to just get back to normal with out any medicine.
Rember that it took a long time and a lot of pills to get you here. It is going to take some time for you to get back to normal.
Congratulations on 13 days.
Catherine
I am happy to hear the suboxone is working for you. I took it and had a great experience with it.
I think you answered you own question about the amount of suboxone "...Is that just the addict in me, wanting to take them more frequently or something... " I was accustomed to taking 20 or more pills a day so I was delighted to take such a small amount a day.
Follow your doctors instructions. "If it aint broke, don't fix it". Don't "self medicate" and don't listen to anybody elses advice on how to take it. Talk to your doctor first before making any changes in your dosages.
We all react differently to suboxone. I slept fine. Give your body and mind time to adjust to it. I didn't take any sleep aids. I knew the pills had messed up my poor brain. I wanted to just get back to normal with out any medicine.
Rember that it took a long time and a lot of pills to get you here. It is going to take some time for you to get back to normal.
Congratulations on 13 days.
Catherine
Thanks Cat--I really appreciate it ! So how long have you bben on and what was your doc ? Is it a good story ? I would love to hear about it if you feel lik it ?
Thanks gain
c
Thanks gain
c
hey soberdaddy!!!
isnt it great!!!! to be free from the chains that binded us!!!!
i have been on sub since 7/06 and like the other poster said (sorry forgot your name) we are individuals and everyone acts differently. i have been addicted to sleep meds for years and last week i found out that sitting here at the computer has been a new "sleeping pill" for me, i dont know what it is but about a half hour into reading all the threads here i find myself passing out at the desk! so i figured this is stupid for me to take a sleeping pill if i already fell asleep so i have tested myself to see how many nights i can go without anything for sleep and so far its been 5 nights without anything! a few months ago i was having some sleep difficulty so i self medicated myself wiith some seroquel that i had in the medicine cabinent (100 mg tablets) so i took that for about 3 nights, now remember we are individuals, but in my case IT WAS TOO STRONG! i take 8 mg of sub in the mornings only and when i intro duced the seroquel i couldnt stay awake for nothing. i did tell my doctor what i did and he said that 100 mg and sub were way too high. so i stopped and continued with either ambien cr or trazodone for sleep for which doctor had prescribed originally.
i have been reading some posts here about the dangers of ambien cr and my son who is studying psychology in college right now warned me also about the dangers of ambien.... so i have decided to not take that drug again.hopefully after many years of sleep aid dependance i can be free from that, my need for sleep aids started as innocently as this: i took a tylenol pm for night time pain i was having and believe me benadryl was addictive for me! for me it was mood altering!
some people post no problem with sub constipating them and for me it's chronic, another person posted it changed their personality to the negative, i have not experienced that, it has bettered my attitude, who knows though it could change.....
all in all i would definately say that sub has saved my life and taught me a new way to stop obsessing and taking pills all day. congrats soberdaddy! jewels/julie
isnt it great!!!! to be free from the chains that binded us!!!!
i have been on sub since 7/06 and like the other poster said (sorry forgot your name) we are individuals and everyone acts differently. i have been addicted to sleep meds for years and last week i found out that sitting here at the computer has been a new "sleeping pill" for me, i dont know what it is but about a half hour into reading all the threads here i find myself passing out at the desk! so i figured this is stupid for me to take a sleeping pill if i already fell asleep so i have tested myself to see how many nights i can go without anything for sleep and so far its been 5 nights without anything! a few months ago i was having some sleep difficulty so i self medicated myself wiith some seroquel that i had in the medicine cabinent (100 mg tablets) so i took that for about 3 nights, now remember we are individuals, but in my case IT WAS TOO STRONG! i take 8 mg of sub in the mornings only and when i intro duced the seroquel i couldnt stay awake for nothing. i did tell my doctor what i did and he said that 100 mg and sub were way too high. so i stopped and continued with either ambien cr or trazodone for sleep for which doctor had prescribed originally.
i have been reading some posts here about the dangers of ambien cr and my son who is studying psychology in college right now warned me also about the dangers of ambien.... so i have decided to not take that drug again.hopefully after many years of sleep aid dependance i can be free from that, my need for sleep aids started as innocently as this: i took a tylenol pm for night time pain i was having and believe me benadryl was addictive for me! for me it was mood altering!
some people post no problem with sub constipating them and for me it's chronic, another person posted it changed their personality to the negative, i have not experienced that, it has bettered my attitude, who knows though it could change.....
all in all i would definately say that sub has saved my life and taught me a new way to stop obsessing and taking pills all day. congrats soberdaddy! jewels/julie
C,
Everybody takes suboone in different amounts and for different periods of time. We are all different. Suboxone isn't a cure for addiction. Suboxone is a tool.
