Greg,
Yes in my opinion oxy's are harder to deox from than vicodin. They are stronger that is why. As for the vitamins. I would go to the GNC store and get a good multi-vitamin, while your there get some B-12 sublingual tablets. They dissolve under your tongue and help a little with energy. You may want to talk to the GNC employee and ask them if there is something you could buy for restless legs. I know banana's and pottassium pills work well.
Good luck. If it gets to painful I would just quit the vic's and taper off the oxy's. At least try and get down to a lower daily dose before stopping. You shouldn't have a problem with the taper if your wife is willing to help you. Best of luck~ Rae If you'd like to e-mail me at Bunny4804@aol.com I would be happy to talk to you anytime.
If Immodium AD doesn't help with the runs lomotil is good stuff too...
Thanks Rae,
I thought about weening and decided to just co cold turkey. It would be like having just one drink. I would just as soon remember the agony. It will just add to the many reasons not to resume this game I play with myself. I just want to be the person I really am and not some medicated monster that goes off at the slightest instance.
I have been of the Oxys now 36 hours and the Vicodins for 26 hours. I can definatly feel the w/d's kicking in. I took the Comtrex daytime and some vitamans with some Motrin. I have an old script of .25 of Zanex that I NEVER take but feel that now I can justify it once in the evenings for the next three evenings.
I think about the fact that I could of done the more expensive route and went to the Dr. and got Subutex and another drug to aviod the widthdrawls but its would of been Monday before that happened and cost me 4K + 500 a month for the meds. I feel that for me It would just be a substitute for another.
I need to learn my lesson and just suffer. I know that the worst is yet to come.
But it will all be oh so worth it!
I want to say that it is because of this forum that I have been able to make some of the most important decisions of my life. I know that I can make it.
Thank You!
I thought about weening and decided to just co cold turkey. It would be like having just one drink. I would just as soon remember the agony. It will just add to the many reasons not to resume this game I play with myself. I just want to be the person I really am and not some medicated monster that goes off at the slightest instance.
I have been of the Oxys now 36 hours and the Vicodins for 26 hours. I can definatly feel the w/d's kicking in. I took the Comtrex daytime and some vitamans with some Motrin. I have an old script of .25 of Zanex that I NEVER take but feel that now I can justify it once in the evenings for the next three evenings.
I think about the fact that I could of done the more expensive route and went to the Dr. and got Subutex and another drug to aviod the widthdrawls but its would of been Monday before that happened and cost me 4K + 500 a month for the meds. I feel that for me It would just be a substitute for another.
I need to learn my lesson and just suffer. I know that the worst is yet to come.
But it will all be oh so worth it!
I want to say that it is because of this forum that I have been able to make some of the most important decisions of my life. I know that I can make it.
Thank You!
I absolutely recommend you make your Dr aware of your addiction and allow him to treat you, as you see fit. It is your addiction. You have the right to have some control over your recovery. When I confronted him/her with it I would have a plan of action in mind for getting clean. Then you can negotiate. Plus he knows you have given it thought and has an idea of where you are and what will/will not work for you.
I dont want to scare you but with the amount you are taking, you should be. You HAVE to get this under control... and fast!
Good luck and let me know if I can help.
I dont want to scare you but with the amount you are taking, you should be. You HAVE to get this under control... and fast!
Good luck and let me know if I can help.
I can still go to the Dr. at assistedrecovery and pay the referral fee on Monday.
It is a years program with a Physcologist and if on the sub and bene I know I wouldnt be close to the thought of a drink.
But its 4k from this "specialist". I can afford it.
I have not let my regular physican, who just left town after 10 years ever know as my insurance is sky high already. I got my meds on the internet from a DR. who I sent my chiropractor records to.
Would you go to the specialist and do the sub route???
Or just suffer this thing out?
Thanks!
It is a years program with a Physcologist and if on the sub and bene I know I wouldnt be close to the thought of a drink.
But its 4k from this "specialist". I can afford it.
I have not let my regular physican, who just left town after 10 years ever know as my insurance is sky high already. I got my meds on the internet from a DR. who I sent my chiropractor records to.
Would you go to the specialist and do the sub route???
Or just suffer this thing out?
Thanks!
I stayed in bed most of the day and rested . Took my children to the zoo.
One thing of interest I have noticed that my senses that were dulled by the painkillers are rebounding. I could smell things that I hadnt noticed in a long time... the aroma of the flowers was suprising.
Fitful nite of sleep but took two .25 zanex which helped loads but after this is over I will cease taking anything at nite period!
Entering day two, still sweaty and chills but not as bad as I thought. The Otc counter stuff helped LOTS.
I will make it through today. I just want to spend my life free of controling substances!
Thank You!!!
