just found out today my brother is on heroin, hes smoking it and not injecting it so kinda bit relieved,(sounds stupid) he dabbled 4 yrs ago but has been clean all this time, he recently split up with his gf so he was pretty gutted but hey no excuses for doing what hes doing, he works full time and doesnt go out and steal, he has addmitted it to me today that hes on it and that he wants to get off it but i dont know whether i believe him or whether hes just telling me as much as i need to know, he says hes doing between half a bag to a fulll bag aday, i know its not alot as i know of people speding 100 pound a day on it,but to me thats more than enough, he has asked me to help him, but that he dont want our parents knowing, im right in the middle of it, he says he wants to be clean and get on with his life as he wants to go canada to see mates but all i feel is hes lying to save his own neck, do i tell my mum and dad? or do i try and help him as much as i can, he has told me hes on subbies but then he says he does smoke the gear too, im not to up to date with heroin as im in a drug free family with my kids and partner so any help is greatly appreciated.
Hey Shell,
Sorry nobody is on toinight. Good that Dale had a chat with you though.
Don't feel odd that you're not up on the drug scene. You came to a good place and I think getting the perspective of people on Families/Loved ones will help also.
Personally and this is me I would definately tell. He'll need all the help he can get. He's been through this before so he knows the drill. Telling the rest of your family will make him a little more accountable. The more he hides it and the more people it's hidden from it will be easier for him to continue to use.
You're a good sister. He's fortunate. No doubt he wants help, but what's the plan? In my experience, and I am an addict if I told you I was doing ONE bag then I was doing three. We lie. Lie, lie. You also would feel awful if something happened to him, and then everyone knew you knew.
Not sure if that makes sense. Pretty much I say tell them. We all said at one time we were not robbing or stealing. We had money. Before he gets in over his head I'd tell. Times going to come he can't get it, and he'll miss work. Then he'll be short on money. Miss work. It never works out. I wish you the best Shell.
You're a dear sister.
Sorry nobody is on toinight. Good that Dale had a chat with you though.
Don't feel odd that you're not up on the drug scene. You came to a good place and I think getting the perspective of people on Families/Loved ones will help also.
Personally and this is me I would definately tell. He'll need all the help he can get. He's been through this before so he knows the drill. Telling the rest of your family will make him a little more accountable. The more he hides it and the more people it's hidden from it will be easier for him to continue to use.
You're a good sister. He's fortunate. No doubt he wants help, but what's the plan? In my experience, and I am an addict if I told you I was doing ONE bag then I was doing three. We lie. Lie, lie. You also would feel awful if something happened to him, and then everyone knew you knew.
Not sure if that makes sense. Pretty much I say tell them. We all said at one time we were not robbing or stealing. We had money. Before he gets in over his head I'd tell. Times going to come he can't get it, and he'll miss work. Then he'll be short on money. Miss work. It never works out. I wish you the best Shell.
You're a dear sister.
Dear Shell,
Welcome to the board! You might want to post on the Families Forum as well.
I'm sorry to hear about your brother. My son was clean for a little over 1 1/2 years and recently relapsed. From what I've been told, you can't go on suboxone unless you haven't used for about 18 hours (maybe more) and are detoxing or it will make you go into rapid detox which is pretty horrible. Correct me if I'm wrong people.
The only way you can help him is to pray for him. Don't cover for him. Don't give him any money because unless you can see from his actions that he's clean, you could be helping him use. They are very shrewd at telling us what we want to hear to get what they want.
I'll keep you and your brother in my prayers. Keep coming back. There are a lot of very nice and helpful people here and on the Families Forum.
God bless!
Susan
Welcome to the board! You might want to post on the Families Forum as well.
I'm sorry to hear about your brother. My son was clean for a little over 1 1/2 years and recently relapsed. From what I've been told, you can't go on suboxone unless you haven't used for about 18 hours (maybe more) and are detoxing or it will make you go into rapid detox which is pretty horrible. Correct me if I'm wrong people.