I was addicted to codeine # 4 for 5 years. I was taking 20 to 30 pills a day. I had a 3 level cervical fusion and got addicted to pills right off the bat. I was under the impression that codeine wasn't as strong as some of the other stuff and I was safe. I now know that codeine is highly addictive and no pill is safe.
I was caught doctor shopping. Even getting caught didn't stop me. I started making phone calls to hot lines to ask how I could continue taking pills. I was in crisis and thank god the people who answer the hot lines knew it and aimed me toward people that could help me.
Long story short, a drug counselor told me about suboxone and recommened that I see an addiction specialist. What I read about suboxone I really liked. It was developed in the 1970's and was tested for 30 years before it was approved by the FDA in 2002. I wasn't about to be a ginny pig. I appreciated the 30 years of testing.
I could never get past the WD's. I would be so sick for days. I had destroyed my health from the years of pill's. I suffer from cronic pain. I was a mess.
I took suboxone for 22 days. I tapered for 19 of those 22 days. I never had a problem. My experience was wonderful. To get my health back I had to stop taking any kind of pills. I didn't know if I could remain pill free for long. Because of my pain and because I am an addict. My doctor told me if I relapsed to contact him and I would start taking the suboxone again. That gave me the courage to take it one day at a time without the suboxone.
I have been pill free 7 months (on the 28th). I have spent this time trying to understand my addiction and how I got here. I now know I have a disease that will never go away.
I am so happy today.
Catherine
ps: I didn't mean for this to get so long
Everybody takes suboone in different amounts and for different periods of time. We are all different. Suboxone isn't a cure for addiction. Suboxone is a tool.
I was addicted to codeine # 4 for 5 years. I was taking 20 to 30 pills a day. I had a 3 level cervical fusion and got addicted to pills right off the bat. I was under the impression that codeine wasn't as strong as some of the other stuff and I was safe. I now know that codeine is highly addictive and no pill is safe.
I was caught doctor shopping. Even getting caught didn't stop me. I started making phone calls to hot lines to ask how I could continue taking pills. I was in crisis and thank god the people who answer the hot lines knew it and aimed me toward people that could help me.
Long story short, a drug counselor told me about suboxone and recommened that I see an addiction specialist. What I read about suboxone I really liked. It was developed in the 1970's and was tested for 30 years before it was approved by the FDA in 2002. I wasn't about to be a ginny pig. I appreciated the 30 years of testing.
I could never get past the WD's. I would be so sick for days. I had destroyed my health from the years of pill's. I suffer from cronic pain. I was a mess.
I took suboxone for 22 days. I tapered for 19 of those 22 days. I never had a problem. My experience was wonderful. To get my health back I had to stop taking any kind of pills. I didn't know if I could remain pill free for long. Because of my pain and because I am an addict. My doctor told me if I relapsed to contact him and I would start taking the suboxone again. That gave me the courage to take it one day at a time without the suboxone.
I have been pill free 7 months (on the 28th). I have spent this time trying to understand my addiction and how I got here. I now know I have a disease that will never go away.
I am so happy today.
Catherine
ps: I didn't mean for this to get so long
that is wonderful news catherine!
in retrospect i wish that i had stayed on sub short term like you and others did, here it is 6 mos later and i know that i have used sub as a tool and a crutch....
my counselor would respond when i would address my concerns as: you need to use sub as a tool to help you get strong enough to work a program, get a sponsor etc. so that justified my concern for being on it this long.. i wish i could take it for the rest of my life as it has totally changed my attitude and behavior for the better. i used to sleep my days away and since starting sub i immediately started getting up at the crack of dawn and couldn't wait to start my day! i no longer feel dark about living. this is so out of charactor for me. but good!
but since you posted that you could always go back to sub if need be... than i guess i could keep that mind set when i start the taper. jewels/julie
in retrospect i wish that i had stayed on sub short term like you and others did, here it is 6 mos later and i know that i have used sub as a tool and a crutch....
my counselor would respond when i would address my concerns as: you need to use sub as a tool to help you get strong enough to work a program, get a sponsor etc. so that justified my concern for being on it this long.. i wish i could take it for the rest of my life as it has totally changed my attitude and behavior for the better. i used to sleep my days away and since starting sub i immediately started getting up at the crack of dawn and couldn't wait to start my day! i no longer feel dark about living. this is so out of charactor for me. but good!
but since you posted that you could always go back to sub if need be... than i guess i could keep that mind set when i start the taper. jewels/julie
Jewlsander, (and anybody else that is taking suboxone)
Don't kick yourself for the amount of time you are taking suboxone. We are all different. Call it a crutch or a tool it saves peoples lives.
