When To Start The Subbies?

Heroin
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I read on another post topic that you can take the subbies 8 hours after your last fix, but my boyfriend is finding it really hard to get back on his subbies. He tried a couple fo weeks ago but took them too soon (even though he left it over 12 hours) and it kicked him straight into violent w/d. He reckons he needs 36 hours which means going through a really difficult patch. Can anyone advise me whether it's just different for everyone?

Thanks.
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My boyfriends drugs worker advised him to go 8-10 hours but apparently the normal time is 24 hours. I must say everyone is different. My boyfriend went straight into withdrawels also today after re-starting on subbies. It puts him off and I suppose its a pathetic excuse to go score the next day. He even uses when he had his tablets and says it doesnt actually make him high but it still does something. Am not sure whether its all in his head but I really dont think subbies are for him!!

Lynds xx
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He says it's a waste of his money (or rather my money!) when he's on his subbies cos he says it has no effect. Makes him feel a bit sick too. But he's still trying to get back on the dam tablets! Says he wants me to supervise him then changes his mind when he starts to feel s***. Hard to know how firm to be. Havn't been together long and don't wanna be a pain in the a**!
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He needs to be in moderate wd, not just feeling a bit icky. Which can be different from one person to another.
The longer he waits the safer he is and the easier to switch over. Low dose to start..oh please say he is getting this from a doctor.And it might take 3 days to adjust, but it shouldnt be hell those days.

Now you need to take care of you and let him work out this mess himself. If he wants this that 36 hours will hurt but in the end he knows that is it and then off into a new life.
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When I first took subs I left it about 12 hours, but the first day I just took 4mgs, 12mgs the 2nd day and 16mgs the 3rd day. Yep, you gotta expect to be a bit uncomfortable for a few days, but you know what they say - no pain no gain. There's no painless way to get off heroin, so I'm afraid it's s*** or get off the pot. Sorry to be blunt, but it's something I had to get my head round before I was able to get clean. You, or rather your partner, needs a bit of "gumption" and to stop being such a baby. Nothing worth having ever came easy...

best wishes

diff xxx
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Ha! Yeah I'm not gonna tell him he's being a baby!!! But yeah he is getting them from a doctor, although his doc doesn't know he's had a relapse. He's done this before so I know he can do it again. Not sure what the dose is but I think he knows what he is doing. What I find hard is that when he fails he tells me he wants my help next time and wants to involve me in like the planning process but then when he starts he shuts me out so I back off because I don't wanna try too hard, he's gotta do this himself right? Guess I'm just finding it hard because I really thought he'd do it last time and I don't know how it's gonna be any different next time. I guess sometimes the will is just stronger?

Maddy x