The pain in my side was unbarable. They said you most likely have Kidney stones and the x-ray dosn't always catch it. We came back home about 11:30 And I took a pill to stop this pain before going to sleep. I don't feel guilty about it, I was in PAIN. I don't have any cravings for another, I don't want another one. The pain is less but not gone. My Doctor just called and is sending me in for an upper and lower G.I. this morning. I will let you guys know the outcome.
Gina
Prayers and hugs are with you today six.
Love,
Jane
Love,
Jane
It's too bad you didn't flush those pills Gina. Two ibuprophens work so much better than one vicodin. One vicodin to an addict is like swallowing a tic tac. I really hope that they figure out what's wrong so that you can start getting some relief. Good luck today.
I have kidney disease and cannot take ibruprofin. That is why I am always prescribed Vicodin. And only after having to go to urgent care did I take one.
Slave Im very sorry you are going through this.Im even MORE sorry that your being told to flush your pain pill.
Yes you may be an addict & so am I but Ill tell you when your in that much pain as I hear kidney stones can cause..I simple little asprin wont do
Sweety do what you need to just stay accountable for what you take,If you feel you cannot control your pill intake have someone hold them for you.Theres NO REASON to suffer if your pain is that much & NOBODY has a right to even attempt to try & make you feel bad about it.
Like I said just BE careful because abuse comes easy to those of us who are in true pain,.stay accountable & rest sweety.
I will say a prayer for you & I hope your feeling better soon.
Yes you may be an addict & so am I but Ill tell you when your in that much pain as I hear kidney stones can cause..I simple little asprin wont do
Sweety do what you need to just stay accountable for what you take,If you feel you cannot control your pill intake have someone hold them for you.Theres NO REASON to suffer if your pain is that much & NOBODY has a right to even attempt to try & make you feel bad about it.
Like I said just BE careful because abuse comes easy to those of us who are in true pain,.stay accountable & rest sweety.
I will say a prayer for you & I hope your feeling better soon.
Thank You molly for understanding and not making me feel worse while being in pain. I'm off to get my G.I. done right now.
Gina
Gina
Your welcome Gina & please let us know how you make out.Im pretty sure you have my addy if so you can write.
Dont sweat what others say or feel hun YOU know what you feel & what you need to do thats all that matters
Good Luck huny!!!
Molly
Dont sweat what others say or feel hun YOU know what you feel & what you need to do thats all that matters
Good Luck huny!!!
Molly
Gina...If you are in pain you have every right to take something to
relieve that pain and don't feel guilty about it..Just blow off the idiotic
advise to flush your medication that you obviously need..
Doug
relieve that pain and don't feel guilty about it..Just blow off the idiotic
advise to flush your medication that you obviously need..
Doug
I guess taking ibuprophen wouldn't be a good idea, but really, if you are in that much pain, does one vicodin help?
If you're looking for excuses, you've found the right people to give them to you.
Feel better.
If you're looking for excuses, you've found the right people to give them to you.
Feel better.
Excuse me..I don't see somebody making excuses to use..I see an addict
that is in real pain and somewhat afraid to take pain pills to alleviate that
pain..My advise would be to follow what your doctor orders and discount
some of the wacky advise to flush your meds and take them as prescribed
by your physician...
Doug
that is in real pain and somewhat afraid to take pain pills to alleviate that
pain..My advise would be to follow what your doctor orders and discount
some of the wacky advise to flush your meds and take them as prescribed
by your physician...
Doug
Just to clear something up....I have severe kidney stones and other renal problems due to Lupus...Ibuprofen is not good for the kidneys and the pain is unbearable......just be careful....vicodin has it's place...but one can get caught up(as we all know anyway) Please take care of yourself and feel better...LOTS of water and no calcium, vit. C or oxalates(spinach/beets until they know what the stones consist of...(((((Hugs))))) Love, Sharonn
S Yeah I have heard that things such as ice cream & milk & stuff like that can actually cause Kidney Stones!!! Believe it or not it was while I was watching a episode of ER.And something about this man drank tea everyday & ate ice cream each night & somehow it helped to make Kidney stones???
I just thought it was part of the show till I looked things up.
I hope Gina makes out ok,as you know those stones & just problems with your kidneys can be so very painful
Love s
I just thought it was part of the show till I looked things up.
I hope Gina makes out ok,as you know those stones & just problems with your kidneys can be so very painful
Love s
Hey Slave, I do hope whatever it is going on is resolved soon.
