I'm new to all this so bear with me please! I've been a user for the past 4 maybe 5 years with non use periods of only 5 - 6 days or less within that time. I've got my hands on some meth and my plan is to start taking it on Monday and going to Cyprus on Friday. I don't wanna bring any with me to Cyprus but amn't sure whether we'll be ok (we being me and my b'friend). I reckon we'll be ok by Friday - anyone out there have any advise on the subject.
Our flight is at 9am on Friday, shud I try and bring sum thru wit me r wud that be stupid.
We really wanna giv this crap up and I reckon this might work.
I'd appreciate any suggestions!!
Thanks - Lou.
..Itwomey..
..How much heroin was ya using and how much meth are ya thinking of using aswell..i would,nt take a chance on bringing any meth thru with ya..you need a doctors letter to give you permission to carry medication abroad and as meth is an opiate aswell..you may cause yaself sum problems if ya get stopped carrying it thru with ya..you,ll definately get nicked if you get stopped with it if it has,nt been prescribed for ya by a doctor..Robbie..
..How much heroin was ya using and how much meth are ya thinking of using aswell..i would,nt take a chance on bringing any meth thru with ya..you need a doctors letter to give you permission to carry medication abroad and as meth is an opiate aswell..you may cause yaself sum problems if ya get stopped carrying it thru with ya..you,ll definately get nicked if you get stopped with it if it has,nt been prescribed for ya by a doctor..Robbie..
Hey, thanx for replying.... I'm smoking up to half an eighth a day and I've got about 200mils in the fridge ... if I start Monday with the mills and don't use any of the other crap I shud be ok... how will I be over there though... I think it's the only way I'm gonna get away from it all... I can buy over the counter crap in the chemist in Cyprus if I'm feeling rough.. what ya think?
Lou.
Lou.
..Lou..
..this sites about honesty so im gonna be honest with ya..if your smoking a 16th a day..your gonna need at least 70-80mls of meth to combat the w/ds from the brown..for one..you ain,t got enough meth to taper off..and another..you,ll be on such high dosage that your gonna be feeling really rough for a good few days after the meth has gone..i dunno wot you can get over the counter in cyprus to ease your withdrawals..but i would prepare myself for a rough ride once your meth has gone..as the withdrawals will be quite bad..don,t wanna scare ya cos thats probably not wot ya wanna hear..but its a fact of addiction..hope things work out better than wot i described..Robbie..
..this sites about honesty so im gonna be honest with ya..if your smoking a 16th a day..your gonna need at least 70-80mls of meth to combat the w/ds from the brown..for one..you ain,t got enough meth to taper off..and another..you,ll be on such high dosage that your gonna be feeling really rough for a good few days after the meth has gone..i dunno wot you can get over the counter in cyprus to ease your withdrawals..but i would prepare myself for a rough ride once your meth has gone..as the withdrawals will be quite bad..don,t wanna scare ya cos thats probably not wot ya wanna hear..but its a fact of addiction..hope things work out better than wot i described..Robbie..
Robbie.. honesty is wot I need.. I really, really wanna get off this crap tho, so if it means a few rough days so be it.. I keep telling myself that it can't be any worse than a really bad flu..
wot's ure status, r do u mind me asking dat? .. this is the first time I've used a message board so I'm not too sure wot I can ask and wot I can't ask.. it's good to talk to people who understand what I'm on about tho... my family haven't got a clue, it's jus me and my b'friend... like all users I'm good at hiding things from friends and family..
I'm not into 'rehab' I'd rather do it myself ... I'm gonna give it a go, a serious go this time...
by the way.. 'Happy Birthday' and thanx for the advice...
Lou..
wot's ure status, r do u mind me asking dat? .. this is the first time I've used a message board so I'm not too sure wot I can ask and wot I can't ask.. it's good to talk to people who understand what I'm on about tho... my family haven't got a clue, it's jus me and my b'friend... like all users I'm good at hiding things from friends and family..
I'm not into 'rehab' I'd rather do it myself ... I'm gonna give it a go, a serious go this time...
by the way.. 'Happy Birthday' and thanx for the advice...
Lou..
As Robbie said you and your b/f are in for a rough few weeks. I went c/t from 35ml of meth (which is not a great amount, approx to a bag) and it was terrible. The first day was not to bad but by day three I thought I was going to die!
