Davey
Im a bit confused on how MMT works over there. Do you go to a clinic every day and drink? Am I getting this right? Than after you earn take homes ,I guess thru good behavoir and clean samples ,you go to a chemist?
Do you have chemist on the site?? What I mean is- is the chemist at the clinic? - or- is he at the local drugstore(the same place where you can pickup toothpaste if you need it)
Do you only go to a chemist once you get
6 bottles? -or does this chemist get involved every time you earn 1.
Does the cash paid ,go toward the clinic or to a chemist- or is it 1 and the same??
Just curious- you never know ,I might move to the UK one day and I want to know what Im in for.
peace*respect
jack
Yep Jack people who give regular dirty urines go in daily&get a supervised dose...they are screen twice a week,but sometimes they can get wknd.takeouts.If you give clean samples for a mnth.or so they give you weekly takeouts which you have to pick up at a chemist.As you know all of this is free,but what ive said is generally right some clinics vary but not much.I am in the lucky position..coz i get a 13day takeout..reason being i work shifts&have to look after my daughter..all of this i had to prove to my Doct.in the clinic...also i moved out of Dublin..bout 4yr.ago to a medium size town bout 75miles from the city,so after doin an 8hr.shift..6am/2pm..i have to then drive up to get my takouts..but at least its only once every 2 weeks.The clinics here are quite flexible...i know people on it who havent given aclean one in ages&they are still getting the meth.daily.Hope this answers a few Qs for you...take care....Davey
There is a pharmacy on site were people get a supervised dose&have to give a sample.Folks on weekly takeouts must do the same but they collect the methd.at a drugstore&dont get it in 6 seperate bottles its in one or two 500ml bottles..depending on their dose..The clinic can also dispense benzos/sleepers if the Doct.thinks its necessary..but you can only pick them up daily..cutting out some of the pill blackmarket.If i think of anthing else il post.
P.S a great book on U.S drug policy called The Fix by M.Massing. covers everthing from a badly funded drug office(outreach,rehab)called Hot Line..in Spainish Harlem 110th st. i think...to drug policy from the 1st meth.clinics in the U.S in the Nixon yrs...well worth a read as yer a New Yorker&it deals with drugs from the street to Washington&back.
Take care J.;.........Davey
P.S a great book on U.S drug policy called The Fix by M.Massing. covers everthing from a badly funded drug office(outreach,rehab)called Hot Line..in Spainish Harlem 110th st. i think...to drug policy from the 1st meth.clinics in the U.S in the Nixon yrs...well worth a read as yer a New Yorker&it deals with drugs from the street to Washington&back.
Take care J.;.........Davey
Sorry Jack forget..about yer Qs about the money i.e who gets what..basically its all funded by the health sevices,the drugstores get there cut&the clinics get money to open up new places.A rough tally in Dublin city alone there are bout 20,000 addicts about 5000 are on some sort of methd.programme.Check that book out coz im sure you would relate to plenty of the stuff in it.TAKE CARE....Davey
Hi Jack, just to point out that Davey is in Southern Ireland (I think - don't shoot me down in flames if I'm wrong good buddy!!) and it's a different way of working over there than in the UK proper (Southern Ireland is a separate government). I live in Wales, and as such, we're subject to Home Office rules and regs regarding NHS prescribing of methadone/subutex. The way it works here is that in order to get an NHS prescription of meth or subs you have to first have a drug worker, who is a state employee. There are several ways to get a drug worker. Your GP can refer you - this can take time and you may wait for six months or even longer. You can be referred if you are arrested for a drugs related offence. Your probation officer can refer you if you are on probation. Again, these can all involve a wait. And the courts can order it, in the form of a Drugs Treatment and Testing Order (a DTTO). If it's a DTTO, then there's no wait, but it is compulsary and you are bound to give clean samples after treatment has started otherwise you could land yourself back in the dock, and possibly jail.
With me, I was referred by my GP, and had to wait over six months. But eventually I was allocated a drug worker. You have an initial meeting with a drug worker where they assess you, and decide on an appropriate course of treatment. The first meeting is normally at the drug workers place of work, and thereafter, if you're not deemed to be a threat, then the drug worker will visit you at home. Then you go back to your GP, with your drug worker, and the drug worker tells the Dr what to prescribe you. The prescription comes in the form of a "blue script" (except I don't think they're blue any more), which is a special prescription for "controlled drugs". Each blue script is for two weeks, and on the back of the script there is a box for each day of the two week script, which the pharmacist signs off as he gives you your meds.
