I wrote to this message board the other day, and I was planning on going to detox. Last night, I went to the hospital, and was admitted to the ER...and they kicked me out! They said that vicodin withdrawls weren't that bad, and that I'd be fine. I've heard taking 25+ vicodin a day can be horrible to come off of. Was I just misinformed? I feel like such a fool. On top of that, my mother-in-law decides to dump on me that I'm a horrible wife/mother b/c I have not been able to take care of my husband and daughter through all of this. I seriously feel like just downing the rest of my vicodin so all of this hurt and rejection will just go away.
Hey Jilly,
You're correct, coming off of 25 vicodin a day will be hard. From my understanding, you definitely qualify for detox. Maybe you should make some calls to other facilities?
And try not to let your mother-in-law get under your skin too much. We can't fix the past, and the reason you're committed to stopping your active addiction is so that you WILL be there for your husband and son in the future.
Hang in, and keep posting.
Love,
Matt
You're correct, coming off of 25 vicodin a day will be hard. From my understanding, you definitely qualify for detox. Maybe you should make some calls to other facilities?
And try not to let your mother-in-law get under your skin too much. We can't fix the past, and the reason you're committed to stopping your active addiction is so that you WILL be there for your husband and son in the future.
Hang in, and keep posting.
Love,
Matt
lily,
well ... first off.. in my area... the only detox they do is they give you bentyl for the bowel issues... and monitor your blood pressure .. they start you on therapy be it individual and group and do blood work and give you a physical... and let the rest take its course... I was detoxed off of 30-35 a day.. once in jail and once the last time in detox... they dont in my area give you anything for your 'nerves" or make you feel better really.... it just isnt necessary... no ....a simple detox, if you have no complicating factor in your medical history like High blood pressure or previous stroke or heart attack, wont kill you.... it lasts usually about 4 days being the worst then the physical is over.... detox also helps get you a referal to rehab... were the real work starts...
getting clean is the easy part.. staying clean takes work.... as for your mother in law... lack of education, fear and loyality to her son who is scared and hurting is what that is about.... I had the same thing happen... plus she problable is scared too.. the fear of the unknown plus not only is she uneducated if she is thinking on old stereotypes of what a drug addict is .. that is to say what some of society thinks of drug addicts... then of course she is scared and angry for 'you getting yourself into this'.... she doents yet understand this is a disease... I know it is hard to see her point of view right now.. but her reaction has little to do with you personally ... really ... it is her fears and anxietys along with her ignorance.....
I would call if you are serious about going to rehab .. call and try to get as much information as you can about you local rehab.. call also you local mental health clinic and try to get a referal from them that usually speeds things up... but in the mean time and even if you cant or wont go into inpatient you can go to AA/NA meetings and get support there... face to face... maybe if your family sees your commitment they will want to get involved and get educated... try not to take anything they say personally.. I know this hurts.. God know I know.. and they should just cause they love you .. just wrap their arm around you and say I am here but life sometimes just isnt that perfect...so until they come around you have to take the steps to take care of you .....
I hope some of this made sense.... I know you can do this.. I believe in you..
Teresa
well ... first off.. in my area... the only detox they do is they give you bentyl for the bowel issues... and monitor your blood pressure .. they start you on therapy be it individual and group and do blood work and give you a physical... and let the rest take its course... I was detoxed off of 30-35 a day.. once in jail and once the last time in detox... they dont in my area give you anything for your 'nerves" or make you feel better really.... it just isnt necessary... no ....a simple detox, if you have no complicating factor in your medical history like High blood pressure or previous stroke or heart attack, wont kill you.... it lasts usually about 4 days being the worst then the physical is over.... detox also helps get you a referal to rehab... were the real work starts...
getting clean is the easy part.. staying clean takes work.... as for your mother in law... lack of education, fear and loyality to her son who is scared and hurting is what that is about.... I had the same thing happen... plus she problable is scared too.. the fear of the unknown plus not only is she uneducated if she is thinking on old stereotypes of what a drug addict is .. that is to say what some of society thinks of drug addicts... then of course she is scared and angry for 'you getting yourself into this'.... she doents yet understand this is a disease... I know it is hard to see her point of view right now.. but her reaction has little to do with you personally ... really ... it is her fears and anxietys along with her ignorance.....
I would call if you are serious about going to rehab .. call and try to get as much information as you can about you local rehab.. call also you local mental health clinic and try to get a referal from them that usually speeds things up... but in the mean time and even if you cant or wont go into inpatient you can go to AA/NA meetings and get support there... face to face... maybe if your family sees your commitment they will want to get involved and get educated... try not to take anything they say personally.. I know this hurts.. God know I know.. and they should just cause they love you .. just wrap their arm around you and say I am here but life sometimes just isnt that perfect...so until they come around you have to take the steps to take care of you .....
I hope some of this made sense.... I know you can do this.. I believe in you..
Teresa
hi jilly,i'm sorry detox wouldn't take you but they were telling you the truth,a hydrocodone wd is not all that bad,when i first started taken pain pills that what i was on,and even though it's not enjoyable by any means it is so doable,don't let something as minor as wd stop ya from where you need to be...........vinny.