I do want to add, those in your other thread, and there were about 6-7 , one being an RN, who suggested that you flush your pills. I want to clarify, those that suggested this, are far from Idiots. They are people who have a ton of clean time behind them and are telling you what they did themselves or have extensive knowledge on.
Hindsight is 20/20, perhaps next time you could say to him/her, 'hey listen I am an addict', I do not need 100 pills or whatever the amount. If you have pain issues, so be it. You only need to answer for you. No one else.
You know what addiction consists of, nothing new here, follow your heart but use your head. And I do hope the pain goes away very soon.
I do want to add, those in your other thread, and there were about 6-7 , one being an RN, who suggested that you flush your pills. I want to clarify, those that suggested this, are far from Idiots. They are people who have a ton of clean time behind them and are telling you what they did themselves or have extensive knowledge on.
Hindsight is 20/20, perhaps next time you could say to him/her, 'hey listen I am an addict', I do not need 100 pills or whatever the amount. If you have pain issues, so be it. You only need to answer for you. No one else.
You know what addiction consists of, nothing new here, follow your heart but use your head. And I do hope the pain goes away very soon.
Slave. i have oodles of sympothy for you. i have been going through kidney failure for a few yeas now and i have stones regularly. but i do know how painful they are. and my doc kows i am a addict. . . so ib prophen is what he recomends. people have dif pain tolerence. . . i can handle the pain i bearly take vitimins . i didnt use pills for physical pain just emotional. so just hang in there be safe and do what you need to. im here if you need me. been there ! pants
Brooke & Lisa....I did alot of thinking on your comments in this post,& after much thought I just needed to say.....What I said to Gina was THE SAME THING that Lisa told me through my surgeries,& the hard times with my throat.
Be accountable.You shouldnt HAVE to suffer just be aware of your problem with pills.
So as far as YOUR comments I cannot control what you think.But I stand by what I believe.as long as gina is accountable for what she NEEDS to do to be without pain than she should.
Keep in mind I am in no way trying to start,as Im so beyond that.But I wanted to point out I got my advise from Lisa so I feel her comments were out of line.Why is it OK for her to say that to me yet NOT ok for me to say the same to anyone else.
I will not post anymore on your comments as this is GINAS thread & she was hurting & needing support.Not guilt.
I hope you both have a wonderful hoilday
molly
Be accountable.You shouldnt HAVE to suffer just be aware of your problem with pills.
So as far as YOUR comments I cannot control what you think.But I stand by what I believe.as long as gina is accountable for what she NEEDS to do to be without pain than she should.
Keep in mind I am in no way trying to start,as Im so beyond that.But I wanted to point out I got my advise from Lisa so I feel her comments were out of line.Why is it OK for her to say that to me yet NOT ok for me to say the same to anyone else.
I will not post anymore on your comments as this is GINAS thread & she was hurting & needing support.Not guilt.
I hope you both have a wonderful hoilday
molly
Slave-Hi! I don't think the dillema here is about taking a needed pain medication for legitimate pain.That is exactly what they are for.If you had to go to the ER last night because you were in pain,it's obvious it hurts.
I don't think any rational person is suggesting you suffer and just bite on a rag until the pain passes.
Here is the problem and please keep an open mind.I'm not trying to beat you up or make you feel guilty.I just want you to understand how easy it would be to relapse with this senario.
1.You have in your possession 100 Vicodin.
2.Your husband doesn't know you are an addict and you want him to hold your pills.He doesn't understand why you want him to?
3.You haven't told the doctor who gave you the Vicodin that you are an addict.
4.What did they say about the pain at the ER? How did they want to treat it?
Is there any way you can see how dangerous this is?
Is this the same doctor that prescribed you narcotics before?
If you are honest with your Doctor,I'm sure he would still treat the pain but I bet he wouldn't give you a 100 pills.He might even try some non-narcotic routes.Who knows? Give him a chance.
My only concern is that you can keep that 51/2 months.You can take pain meds without relapsing but all these parameters need to be in place to keep you honest.
Do you have to throw the pain meds away?
Absolutely not if you have taken all the precautions an addict must make in order not to relapse.
It's really the same as giving an alcoholic a fifth of whiskey and asking him to only take a shot every six hours.
Good Luck
I don't think any rational person is suggesting you suffer and just bite on a rag until the pain passes.
Here is the problem and please keep an open mind.I'm not trying to beat you up or make you feel guilty.I just want you to understand how easy it would be to relapse with this senario.
1.You have in your possession 100 Vicodin.
