Someone asked me the other day if my panic attack was an overall feeling of doom. The answer is yes..Inow have an overall doomed feeling. I think it was Kat that said she would get back to me on some things she learned about dealing with that? I would appreciate anyones input. I guess it is depression but I also want to know when my stomach will straighten out. I feel sick to my stomach constantly and I notice when that goes away once in a while.. I have a better feeling of well being. Does anyone know how long it takes your brain chemistry to return to normal? I guess you have all been telling me that it took a long time to get into this mess and it takes a long time to get back out. But there must be some facts about the body process. I feel doomed right now.
llh,
Nice to see you made it through the night! I know you have been worried about "when". Its only natural but you just have to ride it out and try to stop focusing on "when"!
Everyone is different this is for sure. So many things will factor into the when. The most important thing is that you are now on your way. Please try to get up and out, I can't stress how much this will help.
Are you still going to detox? You need to see a doctor perhaps an AD for a short period of time is what you need. Your brain chemistry is altered and it will take time. Your body is telling your brain that it is dying.....but its not obviously! You have come so far.....keep going....there is light at the end of the tunnel!
That you can take to the bank!
Nice to see you made it through the night! I know you have been worried about "when". Its only natural but you just have to ride it out and try to stop focusing on "when"!
Everyone is different this is for sure. So many things will factor into the when. The most important thing is that you are now on your way. Please try to get up and out, I can't stress how much this will help.
Are you still going to detox? You need to see a doctor perhaps an AD for a short period of time is what you need. Your brain chemistry is altered and it will take time. Your body is telling your brain that it is dying.....but its not obviously! You have come so far.....keep going....there is light at the end of the tunnel!
That you can take to the bank!
Thanks Kee kee, I am at home doing this alone. I didn't have a Dr. or detox center through this. I am on day 20.. I just counted it up. I thought I was on 19 last week but some of the days are just a blurr. I know I am a lot better then a week ago. I am just so tired of feeling sick. It is such a helpless feeling and all I want is my control back.
You are going to get your control back. Is there anyway you can get to a Doctor? Twenty days is absolutely amazing! I know perhaps the reality of that hasn't quite sunk in yet.
Twenty days!! You are so close....I am in awe of you, really I am. I am suggesting a Doctor because like I said you may need an AntiDepressant...short term. I quit so many times cold turkey like you and didn't take care of those feelings of depression and it led me to a relapse. That is why I say please please take care of that. These are dangerous times!
Getting clean believe it or not is the easy part! Ha! Now you must must go to meetings...you will find so much love there. Now is the time. Can you find a meeting in your area? The strength that I am sure you will find there will help you so much!
I am so proud of you! Give yourself a big ole' hug!
Twenty days!! You are so close....I am in awe of you, really I am. I am suggesting a Doctor because like I said you may need an AntiDepressant...short term. I quit so many times cold turkey like you and didn't take care of those feelings of depression and it led me to a relapse. That is why I say please please take care of that. These are dangerous times!
Getting clean believe it or not is the easy part! Ha! Now you must must go to meetings...you will find so much love there. Now is the time. Can you find a meeting in your area? The strength that I am sure you will find there will help you so much!
I am so proud of you! Give yourself a big ole' hug!
I can handle this so much better when my stomach doesn't hurt. Did anyone else experience stomach aches this far out. 20 days.
llh,
It takes time. You didn't take pills for 20 days and it is going to take longer than that to feel better. Your natural energy comes back gradually. Your stomach will start to feel better very soon.. Are you eating well balanced meals 3 times a day? Are you trying to get out and exercise a little everyday? You may have to start pushing yourself a little now. You won't feel like this forever, I promise.
It all depends on the person on how long it takes to feel better. It also depends on what medication you were taking and how much you were taking for how long. Someone that was taking 4 vicodin a day for 2 years is probably going to feel better sooner than someone that was taking 4-10 methadone a day for 2 years. If you see what I mean. Drink water, exercise and talk to yourself during your panic attacks. Remind yourself that your okay. Your not going to die and breathe.
Kat256 does have some awesome advice on how to get rid of your panic attacks. She told me a long time ago when I was having them. So hopefully she posts to you soon.
Hang in there and congrats on day 20. Think positive. Your going to get better.
Rae
It takes time. You didn't take pills for 20 days and it is going to take longer than that to feel better. Your natural energy comes back gradually. Your stomach will start to feel better very soon.. Are you eating well balanced meals 3 times a day? Are you trying to get out and exercise a little everyday? You may have to start pushing yourself a little now. You won't feel like this forever, I promise.