When I started taking suboxone I was so relieved to not have to think about pills. I didn't have cravings, I wasn't spending all my time and money getting pills. I got a taste of life without pills and I didn't want to return to the madness.
I have met people who have chosen to take suboxone for the rest of their lives. Drugs almost destroyed them and taking suboxone has enabled them to return to work and their familys. I have met people who have taken it for days, weeks or months and then stopped completely. I have met people who relapsed and are taking it again. There isn't a time limit.
Do you want to be in Jail or dead or would you rather be under doctors care, getting medication that keeps you from using drugs and the lifestyle it brings?
Stopping suboxone is an individual choice. We all live different lives and we all make choices that are right for us.
You will know when it's time to stop taking suboxone. Always remember, if you relapse you can take it again. Talk to your doctor about it. It has brought be comfort knowing that if/when I relapse I can call my doctor and start taking it again. I will not put myself through another 5 years of hell.
Catherine
Don't kick yourself for the amount of time you are taking suboxone. We are all different. Call it a crutch or a tool it saves peoples lives.
When I started taking suboxone I was so relieved to not have to think about pills. I didn't have cravings, I wasn't spending all my time and money getting pills. I got a taste of life without pills and I didn't want to return to the madness.
I have met people who have chosen to take suboxone for the rest of their lives. Drugs almost destroyed them and taking suboxone has enabled them to return to work and their familys. I have met people who have taken it for days, weeks or months and then stopped completely. I have met people who relapsed and are taking it again. There isn't a time limit.
Do you want to be in Jail or dead or would you rather be under doctors care, getting medication that keeps you from using drugs and the lifestyle it brings?
Stopping suboxone is an individual choice. We all live different lives and we all make choices that are right for us.
You will know when it's time to stop taking suboxone. Always remember, if you relapse you can take it again. Talk to your doctor about it. It has brought be comfort knowing that if/when I relapse I can call my doctor and start taking it again. I will not put myself through another 5 years of hell.
Catherine
Soberdaddy,
I also take sub, i start out at 2mg in the morning, then throughout the day i'll take 2 more doses of 2mg and 2mg.
This i have found is a lot better than taking one big dose in the daytime. I took an 8mg at once when i started cause that's what the doctor said to do and i didn't feel so good.
I'm glad you found a regimen that works for you and i wish you all the best! Sub has changed my life for the better. I have never been so clear headed in years.
It's a nice feeling to feel normal and not be dope sick. I don't miss it at all.;)
Love
stac
I also take sub, i start out at 2mg in the morning, then throughout the day i'll take 2 more doses of 2mg and 2mg.
This i have found is a lot better than taking one big dose in the daytime. I took an 8mg at once when i started cause that's what the doctor said to do and i didn't feel so good.
I'm glad you found a regimen that works for you and i wish you all the best! Sub has changed my life for the better. I have never been so clear headed in years.
It's a nice feeling to feel normal and not be dope sick. I don't miss it at all.;)
Love
stac
thank you catherine
that makes me feel much better....
like the therapist tells me, addicts love to sabotage good things and feelings! live one day at a time.. just for today... keep it simple.... jails, institutions and death.... one is too many and a thousand is never enough. no slips, no dips no weekend trips!!! quoted from Na.
lets see.... oh! alcohol is a drug....period! principles before personalities!
we release our addiction all over again....
i met a girl in rehab who only attended AA meetings, she happened to walk past one of the Na meetings i was attending in the cafeteria..... she couldnt believe all the slogans we were saying... she said it reminded her of lions and tigers and bears oh my! jewels
that makes me feel much better....
like the therapist tells me, addicts love to sabotage good things and feelings! live one day at a time.. just for today... keep it simple.... jails, institutions and death.... one is too many and a thousand is never enough. no slips, no dips no weekend trips!!! quoted from Na.
lets see.... oh! alcohol is a drug....period! principles before personalities!
we release our addiction all over again....
