Gina,
That is so true.. about anxiety killing the joy. For example... Sunday mornings, I'm half killing myself to get the three girls and myself (and Jeff.. shhh) , ready for church. In addition, I have to cook breakfast and .. well, you know the drill. I get so anxious and worked up, that after we're all in the car and on our way, I have to roll my eyes at myself. I find myself doing that whenever I feel pressured to meet a deadline. Maybe I should work on my organizational skills. That would probably help immensely... LOL
DeNae
Maybe I should work on my organizational skills.
...or you could simplify -- though I'm not sure how.
I don't know how you do it DeNae. If I had to get breakfast, myself, three girls and one husband ready, on a weekly basis to go to a church my parents attend, I would be a candidate for the looney bin, lol.
On Sundays, at the sensible hour of 1 p.m., the boys, Allan and I meet with our yoga teacher. It's our family's spiritual practice. We basically show up in our pajamas. On the weekends the boys get their own breakfast of Special K -- but my children are older than yours (and they know better than to call my mother to rat on me, LMAO. I told Allan what your girls did that morning you slept in. I laugh, but it would have been such a trigger for me.)
...or you could simplify -- though I'm not sure how.
I don't know how you do it DeNae. If I had to get breakfast, myself, three girls and one husband ready, on a weekly basis to go to a church my parents attend, I would be a candidate for the looney bin, lol.
On Sundays, at the sensible hour of 1 p.m., the boys, Allan and I meet with our yoga teacher. It's our family's spiritual practice. We basically show up in our pajamas. On the weekends the boys get their own breakfast of Special K -- but my children are older than yours (and they know better than to call my mother to rat on me, LMAO. I told Allan what your girls did that morning you slept in. I laugh, but it would have been such a trigger for me.)
LMAO Gina... yeah, its funny now, but on that particular morning, I wanted to duct tape my kids to the wall and then go rip my mother a new one. I have since, solved that problem. It will never happen again. On friday night, Jeff and I unplug all of the phones, except for the one in our bedroom, and they stay unplugged until Sunday night. The one in our bedroom is a cordless phone, and I keep it under my pillow. When they get old enough to figure out how to plug the phone back in, then I will remove the entire phone...LOL
Sunday's at yoga sounds delightful. I bought a beginners yoga DVD, and tried it, but for some reason, I couldn't seem to master those positions...LOL... although, I'm sure Jeff would love it, if I could.
Sunday's at yoga sounds delightful. I bought a beginners yoga DVD, and tried it, but for some reason, I couldn't seem to master those positions...LOL... although, I'm sure Jeff would love it, if I could.
I took some training once and they asked me which would you rather do die being right or die making a difference? It was so true. I realized being right really wasn't all that important. I just had to let it go. There was a much larger picture in the scheme of things than my being right.
Yoga, it's a good good thing. I had one person since my accident who worked with me a little and he was able to work with my body using postures which I could do without my legs and yet I could still feel the energetic part of the process run through my entire body. What a wonderful feeling! Good for the mind and body.
I'm not able to write much tonite. I have Yuki and Portuguese running through my brain and I'm a bit overwhelmed with fatigue from not being able to sleep the past couple of nights but if I get a second wind I'll breeze back in.
This has been a fun thread. Thanks for letting me get to know you guys better..
love,
pm
Yoga, it's a good good thing. I had one person since my accident who worked with me a little and he was able to work with my body using postures which I could do without my legs and yet I could still feel the energetic part of the process run through my entire body. What a wonderful feeling! Good for the mind and body.
I'm not able to write much tonite. I have Yuki and Portuguese running through my brain and I'm a bit overwhelmed with fatigue from not being able to sleep the past couple of nights but if I get a second wind I'll breeze back in.
This has been a fun thread. Thanks for letting me get to know you guys better..
love,
pm
Hiya,
Well, I just got back from my boys friends Bar Mitzvah. Its funny the way G-d (as they referred to Him at the synagogue) visits unexpectedly. The rabbi told a story about a king who had a son, upon whom he showered all sorts of gifts and the necessities of life. Then he noticed that the son never called, never wrote, never came home for the holidays. So, being a clever father, the king started withdrawing some of the gifts, didnt send the birthday shekels, forgot to pay the sons mortgage. And guess what? The son came home and visited with his father, the king. Then things went back to the way they were before the king gave his son everything he needed to live a happy life. Only this time, the son never forgot to stay in touch with his father.