I don't think you will benefit anything from taking the meth you have. In my oppion meth w/d is worse than w/d from smack. Really think twice about going abroad to w/d. Don't know if holiday insurance would cover you if you need a doctor.
Give rehab a go, if it REALLY doesn't work then at least you can say you have tried.
Good luck and look after yourselves.
I don't think you will benefit anything from taking the meth you have. In my oppion meth w/d is worse than w/d from smack. Really think twice about going abroad to w/d. Don't know if holiday insurance would cover you if you need a doctor.
Give rehab a go, if it REALLY doesn't work then at least you can say you have tried.
Good luck and look after yourselves.
..Lou..
..yep..really bad flu plus a bit more on top..cos of the amount your using it will be worse then sumone with a small habit..but the w/ds won,t last forever lou..and you,ll feel a better person for getting clean..while your waiting to go on holiday aswell..why don,t you get sum over the counter meds from the chemist..to help with ya sleep and ease the w/ds a bit..you can ask wot ya want on here..the ppl on here are good ppl..just trying to get on with life without addiction controling their life..i suppose if sumone don,t wanna answer a question then they,re ok about it..they,re just tll ya in a nice way they don,t wanna answer.lol..i,ve been clean since mid december..i was on it 11 yrs..i have my good and bad days..just like everyone i reckon mate..i know wot ya mean having to hide your addiction from ya family..but you,ve made a good choice by coming on here..this site has helped me stay clean with all the support and help i,ve got of ppl on here..so anything ya wanna ask..just ask away lou..good luck with you and your b/f getting off the brown..and have a wonder down to the chemist to see wot meds you can get to ease ya w/ds..thxs for the birthday shout aswell..lets us know how you get on lou..take care..Robbie..
..yep..really bad flu plus a bit more on top..cos of the amount your using it will be worse then sumone with a small habit..but the w/ds won,t last forever lou..and you,ll feel a better person for getting clean..while your waiting to go on holiday aswell..why don,t you get sum over the counter meds from the chemist..to help with ya sleep and ease the w/ds a bit..you can ask wot ya want on here..the ppl on here are good ppl..just trying to get on with life without addiction controling their life..i suppose if sumone don,t wanna answer a question then they,re ok about it..they,re just tll ya in a nice way they don,t wanna answer.lol..i,ve been clean since mid december..i was on it 11 yrs..i have my good and bad days..just like everyone i reckon mate..i know wot ya mean having to hide your addiction from ya family..but you,ve made a good choice by coming on here..this site has helped me stay clean with all the support and help i,ve got of ppl on here..so anything ya wanna ask..just ask away lou..good luck with you and your b/f getting off the brown..and have a wonder down to the chemist to see wot meds you can get to ease ya w/ds..thxs for the birthday shout aswell..lets us know how you get on lou..take care..Robbie..
U're quite a positive person by the sounds of it.. and I reckon that's a big, big help with getting clean.. I'm defo gonna give the chemist a visit and stock up on all the over the counter stuff that I can.. Customs won't know wot's going on wen they go thru my bags.. they'll think just another hypocondriac I suppose..
the place we're going to in Cyprus is really, really quiet which is just what we need, loads of r & r to get thru it.. we'll be the only people wit goosebumps in 90degree heat.. we've gone for self catering accomodation so at least we can eat wen we want, sleep in wen we want and just generally keep ourselves to ourselves if we want..
we're planning on throwing our mobiles in the river before we go too.. that'll be all our dealers numbers gone - we're gonna get new phones then & pg we'll keep them free of numbers that we shudn't have, if you know wot I mean...
I know wot you mean about this site, I've never really felt comfortable at NA meetings, I've only ever been to 3 or 4 so I suppose you could say that I've not given them a chance, but I know me and I know that they're not the way to go for me.. I'm really glad I stumbled upon this site, this can be my NA meeting!
thanx for the positive thinking and good luck wishes..
Lou.
the place we're going to in Cyprus is really, really quiet which is just what we need, loads of r & r to get thru it.. we'll be the only people wit goosebumps in 90degree heat.. we've gone for self catering accomodation so at least we can eat wen we want, sleep in wen we want and just generally keep ourselves to ourselves if we want..
we're planning on throwing our mobiles in the river before we go too.. that'll be all our dealers numbers gone - we're gonna get new phones then & pg we'll keep them free of numbers that we shudn't have, if you know wot I mean...