Jilly
Please don't use this as a reason to keep using.
Please don't use this as a reason to keep using.
jilly, I am sorry to hear that. I know it is different for everyone; I tried to detox on my own, and it was too painful. I found a place that did a medical detox...they give you bup or sub to help, and only for a few days. Some places don't...but try and find a place that does it medically. I had to go out of state...they detox you here in the psych ward. Yuck.
Don't give up, and your mother in law doesn't understand. She hasn't been there. This addiction is a sneaky one; after all, it is given to us by god-like figures...doctors, so it is sneaky. You just need help.
We are all rooting for you..
Kerry
Don't give up, and your mother in law doesn't understand. She hasn't been there. This addiction is a sneaky one; after all, it is given to us by god-like figures...doctors, so it is sneaky. You just need help.
We are all rooting for you..
Kerry
Jilly;
Whatever you do, don't give up. It's awful to go thru wd, but it's worse living your life consumed by these pills. You've had enough with these pills right? Controlling your every waking moment, damaging your body physically, emotionally and spiritually. It's no way to live.
Make phone calls to rehab facilities, go to meetings, do whatever it takes to get clean. One door closes and another one opens. Don't walk back into the world of these pills. It's pure hell. You've come here for a reason, and you can do this...you just have to want it more than anything else in life. It takes work but it is so worth it.
Fight the good fight Jilly - it's your time.
Jim
Whatever you do, don't give up. It's awful to go thru wd, but it's worse living your life consumed by these pills. You've had enough with these pills right? Controlling your every waking moment, damaging your body physically, emotionally and spiritually. It's no way to live.
Make phone calls to rehab facilities, go to meetings, do whatever it takes to get clean. One door closes and another one opens. Don't walk back into the world of these pills. It's pure hell. You've come here for a reason, and you can do this...you just have to want it more than anything else in life. It takes work but it is so worth it.
Fight the good fight Jilly - it's your time.
Jim
Hey... welcome to the board. Man that sucks... i went to detox for a hydro addiction. It wasnt at a hospital though... it was at a treatment center. You might call some of you local treatment centers and see if they will take you... they should. Detox can definitely be done at home but i was glad to get away so i could just focus on me for a while. Good luck and please don't give up!
Love,
Bri :)
Love,
Bri :)
Jilly...the ER was right, you won't die from coming off of that kind of dosage but you will be uncomfortable. But honey, you can do this, if it's what you want. But you DO have to want it. Like I said before, your in-laws are idiots and you can't let them rent that much space in your head. Toughen up girl. Tell her to take her advice and opinions and stuff em up her nose. You are so worth recovery. Please don't give up. Keep telling yourself that no matter what, you can do this, no matter what, you're not going to take another pill.
Did you try and call the 800 number to see if there are meetings in your area for NA?
Take care
Cowgirl
Did you try and call the 800 number to see if there are meetings in your area for NA?
Take care
Cowgirl
Jilly,
Just wanted you to know that we are all here for you.. I don't remember your story but have you tried tapering? I know it has worked for quite a few people here but not everyone can do it. You know yourself better than any of us. It sounds like you are trying hard to get into a detox or have someone to help you detox.. Do you have a doctor? If so what does he/she say? At any rate even if you were to just quit at that amount you would have probably all the flu-like symptoms you can imagine but the good news is like having the flu it won't last forever. You probably won't feel like leaving the house for a week or so but just take it one hour at a time and you'll get through it..Talk to your doctor if you have one about what OTC medication you can take during withdrawl. I took Comtrex Flu, Multi-vitamins, Immodium AD and Mortin. Drinking water, eating small meals and taking long hot bathes seem to help some to. Good luck~ Rae
Just wanted you to know that we are all here for you.. I don't remember your story but have you tried tapering? I know it has worked for quite a few people here but not everyone can do it. You know yourself better than any of us. It sounds like you are trying hard to get into a detox or have someone to help you detox.. Do you have a doctor? If so what does he/she say? At any rate even if you were to just quit at that amount you would have probably all the flu-like symptoms you can imagine but the good news is like having the flu it won't last forever. You probably won't feel like leaving the house for a week or so but just take it one hour at a time and you'll get through it..Talk to your doctor if you have one about what OTC medication you can take during withdrawl. I took Comtrex Flu, Multi-vitamins, Immodium AD and Mortin. Drinking water, eating small meals and taking long hot bathes seem to help some to. Good luck~ Rae
What I don't understand is......
Jilly is not using street drugs, she, like alot of us got addicted by over prescribing by the medical community, and now she needs help from that community to correct there Malpractice and she is denied access.
I think you should call your primary care, explain you do not feel comfortable with the course of treatment and you need her help to correct the problem.
I would do this tommorrow!
Paul
Jilly is not using street drugs, she, like alot of us got addicted by over prescribing by the medical community, and now she needs help from that community to correct there Malpractice and she is denied access.
I think you should call your primary care, explain you do not feel comfortable with the course of treatment and you need her help to correct the problem.
I would do this tommorrow!
Paul
Jilly, We are pulling for you. I am not surprised that the hospital wouldn't take you and that is sort of what I posted before. I know you are trying to beat this addiciton and that is what is important.