And the moral of this story intended for a bunch of 14 year-old boys, but it spoke to me as well was a lesson in gratitude. Ive been wondering why all the ills and woes of my life had to happen as they did. The rabbi said G-d gives us trials so that we will develop a relationship with Him. If it had been a perfect life, Id never have had any reason to phone home. Just something to think about
It was a lovely ceremony. I cried most of the moms did, lol. All the little boys had grown up so much in our one year away. Some of them, including my son, are taller than me now and most of their voices had cracked. If this is the way I am at a Bar Mitzvah, Im going to be a basketcase at their weddings, lol.
DeNae, Unplugging the phone. Good plan. Caller ID is one of life's necessities.
Amy, What kind of training was that? It sounds fascinating. I agree. It would be a pretty barren existence being right all the time and never making a difference.
Hope you all have been having a lovely Saturday.
Love,
Gina
Well, I just got back from my boys friends Bar Mitzvah. Its funny the way G-d (as they referred to Him at the synagogue) visits unexpectedly. The rabbi told a story about a king who had a son, upon whom he showered all sorts of gifts and the necessities of life. Then he noticed that the son never called, never wrote, never came home for the holidays. So, being a clever father, the king started withdrawing some of the gifts, didnt send the birthday shekels, forgot to pay the sons mortgage. And guess what? The son came home and visited with his father, the king. Then things went back to the way they were before the king gave his son everything he needed to live a happy life. Only this time, the son never forgot to stay in touch with his father.
And the moral of this story intended for a bunch of 14 year-old boys, but it spoke to me as well was a lesson in gratitude. Ive been wondering why all the ills and woes of my life had to happen as they did. The rabbi said G-d gives us trials so that we will develop a relationship with Him. If it had been a perfect life, Id never have had any reason to phone home. Just something to think about
It was a lovely ceremony. I cried most of the moms did, lol. All the little boys had grown up so much in our one year away. Some of them, including my son, are taller than me now and most of their voices had cracked. If this is the way I am at a Bar Mitzvah, Im going to be a basketcase at their weddings, lol.
DeNae, Unplugging the phone. Good plan. Caller ID is one of life's necessities.
Amy, What kind of training was that? It sounds fascinating. I agree. It would be a pretty barren existence being right all the time and never making a difference.
Hope you all have been having a lovely Saturday.
Love,
Gina
Hope I'm not jumping in. Just going to read for a while and wanted to say these are the threads of a recovery board, the ones I want to shoot for.
All smart women, discussing e'thing in a very intelligent, yet lots of fun stuff, too diescussed.
I so want to be a part of these threads, I will work harder to be, I know it's my choice.
Love,
Jean
All smart women, discussing e'thing in a very intelligent, yet lots of fun stuff, too diescussed.
I so want to be a part of these threads, I will work harder to be, I know it's my choice.
Love,
Jean
Gina,
I did alot of the trainings by Landmark Education. Lt's see I started with The Forum, then The Advanced Forum, Self Expression and Leadership, Communication I, II, then I got burned out and stopped. I think I did about 6 seminars anywhere from money to sex. lol. I was invited to consider the forum leaders program but back in the day I just got too overloaded and the marketing thing really was something I did not agree with. However, the work they do is fantastic and they have it for teens and I have watched teens in trouble really pull it together. Teens on drugs, come clean. It's amazing. Expensive but life changing. I have been round the block on those kind of things and then into spiritual groups of different types. Finally, found my own walk and am more comfortable. But boy oh boy have I worn alot of hats finding my way around and been across the planet to check things out. It's been a beautiful experience and I would not have changed a thing. I am fortunate to have been able to do what I have done and to see that we have to find that part inside ourselves and a way to wake up that flame because in the end it is what sustains us when all else falls apart. Sometimes even now I still have to be reminded and find new ways.
I use to use drugs to ride that wave into the realm of peace and what I thought was superconsciousness. Then the next day I would be slammed so hard I felt awful for days. I knew that I would kill myself doing that. I didn't use them often. I realized that what I was doing with the plant really was not real but plant induced and while it expanded me I had to find that expansion another way. So one day I decided I had enough and began the search for inner peace in other ways. Clarity became the way. It's been a journey.
Opa puppy wants to go out!
love,
pm
I did alot of the trainings by Landmark Education. Lt's see I started with The Forum, then The Advanced Forum, Self Expression and Leadership, Communication I, II, then I got burned out and stopped. I think I did about 6 seminars anywhere from money to sex. lol. I was invited to consider the forum leaders program but back in the day I just got too overloaded and the marketing thing really was something I did not agree with. However, the work they do is fantastic and they have it for teens and I have watched teens in trouble really pull it together. Teens on drugs, come clean. It's amazing. Expensive but life changing. I have been round the block on those kind of things and then into spiritual groups of different types. Finally, found my own walk and am more comfortable. But boy oh boy have I worn alot of hats finding my way around and been across the planet to check things out. It's been a beautiful experience and I would not have changed a thing. I am fortunate to have been able to do what I have done and to see that we have to find that part inside ourselves and a way to wake up that flame because in the end it is what sustains us when all else falls apart. Sometimes even now I still have to be reminded and find new ways.
