Uuuuhhhhmmmmmmm Elvis???....addicts whether they are alcoholics or drug addicts come from all scocioeconomic backgrounds....I mean look at you! You are one of them! Us rather....You will find all kinds of people from all walks of life in AA/NA...
In fact my home group has some very highly educated people...I mean it...A Doctor...highly regarded...my own! A lawyer....good friend...some very wealthy people.....so what...when you are in those rooms you are no better and no worse! Last week I also spoke of a man that spent the majority of his life in prison.....honestly....I am no better....I did not take a trip all he way to the basement like he has.....yet! But I feel that that man is equal to all in those rooms including me...the Doctor and the Lawyer....it is all very humbling.
Not good to judge...your not going to hurt anyone's feelings...just another excuse I believe to not face the truth. Sorry that you feel this way but until you are ready to get honest and real you are gonna be stuck....going round and round with this problem. This desease does not discriminate...like any illness....its not only the underprivelded that are addicts.
There is no shame in seeking out help....as addicts alot of us carry around enough shame. You will get real when you are ready...just like anyone! Good luck!
I think kerry advised AA because of your fears mentioned above.
elvis
the people in NA are the nicest most helpful loving individuals you will ever meet so your excuse of being frightened is just another one of your excuses. i have been to many different NA meetings and found the same results, even in different cities, the most wonderful people you could ever meet, see elvis these people you would meet are a gift a blessing from God because there is NO ONE on the face of this earth that could help you more than an addict recovering or an addict not in recovery for that matter. they know what we feel, how it hurts and i'll bet if you did sit next to someone who used a needle as you say, that person more and likely would be the kindest person ever. look at their pain, you probably could be at a greater risk of meeting a person who is frightening to you at the grocery store or gas station for that matter.
elvis i am new at recovery, but my perception of people are VERY good. you have been given a whole wealth of the greatest advice and information ever and it is presented to you, right in front of your nose and you wont bite, why??? i perceive you as being a very intelligent college educated woman who has the capabilities to be that woman you said you once were, and i truly understand your problems as i have the same, i looked for pills for the answer to my pain, i have ocd, panic attacks, anixiety, addiction, fear of people, resentments to family who so abused me, post traumatic stress disorder from child molestation, you are not alone in your pain honey and i am trying to help myself as well as we are all trying to help you, but you refuse to take our advice. why? are you afraid? it seems as soon as someone offers some help or advice you always reply, i will take that into consideration and dont act on it.
i feel bad that your are in so much turmoil as i completely understand what that feels like, you deserve more, you are capable, all you have to do is take that first step, pray for God to guide and direct your path. or maybe is it that you are comfortable where you are at now and dont need to change??: i am frustrated for you, as i read all the posts i hope that the next post from you is gonna be a positive step in the right direction for you. pray to God to give you good self esteem so that you can love you and live the quality of life you so deserve. try, just try for today, which baby step are you gonna take for "just today" we will be waiting for your answer and are here to help. good luck julie/jewels
the people in NA are the nicest most helpful loving individuals you will ever meet so your excuse of being frightened is just another one of your excuses. i have been to many different NA meetings and found the same results, even in different cities, the most wonderful people you could ever meet, see elvis these people you would meet are a gift a blessing from God because there is NO ONE on the face of this earth that could help you more than an addict recovering or an addict not in recovery for that matter. they know what we feel, how it hurts and i'll bet if you did sit next to someone who used a needle as you say, that person more and likely would be the kindest person ever. look at their pain, you probably could be at a greater risk of meeting a person who is frightening to you at the grocery store or gas station for that matter.
elvis i am new at recovery, but my perception of people are VERY good. you have been given a whole wealth of the greatest advice and information ever and it is presented to you, right in front of your nose and you wont bite, why??? i perceive you as being a very intelligent college educated woman who has the capabilities to be that woman you said you once were, and i truly understand your problems as i have the same, i looked for pills for the answer to my pain, i have ocd, panic attacks, anixiety, addiction, fear of people, resentments to family who so abused me, post traumatic stress disorder from child molestation, you are not alone in your pain honey and i am trying to help myself as well as we are all trying to help you, but you refuse to take our advice. why? are you afraid? it seems as soon as someone offers some help or advice you always reply, i will take that into consideration and dont act on it.
i feel bad that your are in so much turmoil as i completely understand what that feels like, you deserve more, you are capable, all you have to do is take that first step, pray for God to guide and direct your path. or maybe is it that you are comfortable where you are at now and dont need to change??: i am frustrated for you, as i read all the posts i hope that the next post from you is gonna be a positive step in the right direction for you. pray to God to give you good self esteem so that you can love you and live the quality of life you so deserve. try, just try for today, which baby step are you gonna take for "just today" we will be waiting for your answer and are here to help. good luck julie/jewels
OY VEY
Elvis-
I always read your posts, I dont always respond, because honestly there are times I dont know what to say.