Then, you take the blue script to a chemist that prescribes controlled drugs. There are only 3 in the town where I live. Then every day, you have to attend the chemists, and they give you your daily dose, which you have to take in front of the pharmacist. Generally, you are not allowed to take the drug out of the chemist shop, apart from on Saturdays, when they give you Sundays dose to take home.
In the meantime, your drug worker will visit you regularly, sometimes up to 3 times a week, and perform regular drugs tests. Your drug worker will normally attend your 2 weekly Drs appointment with you and report to the Dr whether you have given clean urines or not. It's normally a 3 strikes and you're out rule.
They tend to enforce these rules very strictly at the beginning, but if after several months you seem to be doing OK, they don't test you so often. They're very strict about take homes though. I only got take homes when I was down to my last few mgs of subs, and even then it was only 3 days at a time. But I was rarely tested, and sometimes wouldn't see my drug worker for a few weeks. Also, my Dr started giving me 2 two week scripts at a time, so I only had to see him once a month.
The drugs team also offered additional support, which I took full advantage of. I had a support worker, who would come and see me, just for a chat, and we'd go out for coffee or something. And I got an addictions specialist psychiatrist. Oh, and a social worker, but I was signed off her caseload over a year ago. The support they have given me has been on-going, and although I have been off my script for nearly a year now, I still see my drug worker, and still see my shrink.
And all of this is completely free of charge, including the scripts. When people moan about Britain, and say what a s*** place it is, I think to myself "you don't even know that you're born mate...". The system isn't perfect, and subject to financial restrictions, like any other, but to my mind, I can't think of a better state run scheme anywhere.
Hope that explains it for you!
love
Diff xxx
With me, I was referred by my GP, and had to wait over six months. But eventually I was allocated a drug worker. You have an initial meeting with a drug worker where they assess you, and decide on an appropriate course of treatment. The first meeting is normally at the drug workers place of work, and thereafter, if you're not deemed to be a threat, then the drug worker will visit you at home. Then you go back to your GP, with your drug worker, and the drug worker tells the Dr what to prescribe you. The prescription comes in the form of a "blue script" (except I don't think they're blue any more), which is a special prescription for "controlled drugs". Each blue script is for two weeks, and on the back of the script there is a box for each day of the two week script, which the pharmacist signs off as he gives you your meds.
Then, you take the blue script to a chemist that prescribes controlled drugs. There are only 3 in the town where I live. Then every day, you have to attend the chemists, and they give you your daily dose, which you have to take in front of the pharmacist. Generally, you are not allowed to take the drug out of the chemist shop, apart from on Saturdays, when they give you Sundays dose to take home.
In the meantime, your drug worker will visit you regularly, sometimes up to 3 times a week, and perform regular drugs tests. Your drug worker will normally attend your 2 weekly Drs appointment with you and report to the Dr whether you have given clean urines or not. It's normally a 3 strikes and you're out rule.
They tend to enforce these rules very strictly at the beginning, but if after several months you seem to be doing OK, they don't test you so often. They're very strict about take homes though. I only got take homes when I was down to my last few mgs of subs, and even then it was only 3 days at a time. But I was rarely tested, and sometimes wouldn't see my drug worker for a few weeks. Also, my Dr started giving me 2 two week scripts at a time, so I only had to see him once a month.
The drugs team also offered additional support, which I took full advantage of. I had a support worker, who would come and see me, just for a chat, and we'd go out for coffee or something. And I got an addictions specialist psychiatrist. Oh, and a social worker, but I was signed off her caseload over a year ago. The support they have given me has been on-going, and although I have been off my script for nearly a year now, I still see my drug worker, and still see my shrink.
And all of this is completely free of charge, including the scripts. When people moan about Britain, and say what a s*** place it is, I think to myself "you don't even know that you're born mate...". The system isn't perfect, and subject to financial restrictions, like any other, but to my mind, I can't think of a better state run scheme anywhere.
