What Happened To The Post About The Hate Crime?

Eric,

BTW...Your avitar makes my eyes water...lolol..im not kidding...
youd think the guy on the right would think to start putting his hand up sideways and block that next poke...lololol

Hugs'

Ali
Hey whats happened to your avatars and signatured Ali ?????????
Poof...disappeared into cyberspace along with my words..lolol

Im a faceless, nameless, wordless poster...killing a Saturday night talking to you...lolol


Hugs

Ali
LOL.... Whats been going on lately ?????
I will tell you what happened.. Everyone was giving their opinion on the black and white issue, mixed children and gay lifestyles etc.. Vinny comes in and says he doesn't believe in living a gay lifestyle.. He was NOT talking about April, just giving his thoughts. April jumps in like always taking offense to something blowing it way out of proportion.. Then it got a little heated..No big deal. Now I don't know what Vinny said towards the end of the post that got removed but all I know is April didn't see it.. Well I didn't see a post that was written to about me not that long ago, cause the mod's removed it. A little birdy told me about it..Is it fair that sharon isn't banned?? She said on March 10th"She's just a cruel joke Lisa, like a sad clown with so much built up anger. I pity you Rae.Thanks Lisa, but she just is not worth you getting into trouble. I should avoid such ignorance, but right now its hard too.

Now she is calling me igorant and angry...LOL I could have been real upset about that and started a thread and brought it to everyone's attention..However, I have to take into consideration the person that said it about me.. That is laughable coming from her of all people. So I didn't say anything about it until now.. you know WHY april cause I don't give a sh*t what Sharon thinks about me. I am bringing it up now ONLY as an example to you..Why do you care so much what Vinny thinks about your lifestyle?? How many threads are you going to post about this in?? He was just giving his opinion and it was NOT directed at you..until you started going on and on and on about it, just like you always do..Did you think you were going to change his views on gay people?? Come on!!

Nobody cares if your gay.. If your gay be proud of it. Who cares..you sound so insecure..Do you know how many people in the world that do not believe it is acceptable to live a gay lifestyle or get married if your gay?? Millions !!

I don't care for you not because your gay but because you came to the board the other day saying " You had to douche before your ob-gyn appt. I thought that was nasty. I don't like how you put your perosnal relationship on the board with your girlfriend Melody going on and on about it. That stuff is personal. Or how you thought you had an std and all that crap but hadn't had sex with a man ever. That is gross and is cause for a bann all in itself. Just my opinion..



Respectfully, Bozo the clown
ditto what Rae said.

Can't have a difference of opinions here without someone taking a personal affront.
Rae sweet girl I didnt read that whole post I know I added my thoughts at one point,so I cant say much but I can say what Ive said over & over & over
We are all intitled to our own thoughts & feelings,BUT I feel we ALL MUST respect each other whether we agree or not.Ive seen so much lack of respect at times on here.
We all are part of this recovery family & just like any family I guess there will be crappy times.
mj
RAE WHAT AM I CHOP LIVER? Evreyone?

What the puck happened. Go from a legit society issue to??

LMFAO

I find it hard to believe Vinny called April a dyke. Vinny at least what I read made a statement about adam and Eve not Steve? Implying?

That is not so bad kinda funny. Its a joke. I guess it got heated.

The secret is to sleep normal hours. I miss reading all this garbage. Maybe I can get TIVO for the forum board?

April If you were called a Dyke that is wrong. But does it still bother you? You know its just ignorance or anger. And YES April I have experienced racism and its Ugly.

Just do not see vinny as a racist. Something you said had to push him. Not making it right he will be banned I imagine.

I wish they woukld not censor the board. How can we learn if we do not get the chance to read the posts.

Censorship is assanine we are adults. Not our call

Jef
jeff,

i agree, and vinny was wrongly singled out in my opinion, i think it was all just taken out of context and if she was name called vinny was pushed. i did not see the post in question myself either. poor vinny can net get a break around here. he truely is a great guy that means well brings lots of smiles to the board and is loved by many, i mean his silly posts gets more hits then any i have seen lol but i dont think he will cry if he is banned, he works long hours anyway. but still i sure do hope he is allowed to come around. i know if in fact he did say something derogatory, he would be the first to apologise and be the bigger person, even if he was wrongly provoked and singled out. that much i did witness.

terrianne
Yes, Jeff, you are in fact chopped liver! Just kidding! LOL

I can't really comment on family drama on the board. My family drama went center stage on this forum a few weeks ago with blinking marquee lights. It was humiliating for me and certainly not something I wanted to happen. I just had no power over it! But it did happen and made me the wrong person to comment on public family drama, so I will keep my mouth shut on that one.

I dont think people should be called names for any reason though and if that happened, it was wrong.


Terrianne If its funny I remember it. And he posted its Adam and Eve not Steve.

That is FUNNY--to me anyway.

And like Vinny Unless I read him wrong I strongly believe that Marriage is sacred and its like the last thing you can teach your kids these days.

Example N.Y C school system Kindergarden I think they are educating the kids in HIV/AIDS?

Maybe its first grade. I have a first grader. I would be appalled if they tried to pull that $hit here.

Anyway what is sad is a topic was brought up and it ends up in POOF why not lock it so we can read and understand.????

Also Vinny is a joker so he will tend to be misunderstood. How do we know what transpired. Can someone post the whole thing?

If No fugetaboutit cause Life goes on.

