Congratulations wendy on ur upcoming wedding!! i had to smile at ur comment!!! yes lets hope for third time lucky!!! :)
catcha lata, stay outta the heat, xoox
i was just reading up on remedies for ocd. and they said that "trazadone" really helps it alot and is an anti-depressant. i might ask my doctor about this.....anyone know or have any experiences with it.
i will check in for any posts again soon.
i will check in for any posts again soon.
Wendy, Congrats on your upcoming wedding. Your a better person than me don't know if I could do a number 3 or a number two. Men are to much work.(LOL)
Elvis, The reason I thought Wendys comment about a boyfriend was funny was because I thought she meant a man could bore someone to sleep so you wouldn't need the Ambien. Shantel
Elvis, The reason I thought Wendys comment about a boyfriend was funny was because I thought she meant a man could bore someone to sleep so you wouldn't need the Ambien. Shantel
oh....i get it now! haha good one! i would support this new drug called "man" to help women sleep lol. "non addictive, use whenever u like, use as many as u need in one go" lol sorry :)
Elvis Trazodone and seroquel are two meds I know addicts with trouble sleeping have had good results. Of course there are side effects.
I have tried both and currently have been on seroquel weaning down to 100mg .Started taking it in June 2004--side effects blood work needs to done 3-4 times a year. Obviously under a doctors supervision.
Ambien can become habit forming really quickly. More of a mental thing from what i have been told.
A addict like yourself should avoid ambien at all costs. JMO
Exercise eat right get out of the house and work and your sleep will come back just fine.
Elvis you always look for a pill to handle your issues. This is dangerous thinking for an addict. But I am repeating myself and will not respond after this post.
You know whats correct and what is not. And any doctor who understands addiction would never prescribe ambien due to its dangers.
Jeff
I have tried both and currently have been on seroquel weaning down to 100mg .Started taking it in June 2004--side effects blood work needs to done 3-4 times a year. Obviously under a doctors supervision.
Ambien can become habit forming really quickly. More of a mental thing from what i have been told.
A addict like yourself should avoid ambien at all costs. JMO
Exercise eat right get out of the house and work and your sleep will come back just fine.
Elvis you always look for a pill to handle your issues. This is dangerous thinking for an addict. But I am repeating myself and will not respond after this post.
You know whats correct and what is not. And any doctor who understands addiction would never prescribe ambien due to its dangers.
Jeff
thanks jeff. so trazodone is actually a sleeping agent too. well as far as ive looked, apparently we dont have it out here. at least my doctor has never heard of it and my pharmacist looked it up and couldnt find it....so its either under another name or we just dont have it. i originally thought it was just for helping ocd...which ill admit i dont really know if the anafranil is helping much!
i realise i have an issue with reaching for a pill for coping i was just saying about it on the other board....i was just saying .... i see the psychological part and understand i have that too. i totally understand about the psychological part of it all. i think with me...as far as examining the reason i feel i need even want my nan to have something down there even if i dont take it....which is not often (a valium, which shes told me she hardly even has any left)....i have always, as i grew up watching my mother, and sort of learnt or got it in my head that when ur stressed or cant cope u reach for a pill to help u. i know thats not the correct way of coping or at least certainly not the best way. i guess i have to unlearn or at least learn new coping strategies! i used to constantly ask my psych for new coping strategies but never really got anywhere, apart from telling me to count in my head?!?! i asked my nan, shes always told me, go for a walk, go into the toilet and scream even if u have to, put on some music....i guess i just have to learn these things better!! maybe even cry....ive learnt exercise helps, and it does a bit, lately ive been doing it. actually punching something helps me lol....i punched the hell out of a my bed and my pillows the other night and that helped a bit...i should get a punching bag....serious!!....actually my pa went out for a walk one night, he was upset about something, and he has parkinsons, well he didnt come back for over an hour. i ran down there, looked frantically for him (my nan was calmer than me, upset but calmer). i was crying and even called the police to go look for him....i was a wreck. we eventually found him ourself, i was shaking uncontrollably. and even my nan said that night "my god, u really have to learn how to cope with things better, u will need to cope with alot worse than this as u get older". and she gave me a cup of tea and calmed me down....i did i admit, ask for a valium but she said "no just give urself a good 5 minutes and ill talk to u", and that worked but..... how do u learn new coping strategies once ur older and stuck in a routine? just by practising over and over i guess?
i actually slept for the first time a bit last night without any stilnox (ambiem) and didnt have a nightmare for the first time without it! its taken a good 4-5 nights but i must of just been tired from not sleeping?! i still woke up with a headache....but oh well. im grateful for persisting with it though and for the help and advice from all u guys! so jeff i havent been taking the sleeping pill, im trying very hard to persist without any! i dont have any in the house right now, only a script which i have not filled.
take care
p.s jeff i agree that a really good informed gp, wouldnt give anything remotely like a benzo or addictive to an addict/ex-addict....unfortunately just in my opinion a "really good informed" gp is hard to find these days....so i guess we have to take on the responsibility ourselves....but i didnt learn this about ambiem (stilnox) until afterwards...i guess i will have to look everything up before even putting it in my mouth! (serious).