I use to use drugs to ride that wave into the realm of peace and what I thought was superconsciousness. Then the next day I would be slammed so hard I felt awful for days. I knew that I would kill myself doing that. I didn't use them often. I realized that what I was doing with the plant really was not real but plant induced and while it expanded me I had to find that expansion another way. So one day I decided I had enough and began the search for inner peace in other ways. Clarity became the way. It's been a journey.
Opa puppy wants to go out!
love,
pm
Oh Jean, jump in any time. Any thread with my name on it generally turns into a free-for-all, and I wouldnt have it any other way (lol, how many threads have touched on both geishas and rabbis? And Im sure we talked recovery somewhere along the way)
Amy, You wrote: "But boy oh boy have I worn alot of hats finding my way around and been across the planet to check things out. It's been a beautiful experience and I would not have changed a thing.
You know, I have spent so much of my time looking for the destination and not paying a speck of attention to the journey. I read somewhere that from the point of view of human perception, the universe is destroyed and remade every second, that past and future exist only in our minds and that the only thing we can really be sure of is Now.
There was something about seeing all the children today, on the cusp of manhood. I had wanted so badly to have three children and one of them a girl. My drug use started after surgery to correct reproductive problems (I am not good breeding stock) and then really took off after I had to have the hysterectomy. I wasted a lot of the journey with my boys, being ill, being in the hospital, looking for that third child, that girl. My yoga teacher adopted a beautiful little girl from China last year. LMAO Allan just said hes too old to do nappies all over again.
I know what you mean about thinking being stoned was "superconsciousness." I remember the times I went to the studio high as a kite and felt like Yoga Goddess. Except the truth is, I can't really remember the actual sessions well at all. There's no point in being superconscious and then having amnesia.
DeNae, I think that any way you do the yoga forms is perfect, for you. Mastery simply doesn't happen. LOL, yes, Allan is very appreciative of how bendy I am...
Love, Gina
Amy, You wrote: "But boy oh boy have I worn alot of hats finding my way around and been across the planet to check things out. It's been a beautiful experience and I would not have changed a thing.
You know, I have spent so much of my time looking for the destination and not paying a speck of attention to the journey. I read somewhere that from the point of view of human perception, the universe is destroyed and remade every second, that past and future exist only in our minds and that the only thing we can really be sure of is Now.
There was something about seeing all the children today, on the cusp of manhood. I had wanted so badly to have three children and one of them a girl. My drug use started after surgery to correct reproductive problems (I am not good breeding stock) and then really took off after I had to have the hysterectomy. I wasted a lot of the journey with my boys, being ill, being in the hospital, looking for that third child, that girl. My yoga teacher adopted a beautiful little girl from China last year. LMAO Allan just said hes too old to do nappies all over again.
I know what you mean about thinking being stoned was "superconsciousness." I remember the times I went to the studio high as a kite and felt like Yoga Goddess. Except the truth is, I can't really remember the actual sessions well at all. There's no point in being superconscious and then having amnesia.
DeNae, I think that any way you do the yoga forms is perfect, for you. Mastery simply doesn't happen. LOL, yes, Allan is very appreciative of how bendy I am...
Love, Gina
DeNae,
I still can't get the picture of kids duct taped to the wall out of my mind. Too funny. I see them all lined up begging to get off the wall.
Jean,
Your welcome here anytime. We just got on some kinds of roll here and anyone is welcome to jump in.
Gina,
I imagine it's pretty neat watching kids grow up. I can imagine it well as I have a lot of friends with kids. I think that age is pretty cool. I think about adopting sometimes but first I have to have redirected life than where I am now and who knows I may defy the odds and have a healthier life than I've had as I move into more "mature" years. If not, it's all okay the way it is. I accept my life w/o regrets.
Superconsciousness and amnesia really do not seem to go well together I''m afraid. See I remembered everything. It was so incredible. I took some pretty high quality plant substances in those days. However, I was smart enough to know I was on a drug. So what good was that if I could not create it in the here and now? It was almost frustrating.