i met a girl in rehab who only attended AA meetings, she happened to walk past one of the Na meetings i was attending in the cafeteria..... she couldnt believe all the slogans we were saying... she said it reminded her of lions and tigers and bears oh my! jewels
hey stacey
you and i were posting at the same time,
i take 8 mg all at once in the morning and it took forever for my body to get use to it, i think i should of done the regimen you are on. man 8 mg is strong!! i cant imagine going any higher, but like she said, we are all individuals with different side effects, i so wish it didnt constipate me, you are sooo lucky in that respect. food tastes nasty! but i am beginning to wonder if i am not experiencing some toxic effects from not having a bm! duh julie the body has to eliminate and if it doesn't....
i am doing a colon cleansing regimen that i started yesterday, it takes 15 days to complete, its got all these herbs etc to get things going plus i started adding flax seed to my diet, yuk! i dont know if i like the flaxseed taste or if its this problem i am experiencing with things not tasting right,
i went to this website about colon cleansing etc and it said we all have toxins that build up on our intestines from like fast food, air pollution, even perfume!!!! the pictures of what people excreted from a colon cleansing were so nasty! parasites and worms too from some people! do you guys believe it.?... google colon cleansing and tell me what you think, the kit i bought said to do a cleansing with every season change!!!! jewels/julie
you and i were posting at the same time,
i take 8 mg all at once in the morning and it took forever for my body to get use to it, i think i should of done the regimen you are on. man 8 mg is strong!! i cant imagine going any higher, but like she said, we are all individuals with different side effects, i so wish it didnt constipate me, you are sooo lucky in that respect. food tastes nasty! but i am beginning to wonder if i am not experiencing some toxic effects from not having a bm! duh julie the body has to eliminate and if it doesn't....
i am doing a colon cleansing regimen that i started yesterday, it takes 15 days to complete, its got all these herbs etc to get things going plus i started adding flax seed to my diet, yuk! i dont know if i like the flaxseed taste or if its this problem i am experiencing with things not tasting right,
i went to this website about colon cleansing etc and it said we all have toxins that build up on our intestines from like fast food, air pollution, even perfume!!!! the pictures of what people excreted from a colon cleansing were so nasty! parasites and worms too from some people! do you guys believe it.?... google colon cleansing and tell me what you think, the kit i bought said to do a cleansing with every season change!!!! jewels/julie
Soberdaddy,Im only here for but a minute as I want to clean up my dinner mess but I want you to know how happy I am that things are feeling better for you.Isnt Sub an amazing thing!???
Ill be on in the morning & would love to talk with you.
I just wanted you to know how proud I am of you & how glad I am that you are taking control of your life!!!!
GOOS FOR YOU!!!!!
molly
Ill be on in the morning & would love to talk with you.
I just wanted you to know how proud I am of you & how glad I am that you are taking control of your life!!!!
GOOS FOR YOU!!!!!
molly
I take serequel. It works. Do your homework. Talk to your doctor about keeping your dose as low as possible. Some major side effects can develop.
Do your homework. 25 mg is a very low dose. Thats great if it works for you.
Good luck
Jeff
Do your homework. 25 mg is a very low dose. Thats great if it works for you.
Good luck
Jeff
I took seroquel for one night,i ddint like it.Something about the fact its an antisyicotic(sp) turned me off.Though,all medications are used for dual/multiple purposes these days.I just dont like taking pills,never have.CAn you believe that,coming from a woman who was taking 20-25 norcos a day?!?!!? Its true,i hate pillls,never would take tylenol even.
I now am on sub,though i want off,its helped me alot,and it literally saved my sons life.The first of Feb will be 6 months on sub for me,though ive been taking small doses right from the start,im afraid of coming off it.But i feel 6 months has been long enough,its time to start living my life without having to take a pill everyday(JMO).Im taking approx 2 mg a day now,1mg in the morning....and 1mg around noon.And soon i hope to lower that too.Wish me luck!
Soberdaddy,im so happy reading your posts,seeing how excited you are to get your life back,sub truly does help us regain our lives,no doubt about it!Congrats on how far youve come~KIM
I now am on sub,though i want off,its helped me alot,and it literally saved my sons life.The first of Feb will be 6 months on sub for me,though ive been taking small doses right from the start,im afraid of coming off it.But i feel 6 months has been long enough,its time to start living my life without having to take a pill everyday(JMO).Im taking approx 2 mg a day now,1mg in the morning....and 1mg around noon.And soon i hope to lower that too.Wish me luck!
Soberdaddy,im so happy reading your posts,seeing how excited you are to get your life back,sub truly does help us regain our lives,no doubt about it!Congrats on how far youve come~KIM