I am concerned about your threat to OD. If that becomes a temptation, I want you to promise us that you will call the suicide prevention hot line.
You have the will power to beat this. Call all the community services numbers in the phone book until you get someone to listen to you. I am sorry that help isn't more readily available.
Could you share will us what state you are in? I have some treatment centers bookmarked in my computer.
I am concerned about your threat to OD. If that becomes a temptation, I want you to promise us that you will call the suicide prevention hot line.
You have the will power to beat this. Call all the community services numbers in the phone book until you get someone to listen to you. I am sorry that help isn't more readily available.
Could you share will us what state you are in? I have some treatment centers bookmarked in my computer.
Hello to all. I'm in Colorado..the Denver metro area. I have tried tapering..that's what I'm doing right now. I tried to detox at home, but my family get's mad at me that I'm not 'pulling my weight around here' when I'm in bed vomiting and everything. It seems ridiculous. I'm planning on starting NA soon...possibly this week. Thanks for all of your help.
Jilly...glad to hear that you're open to all of these suggestions.. and that's all they are, is suggestions, it's up to you to put it to good use. So what if your family gets mad at you. Tell em to pound sand. Tell em that you're not a bad person trying to get good, you're a sick person trying to get well. If they feel like you're not pulling your weight, ask them how much weight do they thing you can pull if you're dead? Give them something to think about.
XXX
CG
XXX
CG
Jilly, I'm so sorry that you have no support at home. Can you try an outpatient suboxone detox? That is what I did 2 weeks ago, and it has not been bad at all. All you need to do is go to www.suboxone.com and find a Dr. in your area. Make the appointment yourself, or if they require a referral, demand one from your primary care Dr. Every clinic is different, but here's how it worked for me: The first visit was $208. That included 1 hour with a social worker, some face to face time with the Dr. who immediatly wrote the prescription, blood testing and urinalysis. The suboxone itself costs about $3 per pill. The pills are 2mg. each. They will probably start you on 4-12 mg. per day. So the cost per day will be about $6-18. You can taper off of that dose as quickly as you need to. Tapering of of sub. will be much easier than tapering off of vicodin. Take the least amount of sub. possible to get you out of w/d. This may seem like alot of money, but the vicodin has to be expensive. If you have insurance, it will probably pay for most of this cost. Call the number on the back of your insurance card to find out if they pay. If they don't, please try to get the money and go so the suboxone Dr. I promise you will be glad you did. Then, please go to NA or AA. They are FREE! There you will find the much needed support you are not getting at home. Take care, you can do this, you are worth it. Atlas
I looked into an outpatient suboxone clinic today, and they wanted close to $2,000 for the total treatment. I just can't afford that. I have checked into all of my resources....I will hopefully be starting NA next week...does anyone know if you have to be 'sober' first to attend? I just dont' know what to do at this point. I'm getting desperate.
NO, you don't have to be sober or clean to attend, all they ask is that you have a DESIRE to get clean and sober. You are also asked not to share if you are under the influence and someone will help you directly after the meeting. You will be given lots of phone numbers of people who care and you can call them anytime.
It's a little scary, the unknown, but I think you'll be pleasantly surprized. What have you got to lose?
XXX
It's a little scary, the unknown, but I think you'll be pleasantly surprized. What have you got to lose?
XXX
Ok...if anyone is still listening...this is what I've decided. I have a friend who says I'm more than welcome to detox at her house. It's truly a blessing. So, I know you have told me what OTC supplies I need...any other advice on supplies I will need for the other withdrawl symptoms to make it as comfortable as possible? What kind of withdrawls did you have when you detoxed? I have to do this...it's the first step right? I'm never going to make it if I don't get off of these drugs...now. So, for those of you who have been through this, what all will I need? Thanks so much!
Jilly..I've been through my share of withdrawals..thankfully the last one was over a year ago.
Immodium
Potassium
Motrin
Lots of hot showers and baths (as hot as you can stand it and as many times a day as you want)
Light exercise, get out of the house and walk.
Stay away from benzos, no xanax or valium, Kava Kava or Melatonin works great for sleeping.
Be prepared to not get much sleep for awhile, but it won't last forever, eventually your body will sleep.
Eat good food. Stay away from sugar and white flours. A daily supplement if you can keep it down.
That was my basic menu for about 10 days.
You can do this girl. Between being at your friends house and going to NA meetings, you'll get through this.
cowgirl
Immodium
Potassium
Motrin
Lots of hot showers and baths (as hot as you can stand it and as many times a day as you want)
Light exercise, get out of the house and walk.
Stay away from benzos, no xanax or valium, Kava Kava or Melatonin works great for sleeping.
Be prepared to not get much sleep for awhile, but it won't last forever, eventually your body will sleep.
Eat good food. Stay away from sugar and white flours. A daily supplement if you can keep it down.
That was my basic menu for about 10 days.
You can do this girl. Between being at your friends house and going to NA meetings, you'll get through this.
cowgirl
Thanks so much, cowgirl!! You're terrific. I'm making a list. Thanks. :)