One thing of interest I have noticed that my senses that were dulled by the painkillers are rebounding. I could smell things that I hadnt noticed in a long time... the aroma of the flowers was suprising.
Fitful nite of sleep but took two .25 zanex which helped loads but after this is over I will cease taking anything at nite period!
Entering day two, still sweaty and chills but not as bad as I thought. The Otc counter stuff helped LOTS.
I will make it through today. I just want to spend my life free of controling substances!
Thank You!!!
Greg you sound so strong & determined.I think you trying not to use anything for sleep is a good idea,but I dont know much about xanixs.I do know you shouldnt just BANG stop them though.
Also please if you do deside to try the sub route going to a qualified Dr is THE ONLY way to do it.Please know that the sub 2 isnt a magic cure it will take work even with that,but as I said you sound very determined & positive that will always be helpful to you...mj
Also please if you do deside to try the sub route going to a qualified Dr is THE ONLY way to do it.Please know that the sub 2 isnt a magic cure it will take work even with that,but as I said you sound very determined & positive that will always be helpful to you...mj
It is Sunday afternoon, day 2 and I am doing OK.
Better actually than I imangined but still no fun. The payoff is knowing that soon I will feel somewhat better!
Today I have sweaty palms, chills and such and this tired run down feeling. Every couple of hours I lay down and rest.
The Comtrex is working wonders. However my mind in this fog. But I had the fog when I was using.... And my behaviour had become so erratic!
Thank God I told my wife. She has been so supportive. I didnt think she would be....
But I didnt think that I would just do this thing cold turkey on a moments notice.
I just got sick and tired of me not being me...
I am doing this as a gift to myself and family as I turn 50 in a couple of week. What a gift...
Clean! What a way to live and function!:)
Sorry, just rambling but thanks for being here!!!
Better actually than I imangined but still no fun. The payoff is knowing that soon I will feel somewhat better!
Today I have sweaty palms, chills and such and this tired run down feeling. Every couple of hours I lay down and rest.
The Comtrex is working wonders. However my mind in this fog. But I had the fog when I was using.... And my behaviour had become so erratic!
Thank God I told my wife. She has been so supportive. I didnt think she would be....
But I didnt think that I would just do this thing cold turkey on a moments notice.
I just got sick and tired of me not being me...
I am doing this as a gift to myself and family as I turn 50 in a couple of week. What a gift...
Clean! What a way to live and function!:)
Sorry, just rambling but thanks for being here!!!
Congrats on day # 2... So the comtrex did help huh? I swear by that stuff it really helped me through my methadone withdrawl and the vicodin withdrawl. Without it I would have been hurting pretty bad!
Are you taking lomotil or Immodium? That is one thing I hated was spending the day in the bathroom...
Keep us posted. How did you sleep last night? Has the restless legs kicked in yet? Those are the worst symptom by far, I think. Well besides the lack of energy. You are one strong man going to the zoo:-)
Take care and about the sub. If you feel you need it tomorrow then call around but only you can make that choice. Rae
Are you taking lomotil or Immodium? That is one thing I hated was spending the day in the bathroom...
Keep us posted. How did you sleep last night? Has the restless legs kicked in yet? Those are the worst symptom by far, I think. Well besides the lack of energy. You are one strong man going to the zoo:-)
Take care and about the sub. If you feel you need it tomorrow then call around but only you can make that choice. Rae
Thanks Rae!
Now on day #3. 72 hours without the Oxys and 63 hours without the Vics.
The comtrex is working wonders and the immodium is just as good. I felt pretty bad yesterday with ZERO energy, and nite number 2 was worse than 1. I hope that they get a little better. The restless legs drove me nuts!!! I took two .25 xanex to sleep fitfully.
Gosh I never want to go throught this again.
But you know what? I woke up this morning without the Pain Pill hangover! Now I just need to get another couple of days under my belt and I will be feeling much, much better. The hours have just crawled by..eeehhh
I have made it long enought to pass on the Sub, I think at this point. If I start flaking out I will consider it.
I dont want to put ANYTHING in my system!!!!
Without this board I couldnt have made it as far as I have, but I still along way to go....
If I can do it you can too!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now on day #3. 72 hours without the Oxys and 63 hours without the Vics.
The comtrex is working wonders and the immodium is just as good. I felt pretty bad yesterday with ZERO energy, and nite number 2 was worse than 1. I hope that they get a little better. The restless legs drove me nuts!!! I took two .25 xanex to sleep fitfully.
Gosh I never want to go throught this again.
But you know what? I woke up this morning without the Pain Pill hangover! Now I just need to get another couple of days under my belt and I will be feeling much, much better. The hours have just crawled by..eeehhh
I have made it long enought to pass on the Sub, I think at this point. If I start flaking out I will consider it.