Hope that explains it for you!
love
Diff xxx
Interesting stuff- & Davey Ill be looking for that book.
Not to start a potilical war here ,but I think I remember you stating you were Irish Catholic- since the north & south proclaimed some kind of programes to end the voilence of the Bobby Sands years ,have things(social issues,employment, the economy, etc...) gotten any better?? Not just in the mdone ,medical field because Im sure that is not to high on the list.
Just out of curiousity,has Adams and Sinn Fein made a differance? Did the"Good Friday agreement" really help put everyones differences on the fast track to healing and understanding?- or is Jerry Adams looked at like a sell out?
Didnt mean to get into this but,I got to wondering if treatment would be the same in Belfast as in Dublin?
Hey Sandy,and her whole family,now living in Albany/Saratoga- NY State ,all came from from the "poor ,repressed irish catholic part of the island"- jeez ,you dont know how many times I,ve heard that!!!- F**K those Orangeman she says!!
I have enough problems as a second generation Sicilian- lol
anyway- have a good day
jack
Not to start a potilical war here ,but I think I remember you stating you were Irish Catholic- since the north & south proclaimed some kind of programes to end the voilence of the Bobby Sands years ,have things(social issues,employment, the economy, etc...) gotten any better?? Not just in the mdone ,medical field because Im sure that is not to high on the list.
Just out of curiousity,has Adams and Sinn Fein made a differance? Did the"Good Friday agreement" really help put everyones differences on the fast track to healing and understanding?- or is Jerry Adams looked at like a sell out?
Didnt mean to get into this but,I got to wondering if treatment would be the same in Belfast as in Dublin?
Hey Sandy,and her whole family,now living in Albany/Saratoga- NY State ,all came from from the "poor ,repressed irish catholic part of the island"- jeez ,you dont know how many times I,ve heard that!!!- F**K those Orangeman she says!!
I have enough problems as a second generation Sicilian- lol
anyway- have a good day
jack
Hi Jack,
I too, like Davey, am a good old Irish Catholic from the Republic! Whereas we, in the south have our Department of Health and Children they (being the northerners) have the good old NHS. Once over the border up north you're walking the Queen's highway so you'll receive the good old Queen's drug treatment too. Having said that they seem to have their s*** together, at least on the mainland, not too sure about up north (they have problems admitting there's a problem).
I was reading another post, from Diff I think, and man does she have a good set up. Drug workers coming to the doc's with her, sounds like she gets lots of support from the people who are meant to be there for her. Maybe I'm just sceptical but I don't think you'd receive that level of care here. I've always thought that the drug treatment services here in Dublin are sadly lacking, some people have to travel for miles to get to Dublin for treatment which is pathetic. It's the usual Irish way of thinking, shove it under the carpet, if you can't see it and don't talk about it, it's just not happening.
I know funding is always a problem but our Government have this habit of spending millions of euros on projects only to discover after the money has been spent that the project is not going to work and if they had only researched properly in the first instance they would have realised that it was never going to work. For instance, recently the Government set up a new Department to deal with the deregulation of the taxi industry. They spent millions on all these new posters/stickers that were to be sent out to each and every taxi driver in the country and were to be displayed on each rear window of the car- well and good. It was discovered nearly a year later, after I don't know how many accidents, that these 'new' posters/stickers were causing blind spots for the drivers and therefore causing accidents, so what now you ask? They all have to come down, go in the bin and a whole lot of new stuff has to be designed, ordered and circulated. I can certainly think of better ways of spending money I can tell ya....
Things have and haven't changed much up north, You're less likely to get a stone through your window if you're driving a 'D' reg car nowadays (once it's not July) but then there are still places that you just shouldn't go into if you're a southerner. It'll take generations to put right, that's if it can ever be put right.
Peace!
I too, like Davey, am a good old Irish Catholic from the Republic! Whereas we, in the south have our Department of Health and Children they (being the northerners) have the good old NHS. Once over the border up north you're walking the Queen's highway so you'll receive the good old Queen's drug treatment too. Having said that they seem to have their s*** together, at least on the mainland, not too sure about up north (they have problems admitting there's a problem).