We have all had hard times. I feel that most all of us here are fortunate really. We have computer access, where we can seek support from others here and on other sites, some dont even have as much as a home or bed to come home to at night. You have the luxury of staying at home with family who are supporting you and you are an adult.
It is time for you to go out on your own and find your own way in life, and quit allowing others to do it for you.
You are constantly given so much support, but yet nothing ever changes.
When I looked at the links Atlas posted, It really upset me. There are so many people here who really need the support, and are being honest, and things like this distract from those people.
I believe you posted this thread "Just need a bit of Info" for the simple fact only of getting attention. It is obvious that you KNOW what Ambien is..........and you knew the responses you would get........"Elvis Please Dont take them" and so on. I will not for one second believe that you have been addicted to benzo's for as long as you have and Don't know what Ambien is, I am not buying it Elvis, not anymore.
It makes me question every single one of your posts now. I feel as if you are playing on the love and compassion that so many good people here have for those struggling, and I feel as if that is stealing it from those who truly need it..
You really need to attend some more one on one counseling and find out why you have this constant need to play the "victim" and your need for attention.
I DO NOT mean to sound harsh, that is just not me, but I really have seen so much of this, it is a broken record Elvis.
How can you expect others to continue to support you, when you havent done a thing that has been suggested to you.
It just aggravates me...........
YOU have to do this on your own, no one can do it for you.
Its time for you to do something for YOU, and stop throwing the constant pity party...............That is all I ever hear from your posts. "Poor Me"
WE could all throw a pity party for ourselves daily, as we have all had alot of heartbreak and pain in our lives.......You are not the only one.
Get a grip Elvis, and do something, Please, before its to late.
I am sorry if this post offended anyone, but I really felt the need to get it off my chest. I apologize in advance to anyone if it did.
I always read your posts, I dont always respond, because honestly there are times I dont know what to say.
We have all had hard times. I feel that most all of us here are fortunate really. We have computer access, where we can seek support from others here and on other sites, some dont even have as much as a home or bed to come home to at night. You have the luxury of staying at home with family who are supporting you and you are an adult.
It is time for you to go out on your own and find your own way in life, and quit allowing others to do it for you.
You are constantly given so much support, but yet nothing ever changes.
When I looked at the links Atlas posted, It really upset me. There are so many people here who really need the support, and are being honest, and things like this distract from those people.
I believe you posted this thread "Just need a bit of Info" for the simple fact only of getting attention. It is obvious that you KNOW what Ambien is..........and you knew the responses you would get........"Elvis Please Dont take them" and so on. I will not for one second believe that you have been addicted to benzo's for as long as you have and Don't know what Ambien is, I am not buying it Elvis, not anymore.
It makes me question every single one of your posts now. I feel as if you are playing on the love and compassion that so many good people here have for those struggling, and I feel as if that is stealing it from those who truly need it..
You really need to attend some more one on one counseling and find out why you have this constant need to play the "victim" and your need for attention.
I DO NOT mean to sound harsh, that is just not me, but I really have seen so much of this, it is a broken record Elvis.
How can you expect others to continue to support you, when you havent done a thing that has been suggested to you.
It just aggravates me...........
YOU have to do this on your own, no one can do it for you.
Its time for you to do something for YOU, and stop throwing the constant pity party...............That is all I ever hear from your posts. "Poor Me"
WE could all throw a pity party for ourselves daily, as we have all had alot of heartbreak and pain in our lives.......You are not the only one.
Get a grip Elvis, and do something, Please, before its to late.
I am sorry if this post offended anyone, but I really felt the need to get it off my chest. I apologize in advance to anyone if it did.
Elvis,
I highly advice that you stay away from ambien, it does some weird stuff to you,
we now take Melatonin 3mg. a night, which you can buy at any store in the vitamin or health fooe section, take it half hour before bed, and before youknow it it is morning and you don't feel all drugged out when you wake up.
Good luck,
Krazi/Traci
I highly advice that you stay away from ambien, it does some weird stuff to you,
we now take Melatonin 3mg. a night, which you can buy at any store in the vitamin or health fooe section, take it half hour before bed, and before youknow it it is morning and you don't feel all drugged out when you wake up.
Good luck,
Krazi/Traci
Jodi!!! Amen to that! I couldn't agree with you more....exactly what you said is exactly how I having been feeling about this situation.
Could it be that some are addicted to the ATTENTION!
I am not in anyway judging....there is no doubt some are sicker than others!!!
Could it be that some are addicted to the ATTENTION!
I am not in anyway judging....there is no doubt some are sicker than others!!!
i am not opposed to going to aa, but i have to ask would na be better like jewls said? the main reason i have never gone is that, i have always been frightenend of the people i would meet.....i dont mean to insult anyone. just people that use needles and stuff and street drugs, its sort of scares me. sorry i dont mean to offend anyone. i do realise i have a pill problem, and i always have. even if im not taking them, its always the first thought that comes to my mind when there is a prob ...."oh god, what can i take"...ive tried private counselling so many times....
