Paula, I hope you went to ER for yourself. You could have a stroke, with the symptoms you are having. Oh, my heart aches for you! Your son is so fortunate he has the Pastor as an option. If he still does not go that route, then there is nothing else you, yourself can do anymore. I feel also that the girl at the restaurant was a spiritual intervention to help your son, but once again, he is choosing the wrong path. Please, please take care of your own serious health problems immediately.
yes paula - it is heart breaking. I do remember the feeling - like vise around your heart.
There is something about energy healing and meditation. I cant explain it but believe it can be true. we are all connected by energy. relax, breath deep, send good thoughts
try to make your prayers be a transmission of energy, good energy and will.
Zach's higher power IS trying to help him by sending an angel - the girl who called the pastor.
he did go to a place where someone could help him.
he just needs to get away from the crack long enough to accept help.
Bless the Pastor....
There is something about energy healing and meditation. I cant explain it but believe it can be true. we are all connected by energy. relax, breath deep, send good thoughts
try to make your prayers be a transmission of energy, good energy and will.
Zach's higher power IS trying to help him by sending an angel - the girl who called the pastor.
he did go to a place where someone could help him.
he just needs to get away from the crack long enough to accept help.
Bless the Pastor....
Thank you everyone
I let Zach stay at hospital all day. He called me about 5 times and said Im in the hospital.
I said yes I know son.. You have already told me. There is nothing I can do. It's time for you to do something. God has watched over him. I told Zach if he wants help to contact the pastor.
Well.. At the end of the day he asked if there was anything he could do. He ended up getting to my brothers house which is about 10 minutes from the pastors. My mom fed him and washed his clothes. He has lost everything except the clothes on his back. He's sleeping now (my mom just told me). He hasn't slept in days.
The pastor will be there at 6:30 am to pick him up. We will see if he is serious.
Please say a prayer
Night friends
I let Zach stay at hospital all day. He called me about 5 times and said Im in the hospital.
I said yes I know son.. You have already told me. There is nothing I can do. It's time for you to do something. God has watched over him. I told Zach if he wants help to contact the pastor.
Well.. At the end of the day he asked if there was anything he could do. He ended up getting to my brothers house which is about 10 minutes from the pastors. My mom fed him and washed his clothes. He has lost everything except the clothes on his back. He's sleeping now (my mom just told me). He hasn't slept in days.
The pastor will be there at 6:30 am to pick him up. We will see if he is serious.
Please say a prayer
Night friends
paula
I am proud of you! You needed to get yourself off the hook and it is working.
your son needed to look to others for answers and he has. allowing your mom and brother to step into the picture is good - good for all of you. it is humbling.
I agree w Amma.... take care of your health.
if Z goes to Christen Home and then leaves - still tell him he can only go back there.
even though my son is renting a room, and not at the half way house, my husband spoke to someone at the halfway house a few weeks ago when we thought son was using... the man at the half way house said he can always go back to half way house
give yourself a break and rest. read about meditation or do yoga - it is relaxing.
go to a spa and have treatments - massage, etc -- once a month or so.....
do things for you to restore your well being
I hope Z is OK - will he need to detox?
I am proud of you! You needed to get yourself off the hook and it is working.
your son needed to look to others for answers and he has. allowing your mom and brother to step into the picture is good - good for all of you. it is humbling.
I agree w Amma.... take care of your health.
if Z goes to Christen Home and then leaves - still tell him he can only go back there.
even though my son is renting a room, and not at the half way house, my husband spoke to someone at the halfway house a few weeks ago when we thought son was using... the man at the half way house said he can always go back to half way house
give yourself a break and rest. read about meditation or do yoga - it is relaxing.
go to a spa and have treatments - massage, etc -- once a month or so.....
do things for you to restore your well being
I hope Z is OK - will he need to detox?
I am happy things are working out for your son. But I can't stress enough that you need to see a doctor. Please find time for yourself and go to the er tomorrow.
I am seeing a specialist tomorrow at 11:30
I pray for my son but I will believe it when I see it.
Night
I pray for my son but I will believe it when I see it.
Night
Paula, thinking and praying for you and Zach. Yes, and God bless the Pastor. So glad your son got to where your Mom and brother are.
Barb
Barb
Paula-
I know I'm late to this thread. But, first and foremost, I am worried about you!!! Bleeding? High blood pressure? Not good. Please take care of yourself and your health. Find some way to de-stress and relax. Manicures? Massages? Long walks? Reading? Yoga? Shopping? Right now, I'd advise smoking a joint and having a shot if that would calm your nerves. Smile.