Enjoy your day terrianne

Jeff
jeff,

i am not gonna repost it, cause mods deleted it, i dont think they would appreciate me rehashing it. we should let sleeping dogs lie. most of us know vinny and his heart. i agree he can be misunderstood at times, but by very few people and even those few in my experience have maturely told him in a respectful manner how they felt about his humor and vinny has always apologised. vinny just isnt a fighter you and i both know that. but oh well, what can you do, you know how woman play lol even though i am a woman, i feel for you men, i myself could never live with another woman lol. i have worked with my share and that was about all i could stand in my lifetime, not to mention growing up with 2 sisters and a mom from hell. i am still nursing the battle wounds lol

terrianne
Good afternoon my fellow posters...

Darn, (LOL) I am so sorry that I missed every bit of what happened last night...NOT!

It is sad that a very serious topic that lost love posted about, requesting PRAYERS for a BRUTALLY MURDERED young boy and his family, turned into (whatever it turned into, I missed it.) I think it is disrespectful, at best, and perhaps should have been moved to another thread.

I do believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, of course. But some opinions, such as the ones that are hurtful to others, should not be posted.

Yes, there are millions of people who do not believe in living a gay lifestyle, or that gays should be allowed to marry, or that they will be accepted into heaven, etc.

There are millions of people who believe that couples of mixed race should not have children.

There are millions of people who hate people for being black, white, middle-eastern, asian, hispanic, etc.

Millions of people hate others for their religious preference.

There are people out there who do not like overweight people.

There are rich people who make fun of poor people and think they are lazy.

There are people who abuse animals for fun.

I could go on and on.

For the record, I am none of those people.

The bottom line is, it is offensive to most people when someone feels the need to talk about discriminating subjects, such as these. Such thoughts are best discussed among people who share those particular beliefs. Otherwise, inevitable controversy will ensue. So, yes to each his/her own...believe what you choose to believe...and have the opinion you choose to have. Nobody can control what anyone else thinks or believes.

But, unless someone wants to start controversy, and hurt feelings, then these types of opinions are best left off of a forum like this one. It has nothing to do with addiction recovery. We have such a diverse group of posters here, and someone is bound to take offense or be hurt by someone else's words.

JMO...but I could care less how people choose to live their lives. As long as it does not hurt me or anyone else...go for it. I might not agree, but I certainly would never post my opinion if there was even the slightest chance that someone would have hurt feelings. That is tacky and uncouth.

If all the world could learn to treat one another with love and kindness, and be more tolerant of others' beliefs, then the world would be a better place.

BTW, if you personally believe that what someone thinks or does is wrong, pray for them...don't post about them. (Unless of course, you don't believe in prayer.)

Love to all my friends in recovery,

Atlas


Great Post Atlas...........Very well said. I also missed all of the crazyness lastnight.........Oh well.

Enjoying your weekend?
atlas,

i did ask that the controversy be moved to another thread, it fell on deaf ears. there were no disrespectful comments made untill provoked. someone was low on drama last night unfortunately. i do agree it was disrespectful.

terrianne
Personal attacks aren't fun, are they? In fact they suck. Stick to the subject at hand instead of going after someone just because they may think differently than you and then threads wouldn't go "poof". If you have an opinion, that's one thing, but to make it personal and try to hurt someone with cruel words, that's another. It's addictive behavoir and it sucks.

Just curious, why copy threads that are conterversial? If the mods delete them, it's probably a good indication that they need to be forgotten about and not sent all over cyberspace. Just creates more bad feelings. Just my opinion.
EVERYONE,

I will never post any thread that deals with controversial issues again. I now can see how hurtful some of the board members can be. I was so hurt by what had happened down the road from me and thought I would get some support or be able to get some feelings off my chest.

Also, I think everyone can I agree that I try to stay out of all this drama. But, I am sticking up for April here. There were some very hurtful things said to her. And Vinny most defenitly called her a dyke. I saw with my own two eyes as wells some other board members.

So why dont we all just drop the subject for now. I think enough people got there feelings hurt.

Lost..please, keep posting whatever it is that you need support for.

There's always going to be drama...it's a given. But you need to get the support and hope that helps you..

Cowgirl
Lost-

I agree that the thread became ot of control, and I am so sorry, I do feel like it was disrespectful.

But, Please dont blame all on the board for the actions of one or two that do not mind there manners. Thats just not fair....Most of us know how to handle ourselves like adults.

I am sorry your thread turned into that, I really am. But, that was not the entire boards fault.

I hope you are well.
I am just very upset!!!!

I am not threating to leave or not post, I am just hurt.

I like Vinny and I like Vinny's sense of humor (most of the time). If he believes in something and has his opinon on something, that is fine. But when it could hurt someone on here, it is better left unsaid.

He was very rude last night. He said gays are sinners and insinuated that they will go to hell. Then procedeed to call April a dyke. I came to everyone here for kindness and support and instead it just prepetuated into some gay bashing.

Vinny is just entitled to his opinon as everyone else, but if it is going to hurt someone, keep it off the board.

April has a right to be hurt. Regardless of how comfortable she is with her sexuality, it hurts to think that you come to some place for support and only end up getting hurt because someone couldnt keep there mouths closed.

I know there are many people here with many different opions. Why dont we concentrate on supporting and not hurting.

Thank you for your concern CG. I just feel sick.

Lost-Love