I was reading another post, from Diff I think, and man does she have a good set up. Drug workers coming to the doc's with her, sounds like she gets lots of support from the people who are meant to be there for her. Maybe I'm just sceptical but I don't think you'd receive that level of care here. I've always thought that the drug treatment services here in Dublin are sadly lacking, some people have to travel for miles to get to Dublin for treatment which is pathetic. It's the usual Irish way of thinking, shove it under the carpet, if you can't see it and don't talk about it, it's just not happening.
I know funding is always a problem but our Government have this habit of spending millions of euros on projects only to discover after the money has been spent that the project is not going to work and if they had only researched properly in the first instance they would have realised that it was never going to work. For instance, recently the Government set up a new Department to deal with the deregulation of the taxi industry. They spent millions on all these new posters/stickers that were to be sent out to each and every taxi driver in the country and were to be displayed on each rear window of the car- well and good. It was discovered nearly a year later, after I don't know how many accidents, that these 'new' posters/stickers were causing blind spots for the drivers and therefore causing accidents, so what now you ask? They all have to come down, go in the bin and a whole lot of new stuff has to be designed, ordered and circulated. I can certainly think of better ways of spending money I can tell ya....
Things have and haven't changed much up north, You're less likely to get a stone through your window if you're driving a 'D' reg car nowadays (once it's not July) but then there are still places that you just shouldn't go into if you're a southerner. It'll take generations to put right, that's if it can ever be put right.
Peace!
Thanks for the inside information- that is kind of what I thought.
Our pal Diff,realizes how fortunate she is and hasnt taken anything for granted.
It sounds like she has her fingers on the pulse of the system and used it to her advantage, all while realizing that others in need dont have it like that.
I dont want to sound like Im kissing her arse(like you say) but she does retain much humility while using every thing the system provides for her.
I wish I could say the same for myself. In many situations here I fall thru the cracks- - I make to much $ for assistance,and dont make enough to get the tax breaks. - The true middle class in the US in a dying breed.
When it comes to getting assitance for the mdone clinic- only those who can prove no income and have permanate disabilities can get it (or any meds) for free. The rest of us better have insurance or a job to pay and pay and pay.
Most mdone clinics are a cash business so insurance isnt going to help. 55 dollars a week at my program- so you better have a job to pay for it.-or like I said, have no income at all- and have medicaid foot the bill.
Anyway- itseems that in certain ways our issues arent that different.
nice talking to ya
with much respect
jack
Our pal Diff,realizes how fortunate she is and hasnt taken anything for granted.
It sounds like she has her fingers on the pulse of the system and used it to her advantage, all while realizing that others in need dont have it like that.
I dont want to sound like Im kissing her arse(like you say) but she does retain much humility while using every thing the system provides for her.
I wish I could say the same for myself. In many situations here I fall thru the cracks- - I make to much $ for assistance,and dont make enough to get the tax breaks. - The true middle class in the US in a dying breed.
When it comes to getting assitance for the mdone clinic- only those who can prove no income and have permanate disabilities can get it (or any meds) for free. The rest of us better have insurance or a job to pay and pay and pay.
Most mdone clinics are a cash business so insurance isnt going to help. 55 dollars a week at my program- so you better have a job to pay for it.-or like I said, have no income at all- and have medicaid foot the bill.
Anyway- itseems that in certain ways our issues arent that different.
nice talking to ya
with much respect
jack
Jack on the subject of Northern Ireland..ever since i was a kid i was bombarded by Repulican(I.R.A)sympathies.MY grandfather on my mums side fought in the Irish war of Indepedence..1920/1922..and died shortly after my mum was born from bronchitus..picked up from being on the run from British troops..i.e sleeping out on top of mountainous terrain.My cousins way down in Cork still have his old Lee Enfeild rifle on the wall with a collage of Irish tragic heroes.I live bout 10miles South of the thing we call the border.Things have changed up North..the Unionists are f***ed..as are there paramilitary cohorts..they dunno what to do..now some eqaulity has been brought in Catholics are getting the jobs&housing that was denied them for centurys.Mr Adams&Co.are very smart guys.I dont condone murder of innocents..which both sides aided..especially the loyalists..but Sinn Fein are the largest Catholic party in the North now...so they have had support from the people which all terrorist/liberators..whatever word you want to use..need to sustain themselves in a war with The British Govt..Im ramblin ........take care&tiochadh ar la..translation our day will come...thats abit of Irish langauge.........Davey
Hi, maybe I'm just playing on stereotypes, but I thought in Northern Ireland they had their own way of dealing with hard drugs, and it normally involves a 12 bore shotgun and a lack of kneecaps!! I don't know if it's still like that, but I saw a recent documentary about a paramilitary who had his own son kneecapped for dealing smack.... And his son took it like a man, and said that he got what he deserved...