I had a near death experience once not r/t any drugs and in that moment I had sort of the same feeling and I realized a lot of things. Mostly that life is truly here and now. That nothing else really matters. After I knew that what I really wanted to overshadow the moments of my life was acceptance, peace, clarity, contentment, and being fully in the present moment as well as being clear and complete with everyone around me so that when it is my time to take my last breath here I will have filled myself and others with the best I know how. I don't have change the world, to even change another but maybe I can just be a breath of peace for another. I use to think I had to change the world. Now I realize I just have to keep myself in peace and in doing so it tends to help those who it does on it's own.
Okay so I have to keep cleaning but it is fun to take these little breaks.
love,
pm
I still can't get the picture of kids duct taped to the wall out of my mind. Too funny. I see them all lined up begging to get off the wall.
Jean,
Your welcome here anytime. We just got on some kinds of roll here and anyone is welcome to jump in.
Gina,
I imagine it's pretty neat watching kids grow up. I can imagine it well as I have a lot of friends with kids. I think that age is pretty cool. I think about adopting sometimes but first I have to have redirected life than where I am now and who knows I may defy the odds and have a healthier life than I've had as I move into more "mature" years. If not, it's all okay the way it is. I accept my life w/o regrets.
Superconsciousness and amnesia really do not seem to go well together I''m afraid. See I remembered everything. It was so incredible. I took some pretty high quality plant substances in those days. However, I was smart enough to know I was on a drug. So what good was that if I could not create it in the here and now? It was almost frustrating.
I had a near death experience once not r/t any drugs and in that moment I had sort of the same feeling and I realized a lot of things. Mostly that life is truly here and now. That nothing else really matters. After I knew that what I really wanted to overshadow the moments of my life was acceptance, peace, clarity, contentment, and being fully in the present moment as well as being clear and complete with everyone around me so that when it is my time to take my last breath here I will have filled myself and others with the best I know how. I don't have change the world, to even change another but maybe I can just be a breath of peace for another. I use to think I had to change the world. Now I realize I just have to keep myself in peace and in doing so it tends to help those who it does on it's own.
Okay so I have to keep cleaning but it is fun to take these little breaks.
love,
pm
Thanks Gina:
I know you may get tired of "the thanks" I keep saying to you but when I first started, I tried to follow your lead. You are younger than I am so I can call you a wise woman and it doesn't make you sound old (joke) I so wish I had even asked you before some of my emails and postings.
I know that's not the way it works, I need to find my own way, this has been my first board so I was really green.
This thread with Gina, Kat, Denae, and PM is filled with smart, level headed women. There are more on the board, I just love this thread so I would love to ask a question.
I didn't have good experiences with N/A meetings. As big as our area has gotten, the ones I tried were AA and NA together and there were mostly male alcoholics there and they mostly talked about how much they missed drinking.
Pills were never mentioned. So I stopped trying.
Gina, I have told you about our Church starting a recovery night for prescription drugs.
I really applaud the person who first came forward with this. My son has told me that when he first found out about me, he went to our Pastor and they prayed for me. I haven't even done that much outside of the house.
So, needless to say, I'm going to these meetings, the first one is tomorrow night.
Do y'all think this will suffice as a meeting? I am doing nothing else for my recovery except this board which I love but I read on the board that this is not enough.
Also, going to get another referral for a therapist. I need to know more about myself, would like to find out why I became an addict 2 times. I have other issues that the right therapist could help me. I tried one therapist but we just didn't click. To get so personal with someone, I know e'one thinks I'm outgoing but in person, I am shy until I get to know someone, then I do talk. My middle son is more like I am. We never want to be the center of attention. So I need to find the right person to tell "everything" I can really talk on this board but I have the safety of the computer 'til I feel I get to know someone.
That's it, just wondered what you thought about the meetings at Church.
Thanks in advance for you advice - do you think this will be enough?
Love, Jean
I know you may get tired of "the thanks" I keep saying to you but when I first started, I tried to follow your lead. You are younger than I am so I can call you a wise woman and it doesn't make you sound old (joke) I so wish I had even asked you before some of my emails and postings.
I know that's not the way it works, I need to find my own way, this has been my first board so I was really green.
This thread with Gina, Kat, Denae, and PM is filled with smart, level headed women. There are more on the board, I just love this thread so I would love to ask a question.
I didn't have good experiences with N/A meetings. As big as our area has gotten, the ones I tried were AA and NA together and there were mostly male alcoholics there and they mostly talked about how much they missed drinking.
Pills were never mentioned. So I stopped trying.
Gina, I have told you about our Church starting a recovery night for prescription drugs.
I really applaud the person who first came forward with this. My son has told me that when he first found out about me, he went to our Pastor and they prayed for me. I haven't even done that much outside of the house.