That is why, I suggested to just go. Go to AA, and SUBSTITUE DRINKING FOR PILLS. I want you to go and see for yourself it isn't a bunch of theiving junkies; the rooms are filled with all walks of life. Lawyers, judges, and priests...I have met all kinds. You are a pill addict; you belong there, just like the rest of the board. You won't know that until you get over your fear and go.
I understand the phobias; every doctor I have seen has given me "anxiety disorder" and now I see my youngest with pretty severe anxiety.....it is sad. But, the good news is we can learn to cope.
Elvis, just go. Really, what have you got to lose???????
That is why, I suggested to just go. Go to AA, and SUBSTITUE DRINKING FOR PILLS. I want you to go and see for yourself it isn't a bunch of theiving junkies; the rooms are filled with all walks of life. Lawyers, judges, and priests...I have met all kinds. You are a pill addict; you belong there, just like the rest of the board. You won't know that until you get over your fear and go.
I understand the phobias; every doctor I have seen has given me "anxiety disorder" and now I see my youngest with pretty severe anxiety.....it is sad. But, the good news is we can learn to cope.
Elvis, just go. Really, what have you got to lose???????
Hi Kerry...I am sure she will "take that into consideration"
Hope you are doing well...saw some whales yesterday...out in the channel right off the beach tragic slams! ..... (magic sands)....lol...the one was calving..the most amazing sight I have ever seen in my life..without a doubt! Didn't actually see the birth...she was quite a ways out...but she was there all day so got many many glances of her and one other....wow!
I am off there right now for a few hours before I pick Kearra up from school.
Have a good one!
Kerri
Hope you are doing well...saw some whales yesterday...out in the channel right off the beach tragic slams! ..... (magic sands)....lol...the one was calving..the most amazing sight I have ever seen in my life..without a doubt! Didn't actually see the birth...she was quite a ways out...but she was there all day so got many many glances of her and one other....wow!
I am off there right now for a few hours before I pick Kearra up from school.
Have a good one!
Kerri
Elvis- everyone is right. Don''t worry about people you would meet in NA or AA for that matter. I know a lot more people with abuse problems that are straight up class A number one citizens than not. And the ones that are "not"? They know they and you have aproblem and are doing something to change that and therefore they realize you are on even ground. You will find out they are quite normal, actually. Just messed up.
The people in those rooms have been through it all..I was in detox with some hard-core revovering heroin addicts...people who were in and out of jail' etc. A woman in my roon at detox had no teeth left and was physically a mess...she was the most beautiful soul..she revealed to me that she had also been a prostitute for many years to support her habit...this detox was no luxury spa...but you know what? I learned more from the folks who wer the most down and out....they taught me volumes. What is there to be scared of? Everyone is at those meetings for one reason...they need help and they need one another...I doubt anyone would hurt you. Now I actually posted a long time ago about an incident where I WAS attacked ny an AA member...my own fault because I met him outside the group w/o knowing him that long. I did not attend meeting since the, Sounds hypocritical? Maybe...but I think you get my point. Sharonn P.S. What happened to me was such an isolated incident....GO!
OY VEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Jeff- Why the Oy Vey's?
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KEE KEE nobody is as SICK as ME.
One flew over the cuckoos nest but at least I live a life and do my best. Aim to improve daily and be a good person.
And man the negativity from this person I had to stop reading it. Gave it one more hurrah but this person is ???
Good Luck to that person.
KEE KEE where is my plane ticket??
Jeff
One flew over the cuckoos nest but at least I live a life and do my best. Aim to improve daily and be a good person.
And man the negativity from this person I had to stop reading it. Gave it one more hurrah but this person is ???
Good Luck to that person.
KEE KEE where is my plane ticket??
Jeff
JEFF
How can you pass such judgement and say something like this to someone you already KNOW has OCD and a low self esteem and self doubt issues.
Im ashamed to be associated with this board when i read such hatred, condenment and judgement.
Jeff You should be ashamed of even thinking never mind saying such a thing.
AliCap
How can you pass such judgement and say something like this to someone you already KNOW has OCD and a low self esteem and self doubt issues.
Im ashamed to be associated with this board when i read such hatred, condenment and judgement.
Jeff You should be ashamed of even thinking never mind saying such a thing.
AliCap
Jeff- Neither Kee Kee nor Kerry are forthcoming on plane tickets..they keep promosing and stuff and poof! Nothing..Kerry has a pink room too...
Where does Kerry Live? The only place I would prefer to Florida is Hawaii or Arizona -and of course Vegas-Sandiego maybe.
Otherwise I am stuck in this SWAMP
Otherwise I am stuck in this SWAMP
Ya, Florida is a swamp - I live in concrete
Ker lives on Maui BABY!!!!!
Ker lives on Maui BABY!!!!!
Danny, You're getting a little to excited about that pink room.(LOL) Shantel