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Diff x
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Diff x
Yep...Diff..that does happen..not quite as much as years ago but its deff.an option for the men in hoods.Strange thing is were H is most prevelant in loyalist areas.Also you would think N.I would have the same drug policy as the rest of Britain..but nooo..its got f*** all to help addicts in any l/t basis..dont know why.Also just read that in Afganistan they had a bumper crop of opium..i.e last yr.was 450tonnes..this year nearly 700tonnes...so the fallout is obvious cheaper more high grade smack hitting our streets soon.Ta;k soon,,,,,,Davey
Yeah, I heard that too bout Nordie land. That if you've got an addiction problem up there you're pretty f****d - more or less left to fend for yourself. It's kind of unfair when you compare the service that Diff got (lucky woman)! They spent so long standing on us and insisting that that part of our island was theirs and then they don't even look after what they dare to call their own. Now that's what I call denial!!
Bumper crop, how I hate to hear that. The troops should be given permission to go out and burn those god damn poppy fields, educate the locals and encourage them to grow other stuff. But then that's another minefield of political mishaps.
I just heard that David Irvine is dead, anyone else hear that or is it just another one of those crazy rumours??
I'm on and off this computer like a grasshopper, in between packing and trying to get my a** together for this flight tonight. I wish I was Samantha, I'd have some sore nose I can tell you for all my wishes to be granted.
Love ya all.....
Bumper crop, how I hate to hear that. The troops should be given permission to go out and burn those god damn poppy fields, educate the locals and encourage them to grow other stuff. But then that's another minefield of political mishaps.
I just heard that David Irvine is dead, anyone else hear that or is it just another one of those crazy rumours??
I'm on and off this computer like a grasshopper, in between packing and trying to get my a** together for this flight tonight. I wish I was Samantha, I'd have some sore nose I can tell you for all my wishes to be granted.
Love ya all.....
Hi Davey, I'm sure that most parts of the UK don't have such an extensive and far-reaching policy on helping drug addicts as we do in Wales, or at least in Carmarthenshire, where I live. I think they had to do something radical, because heroin swept across south wales like a plague during the past 10 years. I actually grew up in England, in the south east, where jobs are plentiful, standards of living are high, and very few people rely on benefits alone. Heroin struggled to get a foothold in a place like that (although undeniably it still poses a problem). In Wales, the mines are all gone, the traditional heavy industries, like steel and copper either gone or under threat, and up in the valleys, man you have to see it to believe it! Mining towns with no mines. There is literally nothing going on there. No jobs, no where to go, no way out. People live in such isolation. It's like Royston Vasey and The League of Gentlemen!! Kids grow up with nothing on offer - when you ask 'em what they want to be when they grow up and they tell you "on the sick"!!! It's no wonder they end up on smack. Not a day goes by when I don't see heroin deals going down openly on the street. When I'm walking the big fella, if I see someone standing around under a street light in the dark, I know they're waiting for the man (maybe coz I used to deal the s*** myself). It's different faces, but the same look, I'd know it anywhere. Sometimes they even stop me, and I don't even know who they are, and ask me if I've got a bag, coz I guess there's stories about the girl with the big rottweiler who can get you gear, coz I always used to take the boy with me for protection when I went to meet someone. You can put me down, but you'd be a fool to take on my boy - plenty of junkies bear the scars from his teeth coz they thought they could rip me off. Poor baby - that's the one thing I can't forgive myself for, putting my best buddy in that situation, coz I can't deny he bears the psychological scars. He's taken protectiveness to a new level... he won't let ANYBODY even touch me. He attacks first and asks questions later, and I hate seeing him like that, coz he's such a sweetheart really...