It all depends on the person on how long it takes to feel better. It also depends on what medication you were taking and how much you were taking for how long. Someone that was taking 4 vicodin a day for 2 years is probably going to feel better sooner than someone that was taking 4-10 methadone a day for 2 years. If you see what I mean. Drink water, exercise and talk to yourself during your panic attacks. Remind yourself that your okay. Your not going to die and breathe.
Kat256 does have some awesome advice on how to get rid of your panic attacks. She told me a long time ago when I was having them. So hopefully she posts to you soon.
Hang in there and congrats on day 20. Think positive. Your going to get better.
Rae
Thanks Rae,
I am trying to eat but nothing tastes or sounds good. I have no appetite. I have been making myself eat but then feel sick after. I have lost a lot of weight. Why are the bowels so messed up from stopping. I could do a lot more at this point if I could be away from the bathroom and didn't feel like pukeing all the time. How long did it take for you stomach to straighten out. I took a lot of oxys and percocet 4 times a day for several months non stop. before that it was a couple years of at least something every day.
I am trying to eat but nothing tastes or sounds good. I have no appetite. I have been making myself eat but then feel sick after. I have lost a lot of weight. Why are the bowels so messed up from stopping. I could do a lot more at this point if I could be away from the bathroom and didn't feel like pukeing all the time. How long did it take for you stomach to straighten out. I took a lot of oxys and percocet 4 times a day for several months non stop. before that it was a couple years of at least something every day.
II.............
big hugs ........
i just said a prayer for you...........
thumper
big hugs ........
i just said a prayer for you...........
thumper
Are you actually throwing up? Or are you having diarrhea? Or do you just have an upset stomach? All of the above is very normal. I would give yourself another week at least! Your doing great.. You should be very proud of yourself.
It sounds like you abused your body for a while and this is the price you have to pay for that. It sucks but you will get through it. I can't tell you when it will end cause like I said above everyone is different. When I detoxed from methadone back in 2002 it took a month to physically feel okay. Even longer to feel 100%.
When I detoxed from Vicodin it didn't take as long more like a couple weeks.
I swear multi-vitamins really helped. So did eating banana's and taking Immodium AD. That stopped the diarrhea anyway.
Hang in there and keep posting. Everyone here understands what you are going through.
Rae ( Rachel)
It sounds like you abused your body for a while and this is the price you have to pay for that. It sucks but you will get through it. I can't tell you when it will end cause like I said above everyone is different. When I detoxed from methadone back in 2002 it took a month to physically feel okay. Even longer to feel 100%.
When I detoxed from Vicodin it didn't take as long more like a couple weeks.
I swear multi-vitamins really helped. So did eating banana's and taking Immodium AD. That stopped the diarrhea anyway.
Hang in there and keep posting. Everyone here understands what you are going through.
Rae ( Rachel)
It's not unusual to catch a bug or even get get a cold when you detox.If you have 20 days,your stomach shouldn't be this upset.You might want to see a Dr, in the morning if you think that would help.
The mental depression and fatigue can last longer if you don't get any exercise.
After prolonged opiate abuse,your brain has an endorphin depletion.They do come back on their own but if you are not doing anything to help it,it can be slow and painful.
You have literally got to make your body move.Start going for a mile walk and work up from there.Are there any NA/AA meetings you can go to?Therapy?
The worst thing you can do is sit around.You don't get any exercise and then you just obsess about how bad you feel and then you get more depressed.
It will make you feel so much better about yourself to take some action.
Good Luck
The mental depression and fatigue can last longer if you don't get any exercise.
After prolonged opiate abuse,your brain has an endorphin depletion.They do come back on their own but if you are not doing anything to help it,it can be slow and painful.
You have literally got to make your body move.Start going for a mile walk and work up from there.Are there any NA/AA meetings you can go to?Therapy?
The worst thing you can do is sit around.You don't get any exercise and then you just obsess about how bad you feel and then you get more depressed.
It will make you feel so much better about yourself to take some action.
Good Luck
I haven't posted in awhile but your post sruck me. After 20 days sounds almost like you were on methadone. I was taking 400mgs/day of methadone but before that, I had a 100 per day percocet habit. When I detoxed at home and I have about 12 times from percs or hydros, after a couple of weeks I was fine and I had been using hydros and percs for 10 years. It has been the methadone wds that have drug out for 5 months now and that is even on subutex.