i realise i have an issue with reaching for a pill for coping i was just saying about it on the other board....i was just saying .... i see the psychological part and understand i have that too. i totally understand about the psychological part of it all. i think with me...as far as examining the reason i feel i need even want my nan to have something down there even if i dont take it....which is not often (a valium, which shes told me she hardly even has any left)....i have always, as i grew up watching my mother, and sort of learnt or got it in my head that when ur stressed or cant cope u reach for a pill to help u. i know thats not the correct way of coping or at least certainly not the best way. i guess i have to unlearn or at least learn new coping strategies! i used to constantly ask my psych for new coping strategies but never really got anywhere, apart from telling me to count in my head?!?! i asked my nan, shes always told me, go for a walk, go into the toilet and scream even if u have to, put on some music....i guess i just have to learn these things better!! maybe even cry....ive learnt exercise helps, and it does a bit, lately ive been doing it. actually punching something helps me lol....i punched the hell out of a my bed and my pillows the other night and that helped a bit...i should get a punching bag....serious!!....actually my pa went out for a walk one night, he was upset about something, and he has parkinsons, well he didnt come back for over an hour. i ran down there, looked frantically for him (my nan was calmer than me, upset but calmer). i was crying and even called the police to go look for him....i was a wreck. we eventually found him ourself, i was shaking uncontrollably. and even my nan said that night "my god, u really have to learn how to cope with things better, u will need to cope with alot worse than this as u get older". and she gave me a cup of tea and calmed me down....i did i admit, ask for a valium but she said "no just give urself a good 5 minutes and ill talk to u", and that worked but..... how do u learn new coping strategies once ur older and stuck in a routine? just by practising over and over i guess?
i actually slept for the first time a bit last night without any stilnox (ambiem) and didnt have a nightmare for the first time without it! its taken a good 4-5 nights but i must of just been tired from not sleeping?! i still woke up with a headache....but oh well. im grateful for persisting with it though and for the help and advice from all u guys! so jeff i havent been taking the sleeping pill, im trying very hard to persist without any! i dont have any in the house right now, only a script which i have not filled.
take care
p.s jeff i agree that a really good informed gp, wouldnt give anything remotely like a benzo or addictive to an addict/ex-addict....unfortunately just in my opinion a "really good informed" gp is hard to find these days....so i guess we have to take on the responsibility ourselves....but i didnt learn this about ambiem (stilnox) until afterwards...i guess i will have to look everything up before even putting it in my mouth! (serious).
Jeff, So we do agree on something.(LOL) Ambien is very dangerous and addictive. I had to learn that the hard way.Shantel
Elvis,
Please don't take offense, but you know very well what ambien/stilnox is. You have received a lot of advice about it, not to mention given plenty of advice about it. I could post 10+ more links if I had time. The bottom link is you telling someone how addictive it is, back in April of 05, nearly 2 years ago. If you search stilnox, there are pages of threads that come up, most all with your posts in them.
Now, you know I like you, and would never intentionally try to hurt your feelings. But, you are either in serious denial, or experiencing memory loss possibly bordering on amnesia. Regardless, yes it is addictive. Yes, it binds to your brain's benzo receptors. Yes, you should avoid it at all costs.
Have you tried rozerem/ramelton? Trazodone is an older AD that also helps with sleep. Both would be worth mentioning to your doctor.
http://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...3989&hl=stilnox
http://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...3365&hl=stilnox
http://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...4847&hl=stilnox
http://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...4847&hl=stilnoxhttp://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...4847&hl=stilnox
Please don't take offense, but you know very well what ambien/stilnox is. You have received a lot of advice about it, not to mention given plenty of advice about it. I could post 10+ more links if I had time. The bottom link is you telling someone how addictive it is, back in April of 05, nearly 2 years ago. If you search stilnox, there are pages of threads that come up, most all with your posts in them.
Now, you know I like you, and would never intentionally try to hurt your feelings. But, you are either in serious denial, or experiencing memory loss possibly bordering on amnesia. Regardless, yes it is addictive. Yes, it binds to your brain's benzo receptors. Yes, you should avoid it at all costs.
Have you tried rozerem/ramelton? Trazodone is an older AD that also helps with sleep. Both would be worth mentioning to your doctor.
http://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...3989&hl=stilnox
http://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...3365&hl=stilnox
http://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...4847&hl=stilnox
http://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...4847&hl=stilnoxhttp://addictionrecoveryguide.com/m...4847&hl=stilnox
ATLAS!! I am so totally shocked right now i could cry!! i dont remember writing those!!!! im serious! i dont even remember taking it in the past! what the hell is wrong with me!??!!??!?!!? ive started to shake! i think im panicking now~!!!!!! im shocked! i did not do this intentionally! please believe me......that is really concerning!!!! i dont remember?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!?!?!
ive never heard of rozerem/ramelton.....and am too upset to even think about another pill!!!! why dont i remember those posts?!?!??! why dont i remember asking about it and posting about it!??!!??!? yes ur correct, i should of known, but i dont remember those!!!!
p.s i admit lately my memory has been crappy, but i should of remembered knowing about it!?!?!!? i wouldnt of asked if i had of remembered! thats bad!
ive never heard of rozerem/ramelton.....and am too upset to even think about another pill!!!! why dont i remember those posts?!?!??! why dont i remember asking about it and posting about it!??!!??!? yes ur correct, i should of known, but i dont remember those!!!!
p.s i admit lately my memory has been crappy, but i should of remembered knowing about it!?!?!!? i wouldnt of asked if i had of remembered! thats bad!
