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Pain Pills
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well its the scound time ive been to a metting, this new year, at my home group, well i went today and one of the group leders, told me i could not be there, becuse i told my my so called fried,that i had a glass off wine over the holidays, so she told my group ledder, so they said they have to bring this up in there staff metting today, and i can,t come back for 2weeks, well im hurt that my friend did not come to me, we have not talked in 1week, i wonder way, my comentment was to go to as menny mettings as i can, my gradchilderns mother in on program, writ no, at the same place i go, so maby its for the best, i don,t now enymoer, i just no i can,t go throu another year like i did, my deppersion is getting woerse, i can,t seem to get out of it, it there even if i youes, so it does,ent matter, thanks for lesting, karen.
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Karen-

Was this an NA or AA meeting?

You have to be kidding me? That is horrible. I was always under the assumption all you needed was "the desire to be clean" to attend a meeting.......

I am sorry this happened to you, and am hoping someone who knows more about these meetings will chime in on this one, I am LOST.

Hugs, Hang in there Karen, Keep posting!
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I'm sorry Karen but I don't believe this story.I think there are some pieces being left out?
I've been around AA/NA for many years and I don't buy this at all.
Besides,if you really are wanting the program to work you might want to forget the drinking of wine and get honest.
I'm sure you will find many sympathetic ears on your plight here.
I'm not one of them
good day
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TIM!!!!!!!

How in the world do you know she is NOT being honest?

I am sure that not every AA or NA group is the same, and there are a few bad seeds here and there as there is everywhere in life.

It is very possible she just has a "bad" sponsor, if this is who told her this.

To totally disregard her story and basically call her a liar, Is uncalled for.

I know your feelings are strong regarding the program but surely there are some flaws in it as well?

So basically because she had the glass of wine throw in the towel??? No way.

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it is not aa our na, it is a recovory home, after going throu , you can go to mettings there 5our 6days a week, you are concerded, a alumni, after you go throu the program i have ben throu the progragm 2 times, it is based on AA, but like i said if you relasped, and tell them then you can,t come around for 2weeks, its vary deefernt then most rehabs, so what im saying is the truth tim, its funny my hubby is there writ no, at a mettingand he has been on perks, all along, but no says enything to him, karen.
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Java-
If you had been following her story you would know her sponsor is not even an addict or an alcoholic.
How many meeting have you been to?What is your experience in AA or NA?
Like I said,there will be plenty of people on here to enable her in her addiction,like yourself.
I may becoming across as an a**hole but I'm getting sick of seeing people getting killed by this disease.
I'll stay off this thread.It's not helping her or me.
If this indeed happened to her,it's wrong but forgive me if I'm highly doubtful.
Have a good day
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Karen quotes-it is not aa our na

There you go.That's why I didn't believe it.I've never been to a meeting where they asked someone not to come back for two weeks.
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Tim-

FYI- I have been to meetings, tried both NA and AA............and I have followed Karen's story every step of the way.

Thanks.
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No offense, but Karen I think you need to get with the program...I mean NA or AA. I think your recovery group is toxic.
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Tim, believing her story is hardly what I would call enabling her. Not accepting her at a meeting surely isnt helping her quit whether its n/a or any type of meeting.
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Karen-

What about one on one couseling? Not one path is right for everyone.

I found that type of counseling to be the most helpful for me........

Something to think about.

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The way I see her group is that it is based in shaming the addict..c'mon, don't we carry enough shame? What kind of support can you get in hers? Evidently a desire to quit is not enough...that's very sad.
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tim i don,t caer if you belive it our, not, i would have like nothing moer then to go to a metting today, to help get myself back on track, like i said you can not understand unless you have been were im at, this was going to help me, i don,t always understand way they do what they do, thats just how there run, if you practise you can not go back for 2weeks, wine is not my drug of choes, they no that there to, i don,t even no way i drank, just to nume the pain i guess, my oun fault, i can go to AA, if i want i just have never gone, ive always gone to the place i got my recoveory, sorry if it is confusion for you to understad, thanks karen.
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Janet, I totally agree.......

Karen this group sounds toxic to me..............I would seriously look into another type of support program.......

Making you feel worse for a relapse, or drink or anything is ridiculous...........and is in no way helping you.

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That place hasn't been too good for recovery for you, honey. Maybe it IS time to try something else like AA or NA. You don't seem to be able to get clean doing what you are doing.
Did you know that if you drank you would be banned from the meetings? Is that a rule?
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I agree with you Janet...That group that she is in sounds way to crazy..
Karen, If you want to attend meetings why don't you blow off that
group and attend a aa/na meeting..

Doug
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i have always had scound thouts about this program, its almost like brain waishing, if you don,t do as they say, you get kicked out, but most of my famile goes there, tjher has always been something in side of me that says there is somthing wrong, but were i live this is the only program around, you can go for 3months our 21days, it was run by a prist, back in the 70s its been called a cult, in the past, becuse they do run your life, after going thro, i was able to stay sober for 15years, when i ferst went throu, but this lastt few years have been realy hard, becuse off my pain, and having to take pain meds, there is not one day i don,t suffer without pain in my back, and body, so what im i suppose to do, suffer,thanks karen.
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Karen. Why not try an NA or AA meeting. I don't know what kind of meetings you were going too but it wasn't NA or AA and it didn't follow that program.

Look in your local phone book and I'm sure there's a number.

In NA or AA you will be treated with respect and not told you can't come. The only requirement for membership is to want to stop using. I know you want that.

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thanks cowgierl, you just mite be writ, maybe this is not the group for me, like i have said in the past, my hole famile goes there, so its hard to get that shame out, when your hole famile is there, back in the summer me and my son were on program to gether, that was hard, and when my 3weeks were up, they told my hubby to not take me back, i did not have a voes, no one would lesten to me, becuse my hubby was so well none there, that my group ledder, would talk to bob, and put us on no contack, it was good in some ways, but when id come home on weekends, it did not feel like home, ther were so manny times i wanted to leave but could not, i had no were to go, he was going to take everthing away from me, becuse they told him too, i don,t now what to do enymoer, other then get my shi-- together, so i don,t have to rely on brentwood, that is what its called, b-wood recvory, if i could just change that would be great, get off this pills fr ever, somtimes i think its to late, thanks karen.
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What are these meetings called? They sound like they are very controlling and horrible.

Don't go back.

Find an NA meeting today, ok? Preferably a woman's meeting.

Good luck honey.

Lisa