Second, I know the pain and torment you are in as you watch Zach making one wrong decision after another, especially when you gave him a wonderful option. I begged my Jill to pick a rehab within 6 hours of home. I even gave her a list of places to choose from. P
And, when she selected South Florida again, I cringed. I can hear her still tell me that this is HER journey. Well...this is zach's journey. He has to want to get clean and sober for him to benefit by any sober living program. You can't make him want sobriety.
Know that you are being an excellent mom. Continue to be strong! Continue to pray for him. And take care of you. Sending a huge hug your way.
Praying for you,
Lynn
Xoxo
I know I'm late to this thread. But, first and foremost, I am worried about you!!! Bleeding? High blood pressure? Not good. Please take care of yourself and your health. Find some way to de-stress and relax. Manicures? Massages? Long walks? Reading? Yoga? Shopping? Right now, I'd advise smoking a joint and having a shot if that would calm your nerves. Smile.
Second, I know the pain and torment you are in as you watch Zach making one wrong decision after another, especially when you gave him a wonderful option. I begged my Jill to pick a rehab within 6 hours of home. I even gave her a list of places to choose from. P
And, when she selected South Florida again, I cringed. I can hear her still tell me that this is HER journey. Well...this is zach's journey. He has to want to get clean and sober for him to benefit by any sober living program. You can't make him want sobriety.
Know that you are being an excellent mom. Continue to be strong! Continue to pray for him. And take care of you. Sending a huge hug your way.
Praying for you,
Lynn
Xoxo
Paula:
Thinking of you.
Bob
Thinking of you.
Bob
Paula,
Please post about your doctor appointment & if you hear from Zach.
Thinking of you, praying for you both...
love & God bless you,
Dee
Please post about your doctor appointment & if you hear from Zach.
Thinking of you, praying for you both...
love & God bless you,
Dee
Paula --you are on my mind today and I am praying all is progressing and Zach is going to Christian rehab. Please let us know and especially how you are!!
I am sure we( your forum family) are all concerned and waiting to hear---
(((HUGS)))
I am sure we( your forum family) are all concerned and waiting to hear---
(((HUGS)))
Thinking of you Paula and sending positive vibes
Con, are you okay?? Haven't seen any fairly recent posts, at least in this category. Or maybe I just missed them. Hope it's just that you are taking a needed break from us.
Con, are you okay?? Haven't seen any fairly recent posts, at least in this category. Or maybe I just missed them. Hope it's just that you are taking a needed break from us.
Dee, Duchess, Nat, papa and all
Thank you all for the messages
It's been tough
The pastor picked up Zach to go to the ODM for help. They wanted him to detox so they went yo several hospitals. They said his vitals was fine no reason to detox. Just needed a safe place for couple days and then he would be accepted at the mission house. My mom and brother is letting Zach stay with them until Thursday morning and the pastor will take him back.
The pastor and his wife said they asked Zach if they could pray for him and he said yes. They asked him if Knew Christ and would accept him into his heart. He raised his hands and said yes and repeated the sinners prayer. My mom told me he walked in the house with a smile and has not said one cuss word which is unbelievable.
I pray this is real and not any kind of manipulation. Miracles happen everyday and I pray this is our miracle. Zach opened it up with Pastor Vic and talked about how he hurt when his dad passed away. The pastor said he would like to be his Godly father if he would allow. Tears flowing.
I also saw the specialist and they ran a camera down my nose and cauterized where I've been bleeding. He said my high blood pressure was not helping so I immediately went to another Dr. I'm now on blood pressure medication so hopefully I will start feeling better.
Thank you for all the prayers
Hugs
Paula
Thank you all for the messages
It's been tough
The pastor picked up Zach to go to the ODM for help. They wanted him to detox so they went yo several hospitals. They said his vitals was fine no reason to detox. Just needed a safe place for couple days and then he would be accepted at the mission house. My mom and brother is letting Zach stay with them until Thursday morning and the pastor will take him back.
The pastor and his wife said they asked Zach if they could pray for him and he said yes. They asked him if Knew Christ and would accept him into his heart. He raised his hands and said yes and repeated the sinners prayer. My mom told me he walked in the house with a smile and has not said one cuss word which is unbelievable.
I pray this is real and not any kind of manipulation. Miracles happen everyday and I pray this is our miracle. Zach opened it up with Pastor Vic and talked about how he hurt when his dad passed away. The pastor said he would like to be his Godly father if he would allow. Tears flowing.