When I had panic attacks, which I never had prior to methadone, mine would go away if I could force myself to get outside and walk around the block.
Hey Everybody
Jw
When I had panic attacks, which I never had prior to methadone, mine would go away if I could force myself to get outside and walk around the block.
Hey Everybody
Jw
diarrhea about 3 times a day and feeling like throwing up constantly. I guess I could call my Dr. tomorrow but I don't want a prescription for anything, I think I just want to make sure this would be expected and my liver hasn't shut down or something. I am pushing myself today to see if that will help but it would be a lot easier if I felt better at least physically. I know the mental part will take some time. I was pretty out of shape from doing absolutly nothing for quite an extended period of time, and I have lost about 15lbs so i am down to about 115 and am 5'4'. So I feel really weak. I want to exercise just not sure where to start. Before I began this I told myself that if I ever had an urge to take a pill again in my life I would do jumping jacks or something to release a natural high. Sounded good, but my legs won't move yet. I hope I am just being impatient and This is still about to get a lot better.
Hey Jw
So you felt fine after a couple of weeks, how long did you stay off? I definitly was only taking oxy and percocet.
So you felt fine after a couple of weeks, how long did you stay off? I definitly was only taking oxy and percocet.
You may be dehydrated, I am with Tim, go to a doctor.
llh
I was on percocets and hydros for 10 years from 1986-1996. I went to various rehabs and did a lot of detoxing on my own. Whether it was at home or in rehab, I had to just cold turkey the hydros/percs because those are drugs that unlike, benzos and barbituates, it is not necesary to taper because of siezure potential. I found trying to taper just drug out my wds. The first rehab I went to was in 1987 and I was taking 6x 5mg hydros a day and had been for nine months. The last time I detoxed I was at home and it was now ten years later and my habit had grown from 6x 5mg hydro per day to 100 percocets in a 12 hour period(25 every 4 hours).
In between those ten years, I have detoxed cold turkey from the hydros and oxys no less than 12 times. Each and every time regardless of my dose, within 7 days I was ready to go out and be among the living and had no depression. It got better from there and within a couple of weeks I felt like my old self. You should fall asleep and wake up soon and be a new person. You are about there.
My problem was I could only stay clean for two months at a time. Feeling good for me after wds was a double edge sword. I would always come to think about how once I had broken the physical chains, I could now 'control' my drug use. I would go to meetings and everything but still would forget the negatives of using and would only have what they call euphoric recall.
After ten years of that crap a dr suggested methadone. I was on it from 1996 till last September, when I switched to Sub. Methadone actually became my bottom. I had become just become someone taking up space and existing. The world kept revolving and evolving and I was just standing still and stagnating. Actually you never stand still, you are either going foward or you are going backwards. I put myself into precipitated wds by taking Subutex without being in wds and I thought I knew what wds were all about but I had no idea. It has now been 5 months since I have had methadone and for the ten years I was on methadone I never abused the hydros or percs so it has been 20 years since my addiction to those.
But even with taking Subutex I still feel as though I am in wds from methadone.
All I can say is I hope you get it right and do not have to go on methadone or Sub. There is no substitute for a brain that has healed and is, once again, producing natural highs as well as natural lows. And you have a better chance at that healing if you stop at the short acting opiates such as you were on.. If the highs and lows are natural they even out to normalcy. But always taking drugs, especially the long acting ones like methadone, there is no normal only really high highs and really low lows. Kinda like a rollercoaster.
Good Luck
JW
I was on percocets and hydros for 10 years from 1986-1996. I went to various rehabs and did a lot of detoxing on my own. Whether it was at home or in rehab, I had to just cold turkey the hydros/percs because those are drugs that unlike, benzos and barbituates, it is not necesary to taper because of siezure potential. I found trying to taper just drug out my wds. The first rehab I went to was in 1987 and I was taking 6x 5mg hydros a day and had been for nine months. The last time I detoxed I was at home and it was now ten years later and my habit had grown from 6x 5mg hydro per day to 100 percocets in a 12 hour period(25 every 4 hours).
In between those ten years, I have detoxed cold turkey from the hydros and oxys no less than 12 times. Each and every time regardless of my dose, within 7 days I was ready to go out and be among the living and had no depression. It got better from there and within a couple of weeks I felt like my old self. You should fall asleep and wake up soon and be a new person. You are about there.