I dont want to put ANYTHING in my system!!!!
Without this board I couldnt have made it as far as I have, but I still along way to go....
If I can do it you can too!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good morning.I was just reading through & desided to do a "greg check"I see you are doing pretty well concidering.I think you should feel very proud of yourself.You are the one doing the hard work.I think if you think you can do this without the sub that is so great.One less drug to be on huh?Rae is great when it comes to tapering & OTC supplies & stuff so I know shes giving good advise.So I HOPE YOU KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK...have a good day...mj
Thanks for the encouragement!
I have now made it through day 4!
Day three in the AM was pretty awful and the nite sleepless so I called a specialist in Phoenix for help. They put me on Sub 8mg split in half 2X a day and only gave me 4 pills. They also gave me some other stuff for the symptoms. I am happy that its only for a couple of days. Man, that stuff affected me bigtime...
On one hand I am happy I went to the Dr. but on the other hand I feel like I failed by relying on something outside myself.
However I made a good contact with a caring Dr.and found out about the "implant". I have decided to get the Naltrxone implant just as insurance. It lasts 2 months.
I feel better now but a little guilty.:(
I have now made it through day 4!
Day three in the AM was pretty awful and the nite sleepless so I called a specialist in Phoenix for help. They put me on Sub 8mg split in half 2X a day and only gave me 4 pills. They also gave me some other stuff for the symptoms. I am happy that its only for a couple of days. Man, that stuff affected me bigtime...
On one hand I am happy I went to the Dr. but on the other hand I feel like I failed by relying on something outside myself.
However I made a good contact with a caring Dr.and found out about the "implant". I have decided to get the Naltrxone implant just as insurance. It lasts 2 months.
I feel better now but a little guilty.:(
Day 5 Begins....
I am cutting the Sub in half today and go to 4mg with 2mg the following two days and I will be at day 7 and then off everything. YES!!!!
IMHO, after suffering the first 60 or some odd hours I would recommend at least for me to do the Sub initially for the first week of detox.
I WOULD NOT TAKE THIS STUFF DAILY PERIOD! But geze does it minimize the detox...
I am now getting over the physical hump but must come to grips now with the emotional side...
My true journey has just begun....
A good and sober day to all!!!
I am cutting the Sub in half today and go to 4mg with 2mg the following two days and I will be at day 7 and then off everything. YES!!!!
IMHO, after suffering the first 60 or some odd hours I would recommend at least for me to do the Sub initially for the first week of detox.
I WOULD NOT TAKE THIS STUFF DAILY PERIOD! But geze does it minimize the detox...
I am now getting over the physical hump but must come to grips now with the emotional side...
My true journey has just begun....
A good and sober day to all!!!
You are doing a great job. Be very proud.. I'm on day 14 of a 5 year stint on everything.. 380 10/325 vics. 180 oxy and 2 boxs of fentanyl 50 mic. patches a month. It is good to have my life back. It is like I just woke up from a long fog. I Have recieved the best support just reading the post here a the compassion these people have. I'm glad I found this board. And I'm looking foward to tomorrow. just to see how much better I feel.
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the good work.
This is like my life....I finally get the b----s to register and add a few line and it gets desserted... Go Figure
Well I'll just talk to myself..Its been a very hard 16 days. Today I'm in a funk. I feel like my brain turned to mush. I know its just part of the w/d's. I am very proud of myself. My wife finally believes me that I do really want to quit, cold turkey. I wanted to go through the whole gammet.That way no chance of relapsand goin through that again. I have to say I feel Great..The only thing I used for relief was imodium, and the Thomas remedy. I once again love my life, look foward to every new day
JimBo
JimBo
hey jimbo....don't feel alone....people in here have lives and aren't always here when you need them, keep on posting and come back on a little later, someone will be on, nights and mornings are the most active here. i can talk a little if you want
i am an iv cocaine addict, waiting to go to rehab tuesday...but the people on the pain pills board have become my friends and they are very helpful, just don't get disappointed that someone isn't always here.
i am an iv cocaine addict, waiting to go to rehab tuesday...but the people on the pain pills board have become my friends and they are very helpful, just don't get disappointed that someone isn't always here.
Hey bump,
I have gotten my best help hangin around here reading..People are amazingly compassionate and experienced. Just tryin to get over a bad jones..I'll be out of this alone mood shortly
I have gotten my best help hangin around here reading..People are amazingly compassionate and experienced. Just tryin to get over a bad jones..I'll be out of this alone mood shortly
i know that feeling....start your own post and you will get more conversation, alot of addicts are too lazy to go scrolling through a long post. BAD ADDICTS! lol
Thats funny. Hell I juuust got up the nerve to talk to myself..Ive been a lurker for a bout three months
sorry to hear about the micrwave.