The only way you can help him is to pray for him. Don't cover for him. Don't give him any money because unless you can see from his actions that he's clean, you could be helping him use. They are very shrewd at telling us what we want to hear to get what they want.
I'll keep you and your brother in my prayers. Keep coming back. There are a lot of very nice and helpful people here and on the Families Forum.
God bless!
Susan
thanks for ur kind words and just taking the time out to give me advice, i think i will tell my parents but how im gonna tell them is the part im dreading,how do i tell them that there son is a drug addict AGAIN, then again he could of been on this all that time in 4 years and just covered it well, u said all u do is lie lie lie, i hate being in this situation as what ever i do i break some ones loyalty, i feel like i wanna scream, i have been kinda waiting for this day in 4 yrs now its come im more prepared, but a part of me wants to wash my hands of him and tell him not to bother contacting me, but i cant just walk away, hes only 22 and has so much more to him than heroin abuse.
He also said he has control on his habit, lies lies and more bloody lies, as much as im not in with the drug scene im not nieve, i was street wise once, i dabbled in drugs at 15 and got away from it as i knew it would mess my life up, so im not stupid.
He told me that hes glad i know as i helped him through it last time, but i have kids and family i cant commit to him 100% i can do my best but i cant watch over him 24/7.
Im glad ive got this forum as my partner just keeps saying tell mum and dad what hes doing or i will, i dont wanna hear ultimatus, i will do what i need to do, but wont be told like that, he dont know nothing about drugs as hes squeeky clean and basically thinks im a mug for wanting to help him, i do know hes right tho but guess i cant get my head round the fact that hes a smack head, its goes beyond all my morals and hate lying to covering for anyone.
any help or simple words will help me at the minute as im completly stuck, thanks for this all xxx
He also said he has control on his habit, lies lies and more bloody lies, as much as im not in with the drug scene im not nieve, i was street wise once, i dabbled in drugs at 15 and got away from it as i knew it would mess my life up, so im not stupid.
He told me that hes glad i know as i helped him through it last time, but i have kids and family i cant commit to him 100% i can do my best but i cant watch over him 24/7.
Im glad ive got this forum as my partner just keeps saying tell mum and dad what hes doing or i will, i dont wanna hear ultimatus, i will do what i need to do, but wont be told like that, he dont know nothing about drugs as hes squeeky clean and basically thinks im a mug for wanting to help him, i do know hes right tho but guess i cant get my head round the fact that hes a smack head, its goes beyond all my morals and hate lying to covering for anyone.
any help or simple words will help me at the minute as im completly stuck, thanks for this all xxx
hi shell its dale are you out there
hi dale yes im here, just been and seen my bro hes not on it today, well so far he looks pretty normal pupils are not pinned and he seems ok, not had much chance to talk to him much but im going back in a bit, he did seem normal was eating had been up since 8 this morning for his driving lesson. lets see how today will go first. i was awake most of the night worrying but i finally got some sleep. how are u this morning?
hi shell,sory i didnt respond 2 you this morning as i had 2 go out,hows your bro today?
hi dale, bro seemed to be doing ok, was with him till about 530 and he hadnt done any gear, i asked a few questions about the subtec, he said he cuts them into quarters and he said that holds him, he has done 15 odd hours clean, he admitted that he has a problem, whereas yesterday he said he had control, he was quite upset as i made my mum put on a video of all us kids when we were young and he told me it choked him, we are a very close family and lately he didnt seem to be part of it, today was the first day when it felt normal.
i asked him what he did with the rest of the gear he had from sat he said he finished it last night. and hes not scored today, so good sign for now.
hows u?
i asked him what he did with the rest of the gear he had from sat he said he finished it last night. and hes not scored today, so good sign for now.
hows u?
I really hope he is off it. All you can do is be there for him.
I've got to let my girlfriend use the computer for a bit, but will log on later.
Dale
I've got to let my girlfriend use the computer for a bit, but will log on later.
Dale
hi shell,are you out there?its dale hows your bro?