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Diff x
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Diff x
Hi Lou, I didn't know you were going tonight. Hope you have a great time. Don't worry about the flight. I once did London to Johannesburg (and it's a f***ing long way!!!) in full cluck. Well, I say full cluck, I was clucking but I took masses of valium and temazapam, way too much, and was pretty much unconscious for three days. When I woke up, I was in this beautiful place, with the sun shining, my own private pool and so much to enjoy, I forgot about the cluck completely and just got on with having fun... being away from heroin takes away a big part of the psychological element, and it's much easier to cope with and you feel better much quicker than if you were at home.
Have fun!
love
Diff xxx
Have fun!
love
Diff xxx
Thanks for that Diff,
Your trip sounds just like what mines gonna be. I'm actually feeling better in myself today, don't know if it's coz we're heading off, maybe a bit of everything. I have some valium, zimmers and dalmane for the journey which I'll pop just before I jump in the taxi.. It'd be just me to fall into a comatose state in the back of the taxi and miss my flight, only joking, my other half wouldn't let that happen.. I'm just soooo looking forward to it, just the two of us, nice clean heads on our shoulders, it'll be good, I can feel it in my bones...
We're gonna try and do some skiing, head to Sierra Nevada for maybe a day or two and see how we get on.. If skating on Ice Skates is anything to go by I'll be a disaster, I can't stand up straight on the blessed things, give me roller skates anytime, four wheels are definitely better than just one thin blade.... And to make matters worse, I look like the Mitchellin Man in my ski suit, hee hee.... We'll have to hire a suit out for Kev so he'll probably end up looking like the real professional and to make matters worse he's one of these that's good at most things he does so he'll end up showing me up either way..
I'm really gonna miss the computer when I'm away I'll have to take more time out and sit in the Internet Cafess for a while.
Oh yeah, more news, nicorette gum and patches are coming on the trip with us.. Not only are we clean but we're going to try and give up the old fags too... Kev managed it before for 3 months nearly 4, I've never gone more than a day I think... I reckon that'll be the toughest challenge of them all, no fags, aaaaagghhh!!!!!
Keep it up.
L&BW.
Your trip sounds just like what mines gonna be. I'm actually feeling better in myself today, don't know if it's coz we're heading off, maybe a bit of everything. I have some valium, zimmers and dalmane for the journey which I'll pop just before I jump in the taxi.. It'd be just me to fall into a comatose state in the back of the taxi and miss my flight, only joking, my other half wouldn't let that happen.. I'm just soooo looking forward to it, just the two of us, nice clean heads on our shoulders, it'll be good, I can feel it in my bones...
We're gonna try and do some skiing, head to Sierra Nevada for maybe a day or two and see how we get on.. If skating on Ice Skates is anything to go by I'll be a disaster, I can't stand up straight on the blessed things, give me roller skates anytime, four wheels are definitely better than just one thin blade.... And to make matters worse, I look like the Mitchellin Man in my ski suit, hee hee.... We'll have to hire a suit out for Kev so he'll probably end up looking like the real professional and to make matters worse he's one of these that's good at most things he does so he'll end up showing me up either way..
I'm really gonna miss the computer when I'm away I'll have to take more time out and sit in the Internet Cafess for a while.
Oh yeah, more news, nicorette gum and patches are coming on the trip with us.. Not only are we clean but we're going to try and give up the old fags too... Kev managed it before for 3 months nearly 4, I've never gone more than a day I think... I reckon that'll be the toughest challenge of them all, no fags, aaaaagghhh!!!!!
Keep it up.
L&BW.
Hi Lou, don't try and take on too much at once. It's admirable that you want to give up the smokes, but I'd try and get the heroin sorted first if I were you. Mind you, foreign fags always seem to be stronger than what we get here. I know that when I was fresh off the gear in South Africa, I couldn't stomach their cigarettes. One puff and I'd get a rush of nausea...