So, needless to say, I'm going to these meetings, the first one is tomorrow night.
Do y'all think this will suffice as a meeting? I am doing nothing else for my recovery except this board which I love but I read on the board that this is not enough.
Also, going to get another referral for a therapist. I need to know more about myself, would like to find out why I became an addict 2 times. I have other issues that the right therapist could help me. I tried one therapist but we just didn't click. To get so personal with someone, I know e'one thinks I'm outgoing but in person, I am shy until I get to know someone, then I do talk. My middle son is more like I am. We never want to be the center of attention. So I need to find the right person to tell "everything" I can really talk on this board but I have the safety of the computer 'til I feel I get to know someone.
That's it, just wondered what you thought about the meetings at Church.
Thanks in advance for you advice - do you think this will be enough?
Love, Jean
Hey Jean,
You know I think only you will be able to answer that when you go and you see how the meetings go. You will know. There are many ways people make it in recovery. The most important thing we have to do is take an honest assessment of how we are doing and get the help we need. Whatever it takes. It will take awhile before these meetings get up and running but it sounds like it may be just the thing and a very positive experience. So I say wait and see, give it a chance. You are doing what you can. Finding a new therapist is a good idea and it takes time to build trust and also patience. I had a therapist once. I thought man I could have her on the couch! I thought I knew more. lol. And I did not want to really work with her. But I stuck it out and I gave it a chance and you know she ended up really helping me. I didn't know it all after all. So be patient. Sometimes it takes time for things to fall into place. Just don't give up. It might be enough and you are going to know once you start. I'm not one who can really give you the answer.
I hope it goes real well for you.
love,
pm
You know I think only you will be able to answer that when you go and you see how the meetings go. You will know. There are many ways people make it in recovery. The most important thing we have to do is take an honest assessment of how we are doing and get the help we need. Whatever it takes. It will take awhile before these meetings get up and running but it sounds like it may be just the thing and a very positive experience. So I say wait and see, give it a chance. You are doing what you can. Finding a new therapist is a good idea and it takes time to build trust and also patience. I had a therapist once. I thought man I could have her on the couch! I thought I knew more. lol. And I did not want to really work with her. But I stuck it out and I gave it a chance and you know she ended up really helping me. I didn't know it all after all. So be patient. Sometimes it takes time for things to fall into place. Just don't give up. It might be enough and you are going to know once you start. I'm not one who can really give you the answer.
I hope it goes real well for you.
love,
pm
On Sundays, at the sensible hour of 1 p.m., the boys, Allan and I meet with our yoga teacher. It's our family's spiritual practice. We basically show up in our pajamas.
This is what it is really about...I think, Gina, when you are there, then this is your gift.
We used to host alot of the Landmark groups where I used to work. It was neat to get to talk and meet some of the people during their stay. Sometimes, people can say a few words, and I can learn quite a bit.
I enjoyed reading this thread. Attraction, not promotion.
Kerry
This is what it is really about...I think, Gina, when you are there, then this is your gift.
We used to host alot of the Landmark groups where I used to work. It was neat to get to talk and meet some of the people during their stay. Sometimes, people can say a few words, and I can learn quite a bit.
I enjoyed reading this thread. Attraction, not promotion.
Kerry
Hey Kerry,
It's good to see ya. How are things going? Yeah at LM we had a whole language. But when I did those gps I sure got alot done and I have some of the best friends still from there back in IN. Wouldn't trade them for the world. I have been to some of the gp stuff out here but haven't bonded like I did back there.
I am sure not wanting to finish cleaning today.
lol
love,
pm
It's good to see ya. How are things going? Yeah at LM we had a whole language. But when I did those gps I sure got alot done and I have some of the best friends still from there back in IN. Wouldn't trade them for the world. I have been to some of the gp stuff out here but haven't bonded like I did back there.
I am sure not wanting to finish cleaning today.
lol
love,
pm
Cleaning, oh yeah. I do quite abit of that, although you can't tell.....lol.
Things are good here.....there is quite a peace that has come now that I don't have to back to that job. I do get afraid of financial things, but I do believe that there is something, like you said, so much bigger coming. My real purpose....not just driving people around. LOL.
I would love to go to school full time, and be a mom at night. So, we shall see.
How is the city life going? And the PT?
Peace.
Kerry
Things are good here.....there is quite a peace that has come now that I don't have to back to that job. I do get afraid of financial things, but I do believe that there is something, like you said, so much bigger coming. My real purpose....not just driving people around. LOL.