If that's the case, you really need to talk to your doctors about this. I don't know how benzo WD's are and how they affect memory and other brain function. But that's a huge amount of info./time to forget. For your own safety, you really need to look into this. Be careful.
yes i agree, but concerned that my gp wouldnt really take it too seriously. hes like that a bit! i mean he seems to take an interest with certain things, (esp what he prescribes, and when, hes strict with that), but i know if i said i had a memory prob it would be one of those things he would prob not take too much notice of....... when i wrote those posts though one thing i do remember is that i was under my first, initial gp, he has since retired and i had to go to this other one. so obviously thats why the gp im under now didnt realise....cuz he didnt give them to me a few years ago, the initial gp must of. the gp im under now was the one that told me they were a relatively new drug,esp the cr ones and i have obviously just not remembered being on them previously!! but i must admit... apparently, i told my sister something the other night, and i have no memory of that either.....i have noticed it hasnt been good, but even now things are starting to pop up that i dont remember either saying or doing! ive had headaches...?!?!?
im actually glad that u showed me that atlas, although i feel a bit stupid for not remembering...
thankyou so much for ur concern!! xoox
im actually glad that u showed me that atlas, although i feel a bit stupid for not remembering...
thankyou so much for ur concern!! xoox
oh man! i just came back from the petrol station and the woman was really nice but she said "my husband served u last week and u brought some milk but u forgot to pay for the petrol"!!!! what the hell?!?! i remember getting the milk but dont remember getting petrol, but i am inclined to believe her as my memory is stuffed lately!! she was really nice about it but still!!! that would have to be a first for me!!!! i guess i am stressed, as i didnt mention, but my mother just found out today shes loosing the house cuz of my dad. we have been aware this might happen and i have been stressing because of it.....but does stress affect ur memory like that?!? i was also stressed at the time about xmas day and now my sisters 21st....i dont know if it will still go ahead cuz of all the upset at home.....but forgetting to pay someone?!?! thats not me!! i felt like a criminal.....ok perhaps thats a bit dramatic but i do feel bad about walking out and not paying for the petrol...and i cant really remember getting it, but i know the lady and she wouldnt lie to me. and no i dont take any medication during the day. i take my anafranil at night and whenever ive taking a sleeping pill its been at night! i dont take anything during the day!
Elvis...perhaps you are suffering from that personality disorder...you know...Cybil...can't remember the name of it right now....MPD....oh yeah..multiple personality disorder.
i am not trying to be a smart @ss....when you loose big chunks of time like that and have had the trauma that you have.....could be.
i am not trying to be a smart @ss....when you loose big chunks of time like that and have had the trauma that you have.....could be.
If yopu FORGOT to pay for the fuel, you would have known about it before now. Like the cops paying you a visit for theft.
Elvis, I know this sounds harsh, but you are full of it!!
Wendy
Elvis, I know this sounds harsh, but you are full of it!!
Wendy
Wendy, Are laws different over there than in the states because here if I left a gas station without paying for my gas the cops would have caught me within minutes. I know this because it happened to my niece by mistake she forgot to pay and the cops got her right away. She explained to the cops what had happened and everything turned out alright for her. Just curious. BTW how are the wedding plans coming along? Shantel
Shantel,
Thanks for asking. It is full steam ahead with the wedding. Everythings organized. Except for what are we gonna wear, what are we gonna eat, what happens if it rains and do we really have to have 30 kids at the party. LOL
Just your typical wedding stress!!
Hugs
Wendy
Thanks for asking. It is full steam ahead with the wedding. Everythings organized. Except for what are we gonna wear, what are we gonna eat, what happens if it rains and do we really have to have 30 kids at the party. LOL
Just your typical wedding stress!!
Hugs
Wendy
Good lord girl you need to get your butt in gear. Before you know it your wedding day will be here. Shantel
Shantel,
It's just a small wedding at home in the garden. I may just buy myself a new pair of jeans to wear. We are having a barbeque at night for family and freinds, so not really much organizing to do. Thank God !
Wendy
It's just a small wedding at home in the garden. I may just buy myself a new pair of jeans to wear. We are having a barbeque at night for family and freinds, so not really much organizing to do. Thank God !
Wendy
Elvis- Really, I have the worst problems sleeping. I still do. There have been times where I have literally gone days without sleeping. I don't take anything for it. Do yourself a favor. Throw the sleep aids out. Sleep eventually comes. Yep- not sleeping is boring, distracting, whatever. You are much better off without them. Flip on the TV and watch infomericals or read or something. You'll eventually fall asleep.
??????????? So maybe you should try to tell the doctor anyways. If you are having big memory gaps I would seek help right away. Dont you think so elvis? or maybe there is another explanation?