But have a great time, it will do you the world of good! And I don't know about you, but when I was newly clean, I was as horny as a jack rabbit. We went on holiday in May, when I'd been off the subs for about 2 months. We were shagging 4 times a day, and I came back pregnant, so be warned!!!
love
Diff xxx
But have a great time, it will do you the world of good! And I don't know about you, but when I was newly clean, I was as horny as a jack rabbit. We went on holiday in May, when I'd been off the subs for about 2 months. We were shagging 4 times a day, and I came back pregnant, so be warned!!!
love
Diff xxx
Lou..nearly there...girl..just wanted to say good luck&have a great time over in Spain&try and post if you can ...coz i want that week in Spain.L.O.L.mind yerself&will be thinking of you having a clean time away from all the temptations.As ever take care.........Davey
Yeah Lou, drop us line if you can, if for no other reason than to makes us all jealous. I'd like a nice holiday in Spain, but right now I think I'm more suited to the frozen wastelands of the Artic, coz I'm about the size of a polar bear. My mother cheered me up no end when she Skyped me from South Africa last night and asked how I was. Fat, I told her. Well, she said, you're going to get a lot fatter yet my dear!". Cheers mum, like I really needed to hear that! How much fatter can a girl get in 8 weeks? I guess I'll find out...
love
Diff xxx
ps Do polar bears live in the arctic? I always get them mixed up with penguins...
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Diff xxx
ps Do polar bears live in the arctic? I always get them mixed up with penguins...
Aah Diff,
You've only 8 weeks left, bet that's going to be the longest 8 weeks of your life.. Rolling from one side to the other, constantly. Been there, mind you it's a long time ago, 18 years ago and that's a whole other storey, but I remember it well still. I just felt so large and cumbersom, I thought it woluld never end.
But lucky, lucky you! You're briging a little bundle of joy into the world! May they have the smile you have when you've just seen them for the first time, many, many times over.
You've only 8 weeks left, bet that's going to be the longest 8 weeks of your life.. Rolling from one side to the other, constantly. Been there, mind you it's a long time ago, 18 years ago and that's a whole other storey, but I remember it well still. I just felt so large and cumbersom, I thought it woluld never end.
But lucky, lucky you! You're briging a little bundle of joy into the world! May they have the smile you have when you've just seen them for the first time, many, many times over.
Hi
Diff a far reaching policy well here in Liverpool we have like no policy.
There are no drug workers as such unless you've got children and you're assigned one to help you keep you kids. There is one clinic 15,000 users and it's a drop in so you get yourself there see a councillor maybe a doctor and start on a meth program. Then you get an appointment once a month for a 5 minute visit and urine test. Not sure how this works as most people seem to use as well and still get their script - daily from a chemist taken on site but if you're on amps- injectible methadone then you can collect it and take it off site each day but everyone has to collect by 1pm which seems to mess anyone up who needs to work as chemists don't open until 9am and if you're going to one in a bad area the queue is huge.
And detox don't start me on detox centres, awful really really the pits I'm sure prison is a better option.
Jack you guys over there deserve better I think there is no recognition for the fact that you're functioning and contributing to your economy. I have a friend who went to Canada from NY to get clean it cost her but also saved her an awful lot of money.
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Man been clean 4 whole days that's big for him the sleep thing is driving me nuts his big problem seems to be after being an addict for 20yrs that he has no hobbies or interests or anything and if he's not going to be an addict anymore then who is he he doesn't seem to know who he is - if that makes any sense.
Diff a far reaching policy well here in Liverpool we have like no policy.
There are no drug workers as such unless you've got children and you're assigned one to help you keep you kids. There is one clinic 15,000 users and it's a drop in so you get yourself there see a councillor maybe a doctor and start on a meth program. Then you get an appointment once a month for a 5 minute visit and urine test. Not sure how this works as most people seem to use as well and still get their script - daily from a chemist taken on site but if you're on amps- injectible methadone then you can collect it and take it off site each day but everyone has to collect by 1pm which seems to mess anyone up who needs to work as chemists don't open until 9am and if you're going to one in a bad area the queue is huge.
And detox don't start me on detox centres, awful really really the pits I'm sure prison is a better option.
Jack you guys over there deserve better I think there is no recognition for the fact that you're functioning and contributing to your economy. I have a friend who went to Canada from NY to get clean it cost her but also saved her an awful lot of money.
k
Man been clean 4 whole days that's big for him the sleep thing is driving me nuts his big problem seems to be after being an addict for 20yrs that he has no hobbies or interests or anything and if he's not going to be an addict anymore then who is he he doesn't seem to know who he is - if that makes any sense.