I would love to go to school full time, and be a mom at night. So, we shall see.
How is the city life going? And the PT?
Peace.
Kerry
Kerry,
City life is so much better for me. Things here at my fingertips. I have a busy life. PT is a bear. But I am getting stronger. I re-introduced myself to lap swimming again last week. Felt so good. I love water! Only went once but saw I can do it. So I'll be going more. I can't believe how busy I am. The worst thing about living in the city is dragging myself back and forth to bf's house. Throws off the entire rhythm I get going during the wk. I really am looking at that and there is a bigger picture for me too. (smile)
I'm going to be having knee surgery on 12/7. Wanna go see family first and my old ortho doc in IN. So I'm preparing for all that. And Yuki is scheduled for spay on the 7th of Nov. One mo. prior to mine. Oh boy. We are busy!
I'm trying to lighten my load here. I just sold my ATV and trailer. Am going to the mtns. tonite to go prepare it for it's new home. The good news it's one of my best friend's so if I ever want to go riding I still can. Gave it to her at a good price. I now have to let go of things so I can be free to go when I get ready. It's sort of like a new phase I'm going through. Have a feeling I am going to be foot loose and fancy free in the coming years.
If only I knew what to do with my old RV. The frame is cracked and so only a welder would really want it or someone not minding the $1800 to fix it. An ''86 Toyota Dolphin. Was alot of fun but need to let go let go let go! So that's about it in my corner here.
love,
pm
City life is so much better for me. Things here at my fingertips. I have a busy life. PT is a bear. But I am getting stronger. I re-introduced myself to lap swimming again last week. Felt so good. I love water! Only went once but saw I can do it. So I'll be going more. I can't believe how busy I am. The worst thing about living in the city is dragging myself back and forth to bf's house. Throws off the entire rhythm I get going during the wk. I really am looking at that and there is a bigger picture for me too. (smile)
I'm going to be having knee surgery on 12/7. Wanna go see family first and my old ortho doc in IN. So I'm preparing for all that. And Yuki is scheduled for spay on the 7th of Nov. One mo. prior to mine. Oh boy. We are busy!
I'm trying to lighten my load here. I just sold my ATV and trailer. Am going to the mtns. tonite to go prepare it for it's new home. The good news it's one of my best friend's so if I ever want to go riding I still can. Gave it to her at a good price. I now have to let go of things so I can be free to go when I get ready. It's sort of like a new phase I'm going through. Have a feeling I am going to be foot loose and fancy free in the coming years.
If only I knew what to do with my old RV. The frame is cracked and so only a welder would really want it or someone not minding the $1800 to fix it. An ''86 Toyota Dolphin. Was alot of fun but need to let go let go let go! So that's about it in my corner here.
love,
pm
Hello Ladies.. I'm glad to see this thread is still kicking.
It has been a good day here. My house is clean, my football team won, and supper is cooked. It doesn't take much to make me happy...LOL My kids just got back from a day at their grandparents and now I have to reprogram them..(just kidding/not really)..
PM, I Ioved your post about your journey and keeping the flame alive. Very good stuff.
Gina, Sounds like you had a good day. I've always wondered what it would be like to have a boy. I never had a problem getting pregnant.. I had problems carrying them. Oh, and if you ever get the hankering, I'll send you a few girls..LOL
BeckyJean, feel free to jump in anytime. I think therapy is a great idea. I used to think it was bull crap, but boy, was I wrong.
Kerry.. I haven't talked to you lately, but I have been keeping up with your posts. I agree with you.. there is something bigger in the works, for you.
I have to start making costumes for this Character Book Report. I have to make a butterfly, a cat, and an Egg. I see a lot of poster board and magic markers in my immediate future. I'll catch up with you gals later. Have a good night.
DeNae
It has been a good day here. My house is clean, my football team won, and supper is cooked. It doesn't take much to make me happy...LOL My kids just got back from a day at their grandparents and now I have to reprogram them..(just kidding/not really)..
PM, I Ioved your post about your journey and keeping the flame alive. Very good stuff.
Gina, Sounds like you had a good day. I've always wondered what it would be like to have a boy. I never had a problem getting pregnant.. I had problems carrying them. Oh, and if you ever get the hankering, I'll send you a few girls..LOL
BeckyJean, feel free to jump in anytime. I think therapy is a great idea. I used to think it was bull crap, but boy, was I wrong.
Kerry.. I haven't talked to you lately, but I have been keeping up with your posts. I agree with you.. there is something bigger in the works, for you.
I have to start making costumes for this Character Book Report. I have to make a butterfly, a cat, and an Egg. I see a lot of poster board and magic markers in my immediate future. I'll catch up with you gals later. Have a good night.
