Im not a true believer of god but to those of you who hurt today my your god heal your soul and give you the strength to remain in recovery. jaxxxxxxxx
Do you not believe in God or have you simply not found a Higher Power of your understanding. Just curious.
God Bless.
God Bless.
Too be honest wolf i guess i sure believe in something but not sure as to what if that makes sense jaxxxxxxx
you are not alone wacky.
I dont believe in the mainstream concept of god either.
I dont believe in the mainstream concept of god either.
I didn't either until about 6 months ago. It was being able to let go absolutly in recovery that I figured out most of this love/hate relationship I had with God. That and talking to Bish. His grace showed me things I hadn't thought of before.
It's all very personal and something I wouldn't even know how to share with someone. But I think that if you're thinking about it and questioning it, you're on the right track.
Cowgirl
It's all very personal and something I wouldn't even know how to share with someone. But I think that if you're thinking about it and questioning it, you're on the right track.
Cowgirl
Cg im so pleased you have found something that works for you as for religion and my honest personal veiw best left off board i think lmao jaxxxxx
Hiya shew im not sure if we have spoken before but welcome anyways jaxxxxxx
I do believe in God. However I choose to believe in a loving and forgiving God that wants nothing but the best for me. I know that for me being able to trust in something more powerful than I am and in fact more powerful than my addiction has been a huge help.
However this is my belief and what helps me in no way do I try and preach it is the only way.
God bless.
However this is my belief and what helps me in no way do I try and preach it is the only way.
God bless.
Hiya wolf your beliefs are yours and will certainly be respected by me hun im a people person i like everyone. hows your weekend going? jaxxxxx
I'm on the right side of the grass, I'm clean and so I am doing well.....you?
God bless.
God bless.
Hi Jackie and wolf....
Jackie, what are your views on God? I would really like to know. I'm in a learning process right now and need all the different opinions I can get.
Jackie, what are your views on God? I would really like to know. I'm in a learning process right now and need all the different opinions I can get.
Wolf,
You said you chose to believe in a loving an forgiving God that only wants the best for you. God is exactly that.
Lovebird
You said you chose to believe in a loving an forgiving God that only wants the best for you. God is exactly that.
Lovebird
I couldn't agree more Lovebird.
God bless.
God bless.
Hiya wolf yeah im free from taking my choice of pain pills on a level i could not contain after 20 long years of being so ignorant and in-balanced in my own mind. Im now doing better thx for asking hun. jaxxxxxxxxx
To hear stories of success does my heart good. I am honored you would share that portion of your story with me.
God bless.
God bless.
Lisa my views on God are my veiws only. I happen to think that just maybe their is someone out there that cares but im affraid i dont see it much. i would have so many question with reguards god.
1 why should i belelieve in you when you let people die?
2 Why would i trust you with my life?
3 If you love all good people then you love me right? so i go to heaven.
Now comes the inflamitory bit i make no apoligies to anone who believes this is only my view.
My firm belief is that many centurys ago religon was used as a form of control and is now out of control. Im happy in the knowlege that im a good person and what happens happens. As you may of gathered Lisa im not one for following anyone i do things my way i hate the way people become so consumed with what they are trying to say that they forget to be good and respectfull too. some quarters of religion can be too dominearing and pushy. If you read a story long enough you will believe it. You said something about letting yoruself go sorry if i mis-qoated you. But in my opinion what you did was become indoctrinated.
Just my view and i have lots more lmao have a good day jaxxxxxxxxx
I do know the answers that come up with my questions.
1 why should i belelieve in you when you let people die?
2 Why would i trust you with my life?
3 If you love all good people then you love me right? so i go to heaven.
Now comes the inflamitory bit i make no apoligies to anone who believes this is only my view.
My firm belief is that many centurys ago religon was used as a form of control and is now out of control. Im happy in the knowlege that im a good person and what happens happens. As you may of gathered Lisa im not one for following anyone i do things my way i hate the way people become so consumed with what they are trying to say that they forget to be good and respectfull too. some quarters of religion can be too dominearing and pushy. If you read a story long enough you will believe it. You said something about letting yoruself go sorry if i mis-qoated you. But in my opinion what you did was become indoctrinated.
Just my view and i have lots more lmao have a good day jaxxxxxxxxx
I do know the answers that come up with my questions.
I dont want to get into a theological debate. I believe that each person needs to find something stronger than themselves to find the power needed to battle this disease. I must, however, state a few things. Questions like Why would you let people die? well we have a population problem now can you imagine if no one died. Dying is not the end but rather the vessel that takes us to our reward.
It is like when someone asks How could God allow that train wreck or car crash There is such a thing as free will, I would rather have that than be a puppet that is told when he can and can not drive. It was either myself or the other person that caused the accident not God.
There is no doubt that certain religions have a bad reputation and even religions that have long practiced worthwhile endeavors have in their midst people who do wrong.
Are we to than say all religion and therefore God can not exist becasue he gave us free will and there are a few bad apples in a religion?
Consider war, many have claimed to be fighting in Gods name. Just by saying I am fighting in Gods name does not make it so.
I state this not to try and dissuade anyone but rather as a counterpoint to the views expresed just to ensure equal representation from different viewpoints.
In no way do I believe I have all the answers but I do know one thing. I have total faith in God, I am working towards total trust and in that I am finally finding something that is truly helping me in my recovery. All debates aside isnt that sufficient?
God bless.
It is like when someone asks How could God allow that train wreck or car crash There is such a thing as free will, I would rather have that than be a puppet that is told when he can and can not drive. It was either myself or the other person that caused the accident not God.
There is no doubt that certain religions have a bad reputation and even religions that have long practiced worthwhile endeavors have in their midst people who do wrong.
Are we to than say all religion and therefore God can not exist becasue he gave us free will and there are a few bad apples in a religion?
Consider war, many have claimed to be fighting in Gods name. Just by saying I am fighting in Gods name does not make it so.
I state this not to try and dissuade anyone but rather as a counterpoint to the views expresed just to ensure equal representation from different viewpoints.
In no way do I believe I have all the answers but I do know one thing. I have total faith in God, I am working towards total trust and in that I am finally finding something that is truly helping me in my recovery. All debates aside isnt that sufficient?
God bless.
Good post wolf thx healthy debate that is respectfull has far more meaning then just shouting. jaxxxxxx
I was told if you dont believe in the Christian concept of God that this can work to help you with your disease to have a HP of your understanding
G= Good
O=Orderly
D=Direction
G= Good
O=Orderly
D=Direction
Jackie,
I agree with you on most points. I had those questions myself for a very long time. I mean, how could this all powerful, loving god, let children die horrible, tragic deaths?
I'm beginning to understand now, well, not really but I'm finding some solace. I absolutly do not believe in religion. I agree whole heartedly with you that religion is out of control. But it's not a good idea to go any further with that.
Cowgirl
I agree with you on most points. I had those questions myself for a very long time. I mean, how could this all powerful, loving god, let children die horrible, tragic deaths?
I'm beginning to understand now, well, not really but I'm finding some solace. I absolutly do not believe in religion. I agree whole heartedly with you that religion is out of control. But it's not a good idea to go any further with that.
Cowgirl