I also saw the specialist and they ran a camera down my nose and cauterized where I've been bleeding. He said my high blood pressure was not helping so I immediately went to another Dr. I'm now on blood pressure medication so hopefully I will start feeling better.
Thank you for all the prayers
Hugs
Paula
RELIEF. Paula - rest whenever you can. there will still be more to come. this is a start. and it is getting the 'monkey' off your back. things fell into place nicely.
good thing you did not have to pay for detox. that is a lesson we learned too. we paid a few grand for 7 days detox. not again. my son can go to a hospital or someone's couch if it is needed again.
It sounds like the Pastor knows what he is doing. I am so greatful there are people doing this for others in need. Zack is lucky you found the Pastor. I understand your hesitancy - today seems too good to be true..... we can only see what tomorrow brings. hold on to the prayers and keep Zach in your heart.
I hope your fianc is also feeling relief and understands how well you have done steering the ship.
Nice Job!
sending prayers and love and a few tears too.
good thing you did not have to pay for detox. that is a lesson we learned too. we paid a few grand for 7 days detox. not again. my son can go to a hospital or someone's couch if it is needed again.
It sounds like the Pastor knows what he is doing. I am so greatful there are people doing this for others in need. Zack is lucky you found the Pastor. I understand your hesitancy - today seems too good to be true..... we can only see what tomorrow brings. hold on to the prayers and keep Zach in your heart.
I hope your fianc is also feeling relief and understands how well you have done steering the ship.
Nice Job!
sending prayers and love and a few tears too.
Paula, I am so relieved for you! Teared up over the Pastor and his wife asking Zach about accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. One day at a time Paula but it sounds so hopeful. Glad you got medical attention also. Whew.
Peace and love
Barb
Peace and love
Barb
Praise God Paula!!!! I'm happy that your son has been saved. Cleansed by the Blood! I'm praying for him and his walk with God. You see. . .ALL things are possible through Christ. You almost have me doing a Snoopy praise dance up in here!!!!!
And I'm happy that the doctor's report was "good." Although we've never met face-to-face, you all have a special place in my heart. I was really worried. I'm glad that it was Nothing too serious. High blood pressure is not fun. . .I've got it. . .but with medication (and a few diet modifications) you can manage it and live a long and happy life!!
Now. . .please take a break. . .for your health and well being. Your body is telling you that it has had enough worry and stress. Perhaps you and your fiance can get away for a weekend and de-compress. . .focus on you guys. Relax. Reconnect. Smile. Laugh. Talk. Clearly. God' is working this out.
You've done a fantastic job Paula. The rest is in your son's and God's hands.
Still praying for you & your son,
Lynn
xoxo
And I'm happy that the doctor's report was "good." Although we've never met face-to-face, you all have a special place in my heart. I was really worried. I'm glad that it was Nothing too serious. High blood pressure is not fun. . .I've got it. . .but with medication (and a few diet modifications) you can manage it and live a long and happy life!!
Now. . .please take a break. . .for your health and well being. Your body is telling you that it has had enough worry and stress. Perhaps you and your fiance can get away for a weekend and de-compress. . .focus on you guys. Relax. Reconnect. Smile. Laugh. Talk. Clearly. God' is working this out.
You've done a fantastic job Paula. The rest is in your son's and God's hands.
Still praying for you & your son,
Lynn
xoxo
Oh Paula,
I'm glad to hear that your son is in safe hands. I'll be keeping him and you in my thoughts and prayers that he continues his journey towards sobriety. I'm glad you got your health concerns addressed as well. Stress can have such a strong effect on our health. I hope you are able to start to focus on you.
J
I'm glad to hear that your son is in safe hands. I'll be keeping him and you in my thoughts and prayers that he continues his journey towards sobriety. I'm glad you got your health concerns addressed as well. Stress can have such a strong effect on our health. I hope you are able to start to focus on you.
J
Paula,
Wonderful news that it was an easy fixed and you have to take care of yourself for you.
Zach is in the best place he can choose to accept god and fight the addiction or not. It's up to him, his faith and strength.
Keep us updated :)
My son is still missing it's been 30 days again, so we will see what brings next month.
xx
God Bless
Sue
Wonderful news that it was an easy fixed and you have to take care of yourself for you.
Zach is in the best place he can choose to accept god and fight the addiction or not. It's up to him, his faith and strength.