DeNae
Dear Pm:
Just a tip that workred for me -
First, I'm sorry you need knee surgery but with mine, the 1st doctor told me to build up as much muscle in that leg around that knee as possible. He said to just get a pillow case and put (2) 5# bags of sugar in it, tie it up. Sit down, make sure that sugar is equal on both sides. Place it over the top of my knee and lift - start slow and do more every day. Well, didn't do it and took longer to get better. Did it and water aerobics before other 2 surgeries and I was up and back to work within a week - I even drove b/c my left knee is the bad one. The doctor said that's why athlete's can go right back to playing ball after knee surgery.
Yours may be more seriuos, mine were Arthroscopic. My cartilage just breaks off and floats around, has gotten stuck between tendons (very painful) and they have to go in and remove. The last time, the doctor said I had so little cartilage, I wouldn't need anymore surgery til time for knee replacement.
Another thing - This one level house has helped my knees so much.
That is a big deal. Do you have stairs? The first doctor who did surgery told me to move - we were in a tri-level and had only been there about a year. I told him we had to wait for it to appreciate and he said I was choosing money over my health. We stayed there 9 nine years and I fell up and down the stairs and all 3 surgeries while there - one every 3 years.
So, didn't mean to get carried away - just wanted you to know what really helped me - exercising before surgery - as much as possible and a one level house.
I have not fallen at all in this house and my knee has only hurt once for less than a week.
Hope this helps. I hope your surgery goes well.
Love, Jean
Just a tip that workred for me -
First, I'm sorry you need knee surgery but with mine, the 1st doctor told me to build up as much muscle in that leg around that knee as possible. He said to just get a pillow case and put (2) 5# bags of sugar in it, tie it up. Sit down, make sure that sugar is equal on both sides. Place it over the top of my knee and lift - start slow and do more every day. Well, didn't do it and took longer to get better. Did it and water aerobics before other 2 surgeries and I was up and back to work within a week - I even drove b/c my left knee is the bad one. The doctor said that's why athlete's can go right back to playing ball after knee surgery.
Yours may be more seriuos, mine were Arthroscopic. My cartilage just breaks off and floats around, has gotten stuck between tendons (very painful) and they have to go in and remove. The last time, the doctor said I had so little cartilage, I wouldn't need anymore surgery til time for knee replacement.
Another thing - This one level house has helped my knees so much.
That is a big deal. Do you have stairs? The first doctor who did surgery told me to move - we were in a tri-level and had only been there about a year. I told him we had to wait for it to appreciate and he said I was choosing money over my health. We stayed there 9 nine years and I fell up and down the stairs and all 3 surgeries while there - one every 3 years.
So, didn't mean to get carried away - just wanted you to know what really helped me - exercising before surgery - as much as possible and a one level house.
I have not fallen at all in this house and my knee has only hurt once for less than a week.
Hope this helps. I hope your surgery goes well.
Love, Jean
Dear Denae:
I want to trick or treat at your house on Halloween.
I think you really get into this for the children but I have a feeling that you enjoy it just as much. Sounds like so much fun.
We have been invited to our son and his wife's house for dinner.
They live in a neighborhood where they have quite a few trick or treaters so it's fun.
I love to see the little ones dressed up.
I had to go to Petsmart to get some rawhide bones for my boys to chew on -
if not, they chew on the furniture.
I looked at dogs Halloween costumes and they were $29.95
I am not that crazy. I told my d-in-law and she said they were only $9.95 at Wal-Mart - if 2.95 I might consider. They will be home alone anyway. Not taking them trick or treating. I just looked at the ones at Petsmart b/c they wre cute and out of curiousity.
This is a no-sleeper - I was afraid of that. The good news about my cousin is so - well, it's a miracle but sometimes good news keeps me up just like pain, I guess I get wired up and my aunt asked me to call e'one which it's fun to call with such good news. He was almost gone, the doctors were saying to expect the worse and he woke up from the coma.
My s-in-law said it in a good way "God is good"
Yes, He is.
Love you, talk with you later.
Love, Becky Jean
I want to trick or treat at your house on Halloween.
I think you really get into this for the children but I have a feeling that you enjoy it just as much. Sounds like so much fun.
We have been invited to our son and his wife's house for dinner.
They live in a neighborhood where they have quite a few trick or treaters so it's fun.
I love to see the little ones dressed up.
I had to go to Petsmart to get some rawhide bones for my boys to chew on -
if not, they chew on the furniture.