I know wot you mean about this site, I've never really felt comfortable at NA meetings, I've only ever been to 3 or 4 so I suppose you could say that I've not given them a chance, but I know me and I know that they're not the way to go for me.. I'm really glad I stumbled upon this site, this can be my NA meeting!
thanx for the positive thinking and good luck wishes..
Lou.
alright twomey..as rob said if uv been chasing a teenth a day over the last cple of yrs,u have got big enough habit,200ml,2feel any way ok yer gonna have 2 start on at least 60ml 4 the 1st day &maybe cut down by 10ml a day,its gonna be rough coz ok,by day 4/5 the smack is gone[physically]but then u have still got the meth in yer system.dont bring any meth with u if u havnt got solid proof its yours.by the sounds of it u need a slower reduction coz u r gonna feel rough on holiday,dunno about chemists in cyprus is there any chance your docter might give u some df118s? u could come of the gear with the meth then on holiday taper off slowley with the df118s.best of luck....davey
hi davey.. I wonder wud my GP give me DF's.. he know's about my habit but has never been very helpful.. I managed to get the mils from someone I know.. I suppose it's worth a try, all he can say is no, I've nothing to lose I suppose.. thanx for the tip.. I'll give the ol GP a visit and explain wot I'm doing and ask him if he'd give me a prescription...
Lou...
Lou...
as u say he can only say no,even a few valium &sleepers wld take the edge off.also the meth has ahalf life of 24hrs,so if u took your last sip of meth on fri. morn. it should hold u till sunday am. again best of luck&keep us posted on the weeks meth reduction....davey
sorry Lou,i meant sat.am on the holding front not sun c u ...davey
davey... certainly will keep u posted.. in fact you'll probably be bored with my whinging.. I'm gonna try the doc on Tuesday so I'll let you know how I get on and what (if anything) he gives me.. u any experience with online pharmacies.. if I cud buy online - but then I'd have no paperwork to say that they're prescribed to me.. just thinking outloud..
thanx anyway and as I said I will keep u posted...
Lou....
thanx anyway and as I said I will keep u posted...
Lou....
Hi
I am sort of in the same boat, Have be taken smack for about 5 years now, and for about the last 3 years I have been fighting a losing battle trying to get of the stuff, and this year has been the worst as I have been trying around every 3 months.
It is better to do it on holiday's as the heat helps, if your not going to take the meth with you, take pain killers lots, tale lots of immodium (they help the withdrawels) and am trying to think, what else you should take to help u.
Cold Turkey is not a nice thing on holiday, try and bring something you can do to pass the time, the nights are longer on holidays, so are the days, but the heat will help.
When I was in spain, they sold 30mil codeine and 500mil paracetamol, which help me get though it, but a could tell you a good story.
Went to tennerife for 2 weeks, was smoking about nearly the same as you and toke two 8th with us (me and my girlfriend) and about 50mil of meth, once we finished the kit, we tried to come down of the meth, felt like cold turkey of the smack but not to bad, then come the 5th day I said to the girlfriend that was'nt to bad.
Well another night with very little sleep, and the next morn we stated withdrawin again, only this time it was a heavey cold turkey. for 4 days then we we'rnt to bad.
Don't know if u should take the meth. A think i would babes.
Best of luck love, my prays are with you.
Geoff
p.s I have am down to 20mil meth, but a have to by it of the streets.
I am sort of in the same boat, Have be taken smack for about 5 years now, and for about the last 3 years I have been fighting a losing battle trying to get of the stuff, and this year has been the worst as I have been trying around every 3 months.
It is better to do it on holiday's as the heat helps, if your not going to take the meth with you, take pain killers lots, tale lots of immodium (they help the withdrawels) and am trying to think, what else you should take to help u.
Cold Turkey is not a nice thing on holiday, try and bring something you can do to pass the time, the nights are longer on holidays, so are the days, but the heat will help.
When I was in spain, they sold 30mil codeine and 500mil paracetamol, which help me get though it, but a could tell you a good story.