2.Your husband doesn't know you are an addict and you want him to hold your pills.He doesn't understand why you want him to?
3.You haven't told the doctor who gave you the Vicodin that you are an addict.
4.What did they say about the pain at the ER? How did they want to treat it?
Is there any way you can see how dangerous this is?
Is this the same doctor that prescribed you narcotics before?
If you are honest with your Doctor,I'm sure he would still treat the pain but I bet he wouldn't give you a 100 pills.He might even try some non-narcotic routes.Who knows? Give him a chance.
My only concern is that you can keep that 51/2 months.You can take pain meds without relapsing but all these parameters need to be in place to keep you honest.
Do you have to throw the pain meds away?
Absolutely not if you have taken all the precautions an addict must make in order not to relapse.
It's really the same as giving an alcoholic a fifth of whiskey and asking him to only take a shot every six hours.
Good Luck
Hi Tim How are you?
I suppose thats what I was saying to her when I said ...Be accountable.I know first hand how easy it can be to start abusing when you have legit pain.I remember after my last surgery...I still have shame over that but it happened & I corrected it.
Having legit pain & being an addict can be such a hard thing.Theres a fine line between usen & abusing.With that said however....I also realize that sometimes the need for pain relief can & is real.Thats why,with me I told my Dr after I relapsed...Put it right in my file....NO Ultram or oiates.That way if someone ever is covering for him THEY will know not to.
Ive learned if I do need something to either have my BF hold them or better yet let my mom hold them so they arent even here.Thankfully,though it doesnt give total relief the Suboxone does help alot as far as pain control.....
Oh I hope you have a nice hoilday if I dont talk with you.
molly
I suppose thats what I was saying to her when I said ...Be accountable.I know first hand how easy it can be to start abusing when you have legit pain.I remember after my last surgery...I still have shame over that but it happened & I corrected it.
Having legit pain & being an addict can be such a hard thing.Theres a fine line between usen & abusing.With that said however....I also realize that sometimes the need for pain relief can & is real.Thats why,with me I told my Dr after I relapsed...Put it right in my file....NO Ultram or oiates.That way if someone ever is covering for him THEY will know not to.
Ive learned if I do need something to either have my BF hold them or better yet let my mom hold them so they arent even here.Thankfully,though it doesnt give total relief the Suboxone does help alot as far as pain control.....
Oh I hope you have a nice hoilday if I dont talk with you.
molly
Thanks MJ...you too.
You don't have to be a martyr but it's dangerous territory.I would never have pain pills in my house but that's me.I would give them to my sponsor.He's the only one I wouldn't be able to con.I know as soon as even 1 Vicodin got into my bloodstream,I would be trying to figure out how to get more in there.
What worries me most about this particular situation is there seems to be some dishonesty involved.I'll let it go though.I'm not passing judgement,I just recognize the behavour.It's all too familiar.
I relapsed in 03 on pain meds doing this-
1.not informing my doctor that I was an addict.It wasn't as much about embarrasement as the fear of not getting enough.
2.Not telling my sponsor until after I got the meds.
3.Going to my meeting and seeking everyones permission to take the meds,which I got.I'm a consumate actor.
4.Getting way more than I needed because who knows where this pain was going?I wasn't meant to suffer LOL.
.Have a great day Molly and Slave!
You don't have to be a martyr but it's dangerous territory.I would never have pain pills in my house but that's me.I would give them to my sponsor.He's the only one I wouldn't be able to con.I know as soon as even 1 Vicodin got into my bloodstream,I would be trying to figure out how to get more in there.
What worries me most about this particular situation is there seems to be some dishonesty involved.I'll let it go though.I'm not passing judgement,I just recognize the behavour.It's all too familiar.
I relapsed in 03 on pain meds doing this-
1.not informing my doctor that I was an addict.It wasn't as much about embarrasement as the fear of not getting enough.
2.Not telling my sponsor until after I got the meds.
3.Going to my meeting and seeking everyones permission to take the meds,which I got.I'm a consumate actor.
4.Getting way more than I needed because who knows where this pain was going?I wasn't meant to suffer LOL.
.Have a great day Molly and Slave!
Im sorry...dishonesty???I dont understand....could you at least try to explain that alittle.I mean Im not being dishonest.but I dont think your referring to me.I guess Im just confused....
No.I'm not refering to you.
The dishonesty in the situation with the doctor and the 100 Vicodin.
The dishonesty in the situation with the doctor and the 100 Vicodin.