I looked at dogs Halloween costumes and they were $29.95
I am not that crazy. I told my d-in-law and she said they were only $9.95 at Wal-Mart - if 2.95 I might consider. They will be home alone anyway. Not taking them trick or treating. I just looked at the ones at Petsmart b/c they wre cute and out of curiousity.
This is a no-sleeper - I was afraid of that. The good news about my cousin is so - well, it's a miracle but sometimes good news keeps me up just like pain, I guess I get wired up and my aunt asked me to call e'one which it's fun to call with such good news. He was almost gone, the doctors were saying to expect the worse and he woke up from the coma.
My s-in-law said it in a good way "God is good"
Yes, He is.
Love you, talk with you later.
Love, Becky Jean
I was out last evening at the post-Bar Mitzvah party. Wow, it was huge. Catered, with live music at the local children's museum. The boys had a great time -- had the run of the place to themselves and played hide and seek in the exhibits. I congratulated the mom on the success of the evening and she put her arms around me and hissed, "Do you know how hard it was to find a venue where you can entertain 20 14 year old boys AND a bunch of 85 year old Jews?" LMAO!!! I need to cultivate this woman -- I'm sure I used to avoid her because I was stoned all the time.
Amy wrote: I use to think I had to change the world. Now I realize I just have to keep myself in peace
I come from two families of government officials (three generations on the losing side, starting with the last emperor, lol) and was raised to think that changing the world was the only thing that mattered. Keeping anything in peace was an alien concept to most of my relatives -- who would have happily nuked anything in their way if they had had WMDs. I guess I was always the odd one out. I went to a Quaker college. Kind of threw my grandfather, the army officer and summary executioner for a loop. I try not to let them rent space in my head anymore (formerly being the slumlord of Chinese dysfunctional families, lol). It's a lot roomier in here now. Hmmm, did I just say I'm empty-headed?
DeNae, I'm doing pumpkins and LOTR costumes today. Pippin's going to be Pippin, and Aidan is Boromir (my two favorite characters, too). When are your girls going trick or treating -- tonight or tomorrow? Or both?
Jean, I think the recovery group at your church sounds like a great idea. I hope it works out for you and I hope you find a good therapist. Ask your sanest friend who they see. That's how I found Dr. M. But interview several before making your decision. Be upfront with the therapists you interview. If you tell them why you don't think you can develop a trust relationship with one, the good therapists will refer you to someone they think might be a better fit. F2F support is essential for me. This board isn't enough support.
Kerry, It's good to see you and I'm so glad school is going well. I'm sure financial help will turn up somehow. You were one of the people who helped me get back to a God of my understanding when I first joined this board. Turn this one over to your HP. I know you're already doing the best you can and after that, all you can do is ask for help.
Has anyone seen Kat or Boo? And WHY did you have to mention CLEANING?
Love, Gina
Amy wrote: I use to think I had to change the world. Now I realize I just have to keep myself in peace
I come from two families of government officials (three generations on the losing side, starting with the last emperor, lol) and was raised to think that changing the world was the only thing that mattered. Keeping anything in peace was an alien concept to most of my relatives -- who would have happily nuked anything in their way if they had had WMDs. I guess I was always the odd one out. I went to a Quaker college. Kind of threw my grandfather, the army officer and summary executioner for a loop. I try not to let them rent space in my head anymore (formerly being the slumlord of Chinese dysfunctional families, lol). It's a lot roomier in here now. Hmmm, did I just say I'm empty-headed?
DeNae, I'm doing pumpkins and LOTR costumes today. Pippin's going to be Pippin, and Aidan is Boromir (my two favorite characters, too). When are your girls going trick or treating -- tonight or tomorrow? Or both?
Jean, I think the recovery group at your church sounds like a great idea. I hope it works out for you and I hope you find a good therapist. Ask your sanest friend who they see. That's how I found Dr. M. But interview several before making your decision. Be upfront with the therapists you interview. If you tell them why you don't think you can develop a trust relationship with one, the good therapists will refer you to someone they think might be a better fit. F2F support is essential for me. This board isn't enough support.
Kerry, It's good to see you and I'm so glad school is going well. I'm sure financial help will turn up somehow. You were one of the people who helped me get back to a God of my understanding when I first joined this board. Turn this one over to your HP. I know you're already doing the best you can and after that, all you can do is ask for help.
Has anyone seen Kat or Boo? And WHY did you have to mention CLEANING?
Love, Gina
Brook,
Is this the thread you were referring to?
Hope you had a nice weekend.
Cheers,
Gina
Is this the thread you were referring to?
Hope you had a nice weekend.
Cheers,
Gina