My problem was I could only stay clean for two months at a time. Feeling good for me after wds was a double edge sword. I would always come to think about how once I had broken the physical chains, I could now 'control' my drug use. I would go to meetings and everything but still would forget the negatives of using and would only have what they call euphoric recall.
After ten years of that crap a dr suggested methadone. I was on it from 1996 till last September, when I switched to Sub. Methadone actually became my bottom. I had become just become someone taking up space and existing. The world kept revolving and evolving and I was just standing still and stagnating. Actually you never stand still, you are either going foward or you are going backwards. I put myself into precipitated wds by taking Subutex without being in wds and I thought I knew what wds were all about but I had no idea. It has now been 5 months since I have had methadone and for the ten years I was on methadone I never abused the hydros or percs so it has been 20 years since my addiction to those.
But even with taking Subutex I still feel as though I am in wds from methadone.
All I can say is I hope you get it right and do not have to go on methadone or Sub. There is no substitute for a brain that has healed and is, once again, producing natural highs as well as natural lows. And you have a better chance at that healing if you stop at the short acting opiates such as you were on.. If the highs and lows are natural they even out to normalcy. But always taking drugs, especially the long acting ones like methadone, there is no normal only really high highs and really low lows. Kinda like a rollercoaster.
Good Luck
JW
you really need to see a doctor, even if it is an immediate care or hospital, they cant through you out if you dont have ins. 20 days is awesome, however the depression last longer than the physical wd does. I wont hurt to just get checked out. PLZZZZZ keep posting
Felicia
93 days
one day at a time
Felicia
93 days
one day at a time
llh!
Congradulations on 20 days! I'm with the people who said to seek medical advice. I appreciate you're not wanting to take anything, but phenergan for the nausea and immodium for the dirrereha (sp?), will make things a little easier for you. What exactly are you coming off of (if you don't mind my asking)?
The FEELING OF IMPENDING DOOM sucks. I've never gotten (yet) with opiates but it was that feeling more than anything else, that stopped my drinking. To this day - I seldom drink, and if I do - I don't drink much for fear of that dreaded feeling. I hate that feeling. I guess it's depression but I think it's more than just depression. You're feeling that something terrible is happening or about to happen? Maybe it's the addiction talking so you'll feed it (just a thought). It will just take time to go away but hang in there! Nourish your body in healthy ways. Try to take it easy on yourself. Again, congradulations ! 20 days is amazing and gives me hope too!
Congradulations on 20 days! I'm with the people who said to seek medical advice. I appreciate you're not wanting to take anything, but phenergan for the nausea and immodium for the dirrereha (sp?), will make things a little easier for you. What exactly are you coming off of (if you don't mind my asking)?
The FEELING OF IMPENDING DOOM sucks. I've never gotten (yet) with opiates but it was that feeling more than anything else, that stopped my drinking. To this day - I seldom drink, and if I do - I don't drink much for fear of that dreaded feeling. I hate that feeling. I guess it's depression but I think it's more than just depression. You're feeling that something terrible is happening or about to happen? Maybe it's the addiction talking so you'll feed it (just a thought). It will just take time to go away but hang in there! Nourish your body in healthy ways. Try to take it easy on yourself. Again, congradulations ! 20 days is amazing and gives me hope too!
llh,
Listen hun. Go to the doctor. If that isn't an option go to the store. Talk to a pharmacist. If you are 21 days into detox and still having diarrhea 3 times a day that is not really normal. The upset stomach and loss of appetite that is normal..
Get some Immodium AD, Pedialyte & Ensure...Drink WATER WATER WATER!! You've got to replace what is coming out..
Ginger ale is great for an upset stomach.
Hang in there. If you continue to diarrhea after trying these things please go to the doctor. Either that or call 911 if you get any worse.
Your going to be okay. It may just take some more time.
You may be dehydrated. Here is a list of symtoms you may experience with dehydration.
Electrolyte solutions or freezer pops are especially effective. These are available at pharmacies. Sport drinks contain a lot of sugar and can cause or worsen diarrhea. In infants and children, avoid using water as the primary replacement fluid.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/...icle/000982.htm
http://www.kidshealth.org/teen/safe...ehydration.html
Rae
Listen hun. Go to the doctor. If that isn't an option go to the store. Talk to a pharmacist. If you are 21 days into detox and still having diarrhea 3 times a day that is not really normal. The upset stomach and loss of appetite that is normal..
Get some Immodium AD, Pedialyte & Ensure...Drink WATER WATER WATER!! You've got to replace what is coming out..