Keep us updated :)
My son is still missing it's been 30 days again, so we will see what brings next month.
xx
God Bless
Sue
Sue,J,Lynn,Barb, Ny ..., everyone
Thank you for the messages
It's been a roller coaster. I almost left my fianc but after a long talk we decided to go to counseling. I have lost myself in my sons addiction. I exist !!
But no more. I'm taking my life back and my happiness.
I'm working on my health and my man.
Zach stayed with my mom and brother for a few days to rest and detox more. Y'all would be so proud of me Zach called me last night and said "I'm not sure I want to go to Open Door Mission" and I Said sorry but this was the agreement...nothing else. So if you don't go then pack your stuff and leave because no more money is being paid to rehabs and sober living. If you are serious then this is it. He said whatever and hung up. A few minutes later the pastor showed up to make sure Zach would be ready at 5:00 am (today). After some questions,,,Zach said yes I want it. Thank you God!!! He was accepted in this morning and will be there 7 months.
I'm praying he follows the rules and will let God in.
Keep on praying please.
Hugs
PAULA
Thank you for the messages
It's been a roller coaster. I almost left my fianc but after a long talk we decided to go to counseling. I have lost myself in my sons addiction. I exist !!
But no more. I'm taking my life back and my happiness.
I'm working on my health and my man.
Zach stayed with my mom and brother for a few days to rest and detox more. Y'all would be so proud of me Zach called me last night and said "I'm not sure I want to go to Open Door Mission" and I Said sorry but this was the agreement...nothing else. So if you don't go then pack your stuff and leave because no more money is being paid to rehabs and sober living. If you are serious then this is it. He said whatever and hung up. A few minutes later the pastor showed up to make sure Zach would be ready at 5:00 am (today). After some questions,,,Zach said yes I want it. Thank you God!!! He was accepted in this morning and will be there 7 months.
I'm praying he follows the rules and will let God in.
Keep on praying please.
Hugs
PAULA
Give yourself a hug! and rest as much as possible. It will take you a while to decompress and get all of the fear and anxiety our of your body.
Remember this statement when Zach calls..... He is pressing your buttons to see which ones still work....
My son has been in recovery (with minor relapses that we did not enable) since January. It still pulls at my heart when he says "this isn't working, I don't want to be here anymore, I think I want to come home, I don't make enough money to live, to eat, I don't think I can do this, I have no transportation, etc.....
It hurts but I tell him: It will be the same at home, no car, no transportation, no friends, hard to get job, sitting around our house - he would be bored in a week.
My son is better where he is. at least to walk to work, etc..... he has to learn the basics - food, shelter, money management.
we learned it, many others work and live well without transportation. and we all do it without drugs...... he has to learn it to....
Paula - given the time Z has lived his life style - he will need a long time (years?) before he is successful to live on his own without drugs. Every month clean is good. Continue to tell him the Mission is the best and only solution. after he leaves there he will most likely be struggling. keep being his cheerleader that he can do it, many others do and he has to. He does not have to be alone, you are all supportive, but you can not give money if he is not clean or does not stay clean. he has to feel that responsibility of his actions. getting a paycheck and using it for his own good to support himself.
It will still be hard, but different.
Hold his feet to the fire. (another good quote I've heard)
my son is 26. I think if he is self supporting and happy by age 30, I will consider this a success.
For his sake I hope so.
Remember this statement when Zach calls..... He is pressing your buttons to see which ones still work....
My son has been in recovery (with minor relapses that we did not enable) since January. It still pulls at my heart when he says "this isn't working, I don't want to be here anymore, I think I want to come home, I don't make enough money to live, to eat, I don't think I can do this, I have no transportation, etc.....
It hurts but I tell him: It will be the same at home, no car, no transportation, no friends, hard to get job, sitting around our house - he would be bored in a week.
My son is better where he is. at least to walk to work, etc..... he has to learn the basics - food, shelter, money management.
we learned it, many others work and live well without transportation. and we all do it without drugs...... he has to learn it to....
Paula - given the time Z has lived his life style - he will need a long time (years?) before he is successful to live on his own without drugs. Every month clean is good. Continue to tell him the Mission is the best and only solution. after he leaves there he will most likely be struggling. keep being his cheerleader that he can do it, many others do and he has to. He does not have to be alone, you are all supportive, but you can not give money if he is not clean or does not stay clean. he has to feel that responsibility of his actions. getting a paycheck and using it for his own good to support himself.
It will still be hard, but different.
Hold his feet to the fire. (another good quote I've heard)
my son is 26. I think if he is self supporting and happy by age 30, I will consider this a success.
For his sake I hope so.