Went to tennerife for 2 weeks, was smoking about nearly the same as you and toke two 8th with us (me and my girlfriend) and about 50mil of meth, once we finished the kit, we tried to come down of the meth, felt like cold turkey of the smack but not to bad, then come the 5th day I said to the girlfriend that was'nt to bad.
Well another night with very little sleep, and the next morn we stated withdrawin again, only this time it was a heavey cold turkey. for 4 days then we we'rnt to bad.
Don't know if u should take the meth. A think i would babes.
Best of luck love, my prays are with you.
Geoff
p.s I have am down to 20mil meth, but a have to by it of the streets.
hey everyone.....justto the newcomer, my story is my dad is a RECOVERING herion addict. he was clean for 16 years, and then started again. he was using up to 30 bags a day was rx suboxone and misused the hell out of it!!!! he had to start buyuing it off the streeet. he is 52 by the ay. anyways, i was suppose to take him to detox and he had a minor heart attack, im 26 and a medical asst, so i knew what was going on. i took him to detox and he stayed fpr 7 days, he has been clean since june 1 2006. they told him while he ws in deetox u can use suboxone or methasdone taper ......he chose methadone t aper, and it worked, when he got out it was still in his system and he felt like he ad the flu for 2 days, but happy to say, he goes to IOP 3 days a week plus aa meetings, he hates NA meetings. the Heart attack kinda of woke him up cause he almost died!!!!
so my prayers are with you.....good luck you can do it
nikki c
so my prayers are with you.....good luck you can do it
nikki c
Geoff & Nikki - thanx for the good luck wishes and the prayers.. I only stumbled upon this site today and have never felt such support before... I went to see an addiction counsellor on and off for a couple of years and during those couple of years I never felt like I had her support, I was just one of her stats that she would add up at the end of the week... If I didn't do it her way, there was no way, if you know wot I mean..
Have either of you heard of Nalbuphine ampoules? Apparently you can buy it online only I'm not sure whether it would help me.. Anyway I don't think I've enough time between now and Friday to order it online and get it delivered...
I think I"ll just keep positive and as you said lots of immodium and whatever over the counter stuff they sell in Cyprus... Spain is great, you don't need prescriptions for loads of stuff that you need a prescription here in Ireland for..
I forgot today was fathers day and am slightly in despair as my father would be devastated to see what my life is like now.. he was such a good guy, lived life on the straight and narrow and just wanted the best for me, my sister and of course my mum, his wife and love of his life.. he passed away when I was 15 and I caused him a lot of despair I think before he died.. I started getting into trouble and rebelling from a very young age....
my mum passed away last July 25th, I can't believe it's nearly a year ago, it feels like only two weeks ago that I found her... I'm just grateful that she didn't have a clue about my habit.. in fact I think she thought I was doing well... working away and 'staying in' with my bf.. little did she know wot all the staying in woz about...
I've lost touch with so many people through my 'staying in' ... that's one of the things that I am looking forward to so much when I'm clean, waking up in the morning and feeling good about it, wanting to go out for a walk along the beach with the dogs.. instead of waking up sick, not being able to go anywhere without my 'crutch'... first thought in the morning is my top drawer beside the bed and god help me if the drawer is empty, then it's a real panic, coz dressing and making myself look respectable enough to go out takes a good few lines for me...
normal, whatever normal is, is where I want to be at.. and you know what I'm gonna do it this time... I'll finish on that positive note....
nite, nite... till tomorrow..
Lou....
Have either of you heard of Nalbuphine ampoules? Apparently you can buy it online only I'm not sure whether it would help me.. Anyway I don't think I've enough time between now and Friday to order it online and get it delivered...
I think I"ll just keep positive and as you said lots of immodium and whatever over the counter stuff they sell in Cyprus... Spain is great, you don't need prescriptions for loads of stuff that you need a prescription here in Ireland for..
I forgot today was fathers day and am slightly in despair as my father would be devastated to see what my life is like now.. he was such a good guy, lived life on the straight and narrow and just wanted the best for me, my sister and of course my mum, his wife and love of his life.. he passed away when I was 15 and I caused him a lot of despair I think before he died.. I started getting into trouble and rebelling from a very young age....
my mum passed away last July 25th, I can't believe it's nearly a year ago, it feels like only two weeks ago that I found her... I'm just grateful that she didn't have a clue about my habit.. in fact I think she thought I was doing well... working away and 'staying in' with my bf.. little did she know wot all the staying in woz about...
