hi.i was injecting in2 my groin..what do u all thinks worst turkey shooting up or smoking ???
dang, i always thought people were kidding when they said that...
i suffered worst withdrawal from snorting heroin
than i did when shooting oxycontin....but i managed
to keep the dose down pretty low.
it just all depends on how much ya do, i reckon.
i suffered worst withdrawal from snorting heroin
than i did when shooting oxycontin....but i managed
to keep the dose down pretty low.
it just all depends on how much ya do, i reckon.
I'd say the needle....only because you have the love of the needle itself.
A lifer told me once DO NOT DO IT...when someone in our company explained I was wasting good heroin by not mainlining.
The detox I have seen in the same.....I guess no matter how ya get it you're going to have the same result.....but yeah the needle because that's a whole new realm.....the exchange, and like you said you were using your groin....hey, people really do get messed up in the package department when using those veins......just seems anyone I know mainlined had a harder time to kick.
A lifer told me once DO NOT DO IT...when someone in our company explained I was wasting good heroin by not mainlining.
The detox I have seen in the same.....I guess no matter how ya get it you're going to have the same result.....but yeah the needle because that's a whole new realm.....the exchange, and like you said you were using your groin....hey, people really do get messed up in the package department when using those veins......just seems anyone I know mainlined had a harder time to kick.
groin hey,,i was always scared of needles,only started injecting after being on the smack 7 year...ive only just started to hit myself up,as i got others 2 do it 4 me.
feellike killing myself..dont worry im 2 strong minded.
lots of will power.
feellike killing myself..dont worry im 2 strong minded.
lots of will power.
I was always disgusted by using needles, when I first started snorting, then I noticed how much less I would have to use if I just shot it up, well, that is an ineviatble procsess. I once got a bag that was loaded with something not heroin, but I was so desperate that I shot it up anyway just incase there was alittle in there. For the longest time I had no idea what I was, but now I work in a coffee shop, I opened the chai tea, and there was that putrip smell. I shot up chai tea, how sad. Now i know why I went into convulsions after, shooting caffine like that!
wow mad s***..we dont get that over here where i am,england,
it was pretty awful, and I was insanley pissed. I called my dope dealer and told him i was going to the er, so he freaked out and helped me with a good bag. Sickening in retrospect. I should have just beat the tar out of him
Worst withdrawls I have ever experienced are while tooting/smoking gear. Dont know why, but I find several people I know say this.
id agree with that,my worst rattles have been from smoking..im hoping this rattle will only last 3 or 4 days..just done my first 24 hours cold turkey.
Paul - I have never done a cold turkey - only attempted detox once in the 14 years of my using - that was last June on Subs at home - they put me into a full cluck which was absolutely terrible for me - but doped up on sleepers helped me - dont remember much as it goes except my legs giving me much grief. This site helped me during all of last year - would have been lost without the people on here.
Hope you can stick it out mate - well done for going for it.
Beck
Hope you can stick it out mate - well done for going for it.
Beck
there hard but no impos,been on the subs myself,was still using on top of them needed alot of gear to feel the effect,yea ur right they take sum getting used to i was rattling for just over 1 week when i got put on the subs,,very strange feeling,its like being coked up and rattling at the same time.
o my god, that's the best definition of getting on the subs i've ever heard! coked up and rattling . it should go in the oxford dictionary!
i'm trying to get onto subs (again) but the experience i've had on them puts me off somewhat as you feel pretty crap. haven't stuck it out to see if it gets better!
re.worst cluck, definitely relates to how much. have a friend who weaned off it over 8 montha (how much willpower does that take!) and only had a few nights of wierd dreams and night sweats.
i'm trying to get onto subs (again) but the experience i've had on them puts me off somewhat as you feel pretty crap. haven't stuck it out to see if it gets better!
re.worst cluck, definitely relates to how much. have a friend who weaned off it over 8 montha (how much willpower does that take!) and only had a few nights of wierd dreams and night sweats.
..I,ve never whacked it up..but i,ve heard the w/ds are worse than if ya smoked it
..Robbie..
..Robbie..
I've done both-kicked off the needle & off smoking & it is bad either way...I spent 2 wks in London smoking & kicked like a mule on the flight back to L.A. , strip-searched in Baltimore, boy those Customs folks are real charmers but as I had nothing on me & offered to get completely nude for them (hey, I was an art student,Life Drawing classes, human nudity doesn't frighten ME) they tossed me out & back on the plane to L.A. I find kicking off the needle hard cause you get used to, as Jane's Addiction put it so well, the "Ritual de lo Habitual"-the ritual of the Habit.Think about it, it is like a little ceremony, in a perverted way.I think also w/ the needle you get into a piercing-desire type trip that a Psychiatrist would be mighty interested in.But those who say kicking off smoking or snorting is easier are fooling themselves. I KNOW.Each is as bad as the other.
PS I also saw a guy shoot up into his neck once & THAT was mighty shocking.But he didn't tie off first...