Ginger ale is great for an upset stomach.
Hang in there. If you continue to diarrhea after trying these things please go to the doctor. Either that or call 911 if you get any worse.
Your going to be okay. It may just take some more time.
You may be dehydrated. Here is a list of symtoms you may experience with dehydration.
Electrolyte solutions or freezer pops are especially effective. These are available at pharmacies. Sport drinks contain a lot of sugar and can cause or worsen diarrhea. In infants and children, avoid using water as the primary replacement fluid.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/...icle/000982.htm
http://www.kidshealth.org/teen/safe...ehydration.html
Rae
Rae.....so the loss of appetite and upset stomach is normal at this stage? That makes me feel a little better. I have heard a lot of people say they felt better in a couple of weeks and so I keep worrying that something must be wrong. I feel a little better this morning. I had a normal bowel movement and thought, this is good.... then I threw up. There wasn't anything in my stomach but water so it wasn't that bad and now I feel pretty calm for the moment. I just hope I don't go backwards here. I can handle the feelings I am having so much better when my stomach doesn't hurt. I am scared to take anything so I haven't tried imodium, I guess I thought I should know what my body was really going through... but if it isn't going to slow my recovery I will try anything at this point. If the diarrhea comes back I will try it. Once I start to feel better physically it shouldn't really go back should it? If I get sicker at this point should I see the Dr ? Or should I expect some set backs with symptoms.
Sweetie your going to be okay. None of us here are doctor's. Nobody here knows your body better than you. If you think or feel something is really wrong then seek medical attention. In my opinion if your not have diarrhea and you do not think your dehydrated then you'll be just fine.
What you need to do at this point is think POSITIVE. STOP thinking your going to go backwards and all that. That more than likely will NOT happen. I am not going to lie to you either. You will have days like the rest of the world that are good and bad. There are going to be days that you feel pretty good and other days that your not quite so energetic.
Your body has gone through a lot in the past 3 weeks. Just think a month ago you were abusing oxy's. You've come along way. Give yourself some credit.
If the diarrhea should return take some Immodium AD and make a doctor's appt. The Immodium AD will not set you back in your recovery and will keep you from losing so much fluid. It's like 5 bucks at the drug store.
Why don't you get out and walk a little today? I don't expect you to walk/run 3 miles but just a little walk. Are you able to do that? Possibly read a book. Just do something and stop thinking about it. I know it's easier said than done but sometimes you have to PUSH yourself a little.
It will take time but you will be back to your old-self again very very soon.
Think positive. The mind is a powerful thing. I know your worried but a lot of what your going through is normal. Like I said if you continue to vomit and have diarrhea see a doctor. You may need IV fluids..
Take care and congrats on 21 days clean and sober. Do something special for yourself today. You deserve it.
Rae
Ps. I want you to go to this web site and read some. Once you click on this link below, click on the web site on the right that says " Withdrawl Stories/Signs of abuse.... You will read stories of other's that have gone through what you have. It is a very informative site to read.
http://oxyabusekills.com/
What you need to do at this point is think POSITIVE. STOP thinking your going to go backwards and all that. That more than likely will NOT happen. I am not going to lie to you either. You will have days like the rest of the world that are good and bad. There are going to be days that you feel pretty good and other days that your not quite so energetic.
Your body has gone through a lot in the past 3 weeks. Just think a month ago you were abusing oxy's. You've come along way. Give yourself some credit.
If the diarrhea should return take some Immodium AD and make a doctor's appt. The Immodium AD will not set you back in your recovery and will keep you from losing so much fluid. It's like 5 bucks at the drug store.
Why don't you get out and walk a little today? I don't expect you to walk/run 3 miles but just a little walk. Are you able to do that? Possibly read a book. Just do something and stop thinking about it. I know it's easier said than done but sometimes you have to PUSH yourself a little.
It will take time but you will be back to your old-self again very very soon.
Think positive. The mind is a powerful thing. I know your worried but a lot of what your going through is normal. Like I said if you continue to vomit and have diarrhea see a doctor. You may need IV fluids..
Take care and congrats on 21 days clean and sober. Do something special for yourself today. You deserve it.
Rae
Ps. I want you to go to this web site and read some. Once you click on this link below, click on the web site on the right that says " Withdrawl Stories/Signs of abuse.... You will read stories of other's that have gone through what you have. It is a very informative site to read.
http://oxyabusekills.com/