I've lost touch with so many people through my 'staying in' ... that's one of the things that I am looking forward to so much when I'm clean, waking up in the morning and feeling good about it, wanting to go out for a walk along the beach with the dogs.. instead of waking up sick, not being able to go anywhere without my 'crutch'... first thought in the morning is my top drawer beside the bed and god help me if the drawer is empty, then it's a real panic, coz dressing and making myself look respectable enough to go out takes a good few lines for me...
normal, whatever normal is, is where I want to be at.. and you know what I'm gonna do it this time... I'll finish on that positive note....
nite, nite... till tomorrow..
Lou....
Alright Lou Babes,
You know thats what I love about this site, I have no 1 to talk to about my problems on the gear, and it's so great to be able to talk to people that have the same goal, I know I have been on gear and on meth for the last 5 year, sometimes I would think is there no way out.
Sorry to here about your mum and dad, my dad past away 2 months before I was born, so I never new how it felt to have a father, but my mum was bril, and she down all she could 4 us.
It's mad Lou how much I relate to your sorry, if we get to know each other abit better, I'm sure you will here mine, mad as it is, you know I always convince myself that It's me thats the victim in all this and "how the hell did I get myself into this mess.
Good to see your from Ireland, so do I, near the top in fact, and up here it's abit no no, get the knee's done in if you know what a mean. My family know nothing about my prob, and it's funny how you can hide such a serious illness for so long, in fact everyone thinks I doing brilliant, aw look at geoff working hard doing well for himself, nice house nice life.
Little do they know, my shady underworld, my dark little secret. On a break now and have to go back to work soon, but a really understand want ur going through and hope to chat some more. So if am not back on later will be home from work at about 17:30 Gmt.
Really hope u are about then. Keep posting
Lots of love
Geoff
P.s Am down to 15mil today, feel abit rough but hope a can handle it. XXX
You know thats what I love about this site, I have no 1 to talk to about my problems on the gear, and it's so great to be able to talk to people that have the same goal, I know I have been on gear and on meth for the last 5 year, sometimes I would think is there no way out.
Sorry to here about your mum and dad, my dad past away 2 months before I was born, so I never new how it felt to have a father, but my mum was bril, and she down all she could 4 us.
It's mad Lou how much I relate to your sorry, if we get to know each other abit better, I'm sure you will here mine, mad as it is, you know I always convince myself that It's me thats the victim in all this and "how the hell did I get myself into this mess.
Good to see your from Ireland, so do I, near the top in fact, and up here it's abit no no, get the knee's done in if you know what a mean. My family know nothing about my prob, and it's funny how you can hide such a serious illness for so long, in fact everyone thinks I doing brilliant, aw look at geoff working hard doing well for himself, nice house nice life.
Little do they know, my shady underworld, my dark little secret. On a break now and have to go back to work soon, but a really understand want ur going through and hope to chat some more. So if am not back on later will be home from work at about 17:30 Gmt.
Really hope u are about then. Keep posting
Lots of love
Geoff
P.s Am down to 15mil today, feel abit rough but hope a can handle it. XXX
Hey Geoff,
Gud to hear from you! Today is day number 1 for me...
I haven't taken any mils yet I'm gonna wait till about lunch time and then I'll do about 30 mills and see how that holds me.. I was meant to go shopping with my sister this morning to buy some stuff for the hols but just couldn't face it.. I think I'll just chill out today and see how I get on.. I'm hoping to get some more meth later on today and am seriously thinking of taking some with me on hols with me.. If I can get through today I know that I'll be in better form tomorrow to face the world...
I've been out sick from work for the past two months.. no doubt I'll lose my job soon.. my cert ran out yesterday and I should be ringing in this morning but I've run out of excuses and just don't wanna talk to them anymore.. it's something that I'm gonna have to do though... after I've posted this message I'll work up the courage to ring in and say that I'm not coming in, don't know what I'm gonna say though..
Ure down to 15mils... man that is excellent... keep it up.. wen did you last use? Wouldn't it be great to just drop everything and start up again somewhere where there was no drugs, no crap.... if you find out where that place is let me know..
You're probably gone back from your break so I'll sign off and talk to ya later....
Keep it up Geoff, you know you can...
Lou....
Gud to hear from you! Today is day number 1 for me...
I haven't taken any mils yet I'm gonna wait till about lunch time and then I'll do about 30 mills and see how that holds me.. I was meant to go shopping with my sister this morning to buy some stuff for the hols but just couldn't face it.. I think I'll just chill out today and see how I get on.. I'm hoping to get some more meth later on today and am seriously thinking of taking some with me on hols with me.. If I can get through today I know that I'll be in better form tomorrow to face the world...
I've been out sick from work for the past two months.. no doubt I'll lose my job soon.. my cert ran out yesterday and I should be ringing in this morning but I've run out of excuses and just don't wanna talk to them anymore.. it's something that I'm gonna have to do though... after I've posted this message I'll work up the courage to ring in and say that I'm not coming in, don't know what I'm gonna say though..
Ure down to 15mils... man that is excellent... keep it up.. wen did you last use? Wouldn't it be great to just drop everything and start up again somewhere where there was no drugs, no crap.... if you find out where that place is let me know..
You're probably gone back from your break so I'll sign off and talk to ya later....
Keep it up Geoff, you know you can...
Lou....
A wrote another message to you before a went back to work, a wonder were it went to.
Hey Geoff,
I last used last nite.. We got a 1/2 an eighth between us... finished smoking that at about 12 last nite so I'm beginning to feel it a bit now.. when I've finished writing this I'm gonna take some mils..
I worked up the courage to ring work, did the usual, just not feeling great, tried to make my way to them but got a bit of a panic attack on the way so just turned around and came home.. I'll go to my GP later on today or tomorrow.. he's never been much use to me really... he knows about my habit but doesn't prescribe anything for me.. so I'm in a similar boat.. buying my meth of a someone I know who let me tell you is not the most reliable..
that's a pain in the a** having to drive all the way down to Bally'er to get your stuff.. if I cud get my hands on a 500ml bottle I'd be clean, clean, clean... I find it quite hard to get meth as I said my source isn't the most reliable.. wen he want's me to do something for him he'll get me some but otherwise...
I'm gonna give him a call today to see if he can get his hands on some more for me.. stick it in a night nurse bottle or something similar and bring it through with me....
my addiction counsellor used to tell me to go for a walk when I get a craving, when I'm on a come down, I can't walk up the stairs for f***s sake.. the thoughts of having to get dressed today is even killing me.. I just wanna sit on my sofa and watch tv all day.. but I'm gonna have to go out, my plan for today is to do my mls, have a few drinks and pop a few dolly's, that'll be day number 1 over with and tomorrow I'll feel alot better.. I've done it that way before so no reason why it shudn't work for me this time...
I'll keep you posted as to how I'm doing..
Talk later.
l&bw.
Lou.
I last used last nite.. We got a 1/2 an eighth between us... finished smoking that at about 12 last nite so I'm beginning to feel it a bit now.. when I've finished writing this I'm gonna take some mils..
I worked up the courage to ring work, did the usual, just not feeling great, tried to make my way to them but got a bit of a panic attack on the way so just turned around and came home.. I'll go to my GP later on today or tomorrow.. he's never been much use to me really... he knows about my habit but doesn't prescribe anything for me.. so I'm in a similar boat.. buying my meth of a someone I know who let me tell you is not the most reliable..
that's a pain in the a** having to drive all the way down to Bally'er to get your stuff.. if I cud get my hands on a 500ml bottle I'd be clean, clean, clean... I find it quite hard to get meth as I said my source isn't the most reliable.. wen he want's me to do something for him he'll get me some but otherwise...
I'm gonna give him a call today to see if he can get his hands on some more for me.. stick it in a night nurse bottle or something similar and bring it through with me....
my addiction counsellor used to tell me to go for a walk when I get a craving, when I'm on a come down, I can't walk up the stairs for f***s sake.. the thoughts of having to get dressed today is even killing me.. I just wanna sit on my sofa and watch tv all day.. but I'm gonna have to go out, my plan for today is to do my mls, have a few drinks and pop a few dolly's, that'll be day number 1 over with and tomorrow I'll feel alot better.. I've done it that way before so no reason why it shudn't work for me this time...
I'll keep you posted as to how I'm doing..
Talk later.
l&bw.
Lou.